Florida governor says he won't comply with The Affordable Care Act - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. [B]The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. [/B] “Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we’re not going to implement exchanges,” Scott’s spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday. Wright stressed that the governor would work to make sure the law is repealed. Scott told Fox News the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it’s unclear how he arrived at that figure. Scott said the state will not expand the Medicaid program in order to lower the number of uninsured residents, nor will Florida set up a state-run health exchange, a marketplace where people who need insurance policies could shop for them. “We care about having a health care safety net for the vulnerable Floridians, but this is an expansion that just doesn’t make any sense,” he told Fox host Greta Van Susteren on Friday. Scott has gone back and forth on the issue after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Congress cannot withhold federal Medicaid funding from states that opt out of a requirement in the overhaul to expand coverage to those just above the poverty line. On the day of the ruling Scott was cautious about the expansion, saying he wanted to read the ruling first. Then during an interview Friday morning on a Jacksonville radio station, Scott said it was unlikely he would go along with the expansion because of the potential cost to the state. But the governor told the Tampa Bay Times later in the day that he was still evaluating the ruling and would come up with a plan within a few weeks. Scott was vague when asked in the Fox News interview whether he’s been in talks with other Republican governors about how to respond going forward. “Everyone I’ve spoken to is doing the same thing,” Scott said, but when pressed for specific names, he only referenced what the governors of Louisiana, Texas and Wisconsin have said in the past. His spokesman told AP he could not confirm what conversations Scott has had with other governors on the issue. Scott, the former CEO of a hospital chain, has been a vocal critic of the health care overhaul from the start. He made his first foray into politics by forming a group called Conservatives for Patients’ Rights that ran television ads criticizing the proposal before it was adopted by Congress. Scott has also complained about the growing cost of Medicaid, the $21 billion safety net program that primarily aids the poor but also picks up nursing home bills for senior citizens. The governor backed a push by the Republican-controlled Legislature to shift Medicaid patients into managed care programs, a move that is still awaiting federal approval. Scott has rejected federal money in the past, most notably $2.4 billion for high speed rail. His administration has also said no to some money attached to the Affordable Care Act. But Scott has said yes to money associated with the federal stimulus program and he has changed some of the positions he advocated during his run for governor. Scott also must weigh the politics of saying no to Medicaid because of tight budgets, while it is likely he will continue to push for substantial tax cuts between now and his re-election campaign in 2014. According to Census data released last year, Florida had the nation’s third-highest rate of residents without health insurance during the past three years. President Obama’s health care law called for states in 2014 to expand Medicaid eligibility to those making up to 133 percent of the poverty level, or $29,326 for a family of four. While estimates vary, the Florida Agency for Health Care Administration has concluded that as many as 1.95 million more people would join Medicaid and other state-subsidized health insurance programs over the next five years. Most of the cost, running into the billions, would be absorbed by the federal government. The Medicaid expansion would not cost the state anything until 2017 — although AHCA estimates that changes to other state-subsidized programs would require state money starting in 2014. AHCA estimates that the overall cost to the state would be $2.4 billion between 2013 and 2018 with the federal government picking up nearly $26 billion. But other groups analyzing the potential changes contend that state officials have “hyper-inflated” the potential costs because they assume too many people will enroll. The ultimate choice, however, won’t be Scott’s alone. It will also be decided by the Legislature.[/QUOTE] [url]http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/30/scott-we-wont-comply-with-medicaid-expansion/[/url]

"Oh yeah sure guys, I'll follow it if it passes" "IT PASSED?" "I'm not gonna abide by it"

flip flopping dumbass

Isn't this illegal to do?

Here we go... This will be interesting.

[QUOTE=The Castro;36586829]flip flopping dumbass[/QUOTE] not only is he a flip flopping idiot, he also looks fucking terrifying [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-st5nvFUeHEA/TZFXbpDak9I/AAAAAAAAAlY/zbLmlx1ZJVc/s1600/rick-scott.jpg[/img] I swear the only reason he got into office is because mostly old senile farts live here

Florida is basically saying fuck you to everything passed in the last couple years.

The Fox version of this is hilarious. It ignores the hypocritical flip-flopping and just pushes the hell out of their agenda. [url]http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/07/01/gov-scott-florida-will-not-implement-insurance-exchanges-or-expand-medicare[/url] [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] Actually, this whole thing has an air of the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis]Nullification Crisis[/url] around it. It's amazing how much bullshit politicians get away with these days.

[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;36586928]The Fox version of this is hilarious. It ignores the hypocritical flip-flopping and just pushes the hell out of their agenda. [url]http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/07/01/gov-scott-florida-will-not-implement-insurance-exchanges-or-expand-medicare[/url] [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] Actually, this whole thing has an air of the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis]Nullification Crisis[/url] around it. It's amazing how much bullshit politicians get away with these days.[/QUOTE] Let me know when another senator gets beaten with a cane.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;36586971]Let me know when another senator gets beaten with a cane.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I suppose people don't get away with more bullshit now, just different bullshit.

I hope my state follows. I, along with millions of others, can't afford mandatory healthcare.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36587717]I hope my state follows. I, along with millions of others, can't afford mandatory healthcare.[/QUOTE] But you can pay for doctor visits, prescription drugs, and surgical operations out of pocket, right? Maybe you should read [URL=http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2010/March/22/consumers-guide-health-reform.aspx]this[/URL] before jumping to conclusions.

It can be enforced by the government,right?

[QUOTE=znk666;36587844]It can be enforced by the government,right?[/QUOTE] No, the states do not have to comply with obamacare, if they choose not too they will just receive less money for medicare.

[QUOTE=rinoaff33;36587839]But you can pay for doctor visits and surgical operations out of pocket, right? Maybe you should read [URL=http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2010/March/22/consumers-guide-health-reform.aspx]this[/URL] before jumping to conclusions.[/QUOTE] Even if it's something ridiculously low (and more importantly easy to multiply) like $100 a year or something, Last time I had to go to the hospital was 1998 and it cost me $1200. I'd rather be paying out of pocket if that's how it's gonna go. If I have to go to the hospital tomorrow and it costs me $1200, I'll still be $200 better off in the long run.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36587887]Even if it's something ridiculously low (and more importantly easy to multiply) like $100 a year or something, Last time I had to go to the hospital was 1998 and it cost me $1200. I'd rather be paying out of pocket if that's how it's gonna go. If I have to go to the hospital tomorrow and it costs me $1200, I'll still be $200 better off in the long run.[/QUOTE] That's assuming it'll cost $1200 the next time you need to go. And that's a big IF.

[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;36586844]not only is he a flip flopping idiot, he also looks like a fucking terrifying [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-st5nvFUeHEA/TZFXbpDak9I/AAAAAAAAAlY/zbLmlx1ZJVc/s1600/rick-scott.jpg[/img] I swear the only reason he got into office is because mostly old senile farts live here[/QUOTE] He personally came to all of our houses and intimidated us into voting. I'd really prefer to live in another state.

Hey look, a state thinking it has the right to nullify Federal Acts. Gee Whiz that always ended well before, didn't it?

[QUOTE=waxrock;36587902]That's assuming it'll cost $1200 the next time you need to go. And that's a big IF.[/QUOTE]Its likely to cost many, many times that. Also, you don't have to pay the mandate if you actually can't afford healthcare. But you already know this, Butt, this stuff was covered in the other thread about the healthcare reform. So don't act like you aren't aware.

[QUOTE=Rebi;36587903]He personally came to all of our houses and intimidated us into voting. [/QUOTE] "Vote for me, or I'll kill your family and pets! Vote Rick Scott, NOW!"

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36588507]Its likely to cost many, many times that. Also, you don't have to pay the mandate if you actually can't afford healthcare. But you already know this, Butt, this stuff was covered in the other thread about the healthcare reform. So don't act like you aren't aware.[/QUOTE] I stopped reading that crap because you're all a bunch of mongos [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - verynicelady))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36588542]I stopped reading that crap because you're all a bunch of mongos[/QUOTE]Ohh good, so instead of inform yourself of the matter, you're just going to continue blindly opposing something that you actually have no real knowledge of?

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36588542]I stopped reading that crap because you're all a bunch of mongos[/QUOTE] Man you sure showed them who the shit poster is.

In less surprising news, Scott Walker has also said he won't implement the law. [url]http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/walker-sticks-to-his-opposition-of-health-care-law-others/article_7e1a834c-c12f-11e1-b156-001a4bcf887a.html[/url]

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36588542]I stopped reading that crap because you're all a bunch of mongos[/QUOTE] All right then Mayor McCreedy, you don't get any mushrooms. Have fun dying of radiation poisoning.

Sounds like someone is trying to make a VP bid to Romney

What's with Florida's stupidity lately?

Ok and when another governor comes in they will start participating big deal.

This kinda guy This kinda guy right here this kinda political governor guy I hope he pours salt down his urethra and masturbates

[QUOTE=DireAvenger;36589505][B]I hope he pours salt down his urethra and masturbates[/B][/QUOTE] ouch