• New Mac OSX Mavericks released for Mac users for free
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[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57608727/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-will-be-free/"]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57608727/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-will-be-free/[/URL] [QUOTE]Apple announced Tuesday its new desktop operating system OS X Mavericks will be released for free. Apple's senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi took the stage at an Apple event in San Francisco to make the announcement and give a live demonstration of the OS in action. Federighi took the opportunity to reiterate some of OS X Mavericks' features, including Apple Maps, iBooks, tags and memory compression. The new operating system features finder tabs, tags and multiple displays. Finder now has tabs for easier multitasking. Anything can be tagged anywhere in OSX and be found through a search in Finder. Multiple displays makes using more than one screen more intuitive by having the dock appear in the active screen. A feature called App Nap directs power to apps that need it and Timer Coalescing monitors the CPU's activity. Apple is deepening the integration between its desktop and mobile software. OS X Mavericks is also getting iCloud Keychain for storing passwords; Calendar update with continuous scrolling; and iBooks. Notifications will send push notifications, iMessages and IMs to the desktop. Maps is also coming to OS X Mavericks with features like street maps 3D flyover, POI search, info cards and turn-by-turn directions.[/QUOTE] It can be downloaded on the Mac App Store.
some people i know have been flipping their shit over this because it's free, like it is some sort of crazy innovation. i think it's cool that they finally have a free update, but is it really that big of a deal?
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42610398]some people i know have been flipping their shit over this because it's free, like it is some sort of crazy innovation. i think it's cool that they finally have a free update, but is it really that big of a deal?[/QUOTE] Considering how many neat features it has (especially the ones focusing on power consumption), it's a very nice surprise.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42610398]some people i know have been flipping their shit over this because it's free, like it is some sort of crazy innovation. i think it's cool that they finally have a free update, but is it really that big of a deal?[/QUOTE] OSX updates are like smaller, more frequent Windows updates (Vista -> 7 -> 8) so it's just kind of neat they're releasing it free
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42610518]Considering how many neat features it has (especially the ones focusing on power consumption), it's a very nice surprise.[/QUOTE] I find it kinda funny that Microsoft did it first, though. Same with iwork being free on iOS devices - MS did it with RT, Apple does it with iOS. Not complaining, though.
Tags are totally the unsung hero of this update. I've been wanting system level file tagging/searching for so long (as in, integrated with all the save file dialogs and all that). There are just some things that (IMO) don't lend themselves to being stored hierarchically.
Apple makes so much money by forcing you to use their OS with their hardware that it doesn't have to be bought though. Microsoft doesn't monopolize their side of the spectrum with forced OS on hardware, mostly because they don't make their own hardware. The PC world is pretty much set between two different business models. I'd also consider a massive part of the price of buying a mac computer to be the fact it comes with the OS and updates. I mean in all honesty, it's cool that Apple is doing free updates, but they really belong to be free anyway because you're grid locked into their system by simply owning their product.
[QUOTE=draugur;42610582]Apple makes so much money by forcing you to use their OS with their hardware that it doesn't have to be bought though. Microsoft doesn't monopolize their side of the spectrum with forced OS on hardware, mostly because they don't make their own hardware. The PC world is pretty much set between two different business models. I'd also consider a massive part of the price of buying a mac computer to be the fact it comes with the OS and updates. I mean in all honesty, it's cool that Apple is doing free updates, but they really belong to be free anyway because you're grid locked into their system by simply owning their product.[/QUOTE] Isn't that what boot camp is for? I don't know I've only ever used a Mac maybe once or twice.
[QUOTE=DeandreT;42610802]Isn't that what boot camp is for? I don't know I've only ever used a Mac maybe once or twice.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.apple.com/uk/support/bootcamp/"][QUOTE=Apple.com][IMG]http://puu.sh/4WNRO/c55d03dd2b.png[/IMG][/QUOTE][/URL]
but that's not a cat. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] I suggested calling it OS X Mittens or OS X Ginger if they ran out of cool cats
[QUOTE=Cabbage;42611132]but that's not a cat. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] I suggested calling it OS X Mittens or OS X Ginger if they ran out of cool cats[/QUOTE] They wanted a different name instead of it being a cat iirc
They should have named it after fish. Apple presents: OSX 10.9 Blowfish
I really have no time for Mac OSX. I don't use/own a Mac and other ways of getting it running are just time consuming and it's a driver nightmare. I do admit though, it is a beautiful looking OS.
I'd get this in a heartbeat if one of my work apps didn't require me to stay under snow leopard.
[QUOTE=benbb;42611328]I really have no time for Mac OSX. I don't use/own a Mac and other ways of getting it running are just time consuming and it's a driver nightmare. I do admit though, it is a beautiful looking OS.[/QUOTE] Its definitely an OS tailored toward their hardware. Building a Hackintosh is a nightmare if you don't have just the right hardware. My MacBook Pro is pretty nice in that regard and the touchpad is pretty top notch. I won't claim OSX is flawless though. Its just as flawed as any other OS, just in different ways. I'm installing Mavericks right now as a matter of fact though.
i was thinking of updating my macbook to this. but is there any bugs or issues on this new OS X?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;42611785]How can I do an AMD Hackintosh with OS X Mavericks? I feel like getting back on the Hackintosh scene and I have an old spare computer that I can try it on[/QUOTE] If I'm not mistaken, last time I tried it on an AMD system, you have to get a patched installer specifically for that OS X version for use with AMD systems. Not sure if anything has changed since then so you might have to wait until that is released. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=robotman5;42611823]i was thinking of updating my macbook to this. but is there any bugs or issues on this new OS X?[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I'll find out for you. :v:
Since the video they have showed on the conference includes how great it is on school and how i see a lot of people use a Mac as their laptop. Is Mac OS X really better for school work and stuff? Not sure how to explain, but since these things are so expensive they must have some reason to get a Macbook instead of a laptop.
Our college teachers strongly encourage linux and really strongly encourage osx since it's great for font rendering in design courses, is UNIX based so we can all run unix commands in web dev, has really good video editing tools and has the advantage that now everyone brings the same chargers they can share in class.
[QUOTE=01271;42611908]Our college teachers strongly encourage linux and really strongly encourage osx since it's great for font rendering in design courses, is UNIX based so we can all run unix commands in web dev, has really good video editing tools and has the advantage that now everyone brings the same chargers they can share in class.[/QUOTE] Do programs in general run better on Mac OS X? Don't know if thats true but i heard that Windows in general is about twice as heavier to run then OS X, making the programs run better under its hardware that it has.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;42611859]Since the video they have showed on the conference includes how great it is on school and how i see a lot of people use a Mac as their laptop. Is Mac OS X really better for school work and stuff? Not sure how to explain, but since these things are so expensive they must have some reason to get a Macbook instead of a laptop.[/QUOTE] Most people buy macs for their battery life and weight, but a lot of laptops are gaining a similar level of weight and thinness. Battery life depends on company and product, configuration, and screen. But if you get a mac you might have to buy a copy of Microsoft office or get a 3rd party program, and you probably will have to buy an adapator to connect a tv/projector. I personally wouldn't get a mac, because I'm too use to Windows, I simply hate the fact that I have to use an adaptor to connect it to a tv, I do this all the time, and I don't really mind the weight/battery life seeing as I don't use it in places without outlets.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;42611859]Since the video they have showed on the conference includes how great it is on school and how i see a lot of people use a Mac as their laptop. Is Mac OS X really better for school work and stuff? Not sure how to explain, but since these things are so expensive they must have some reason to get a Macbook instead of a laptop.[/QUOTE] I haven't really noticed how its better for school work, at least in my particular case. Most of the software I use either is multiplatform or has a close substitute. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Aznsniper911;42611968]Most people buy macs for their battery life and weight, but a lot of laptops are gaining a similar level of weight and thinness. Battery life depends on company and product, configuration, and screen. But if you get a mac you might have to buy a copy of Microsoft office or get a 3rd party program, and you probably will have to buy an adapator to connect a tv/projector. I personally wouldn't get a mac, because I'm too use to Windows, I simply hate the fact that I have to use an adaptor to connect it to a tv, I do this all the time, and I don't really mind the weight/battery life seeing as I don't use it in places without outlets.[/QUOTE] Yeah the adapter thing is sort of annoying. But that's why they are so thin in the first place, because they don't need to put a VGA/HDMI port in. MDP/Thunderbolt ports are tiny in comparison. On the upside, the adapters are really cheap if you buy 3rd party ones.
[QUOTE=Demache;42611986]I haven't really noticed how its better for school work, at least in my particular case. Most of the software I use either is multiplatform or has a close substitute. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] Yeah the adapter thing is sort of annoying. But that's why they are so thin in the first place, because they don't need to put a VGA/HDMI port in. MDP/Thunderbolt ports are tiny in comparison. On the upside, the adapters are really cheap if you buy 3rd party ones.[/QUOTE] Reminds me that i once bought a 3rd party HDMI cable and that my iPhone kept stopping the video with a message that it is a unsupported cable/hardware. Luckily a Cydia tweak removed that. Saved me 50 euros from a official Apple cable. :v:
[QUOTE=Demache;42611986] Yeah the adapter thing is sort of annoying. But that's why they are so thin in the first place, because they don't need to put a VGA/HDMI port in. MDP/Thunderbolt ports are tiny in comparison. On the upside, the adapters are really cheap if you buy 3rd party ones.[/QUOTE] It can fit on a pretty thin laptop too, [img_thumb]http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzA1LzBlL1NvbnlWYWlvUHJvLmJhYTMyLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/625a7616/de0/Sony-Vaio-Pro-11-10-of-11.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MacBook-Air-2013-13-inch-rear-Apple-logo.jpg[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;42612138]It can fit on a pretty thin laptop too, [img_thumb]http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzA1LzBlL1NvbnlWYWlvUHJvLmJhYTMyLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/625a7616/de0/Sony-Vaio-Pro-11-10-of-11.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MacBook-Air-2013-13-inch-rear-Apple-logo.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Yeah HDMI is pretty thin as well. I meant to only say VGA, but for some reason HDMI came out. On the upside though, Thunderbolt ports are just mini Display Ports so it can literally be anything including VGA. You also have to remember, Apple is really pushing Thunderbolt hard. If I'm not mistaken, in the keynote I noticed they added another Thunderbolt port to the new MacBook Pro and left out ethernet and Firewire. Although it also looks like they added an onboard HDMI port as well.
[QUOTE=draugur;42610582]Apple makes so much money by forcing you to use their OS with their hardware that it doesn't have to be bought though. Microsoft doesn't monopolize their side of the spectrum with forced OS on hardware, mostly because they don't make their own hardware. The PC world is pretty much set between two different business models. I'd also consider a massive part of the price of buying a mac computer to be the fact it comes with the OS and updates. I mean in all honesty, it's cool that Apple is doing free updates, but they really belong to be free anyway because you're grid locked into their system by simply owning their product.[/QUOTE] Did you know that the reason why Apple emphasizes on not calling Macs PC's isn't only just to take advantage of people's ignorance of the term, but also because they genuinely aren't selling a modular device but something more along the lines of a self contained "device" such as a console, (optimizing for only so much hardware, knowing what all the hardware there is in all machines running OSX, etc) I mean just because they also offer laptops like PC's do, and x86 cpu's just like PC's do, doesn't mean they are targeting the same audience, because then by that logic the PS4 and Xbox One are targeting desktop PC users. The PC enthusiast ideology cannot be applied to Macs just like they can't be applied to consoles or smartphones (but they sure do try considering Android spec wars exist). [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=darth-veger;42611947]Do programs in general run better on Mac OS X? Don't know if thats true but i heard that Windows in general is about twice as heavier to run then OS X, making the programs run better under its hardware that it has.[/QUOTE] remember OSX's relationship to the machines it runs on is similar to the relationship of iOS to iPhone or a console's OS to it's hardware, it was tailored to it and only it, so it's not like Windows or most Linux Distros which are one size fits all OS's that don't have special optimizations for that specific, unique PC. Also the bigger reason to get a Macbook imo is the physical aspects. They have the undisputed best trackpads (crucial aspect of a laptop don't you think?) [I]very[/I] thin and light (another thing crucial to a portable computer) made of aluminum (no cheap plastics, feels very sturdy, very well designed) and since the OS is tailored to the hardware, often the best battery life you can get. Also the Windows laptop industry is fucking depressing
[QUOTE=The Baconator;42612573] remember OSX's relationship to the machines it runs on is similar to the relationship of iOS to iPhone or a console's OS to it's hardware, it was tailored to it and only it, so it's not like Windows or most Linux Distros which are one size fits all OS's that don't have special optimizations for that specific, unique PC. [/QUOTE] Adding to this, the UI on their mobile devices really feel like you are actually interacting with the hardware on a strange level, mainly because they feel really snappy. I have always used Android phones for control, but I had an iTouch and used other people iPhones. [QUOTE=The Baconator;42612573] Also the bigger reason to get a Macbook imo is the physical aspects. They have the undisputed best trackpads (crucial aspect of a laptop don't you think?) [I]very[/I] thin and light (another thing crucial to a portable computer) made of aluminum (no cheap plastics, feels very sturdy, very well designed) and since the OS is tailored to the hardware, often the best battery life you can get. Also the Windows laptop industry is fucking depressing[/QUOTE] Always been a windows user, but I want one so bad. The track pad is a dream with those gestures. I say all hail motherfucking Apple for actualy challenging Microsoft and encouraging them to take a second look into usability etc. Also nobody has beaten the iPod imo.
Imagine Ubuntu charging for 13.10 Same surprise level.
[QUOTE=Demache;42611690]Its definitely an OS tailored toward their hardware. Building a Hackintosh is a nightmare if you don't have just the right hardware. My MacBook Pro is pretty nice in that regard and the touchpad is pretty top notch. I won't claim OSX is flawless though. Its just as flawed as any other OS, just in different ways. I'm installing Mavericks right now as a matter of fact though.[/QUOTE] I've actually had it working pretty well. I buy most of my hardware with cross-platform operability in mind and I've got graphics, Wifi and other stuff working on it. My sound card (Xonar DG) doesn't seem to have any drivers for OSX but I can use my crappy Intel HDA onboard chipset with it. I'm alright with Windows and Linux to be honest though.
The only thing I like that apple had created was the old iPods. Not the new ones with the touchscreen, but the old ones that had huge storage and had nice battery life. Now there's noone really making things like that anymore.
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