'Make America Great Again' Marchers, Anti-Trump Protesters Clash in Center City - Polidicks

[quote]Pro-Trump marchers and Anti-Trump protesters clashed in the streets of Philadelphia Saturday. The Pennsylvania 'MAGA' March planned for Saturday morning was met by Anti-Trump protesters in Old City and Center City. Both groups demonstrated near and around Independence Hall and City Hall. The Pro-Trump marchers first gathered at Independence National Historical Park on 5th and Market streets at 11:30 a.m. where they held a rally at People's Plaza. The group then marched on Market Street toward City Hall. Andrew Shecktor, a candidate for the U.S. Senate (PA, 2018) served as the keynote speaker for the rally. During the march and rally, the demonstrators were met by a group of Anti-Trump protesters who used the hashtag #DisruptMAGA on social media. The pro-Trump group also planned on marching on Benjamin Franklin Parkway towards Eakins Oval in front of the Philadelphia Museum of Art but were stopped by police who wanted to avoid a clash between the two groups. Both marches tied up traffic in Center City. Streets were closed near City Hall but later reopened. Two people, a man and a teen boy, were cited for disorderly conduct.[/quote] More videos and interviews in the link. [url]http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Make-America-Great-Again-Marchers-Anti-Trump-Protesters-March-in-Center-City-417092223.html[/url] [media]https://twitter.com/soit_goes/status/845685097105936386[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/845707817130561537[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/jpegjoshua/status/845703864099782660[/media] Still developing.

[QUOTE]The Pennsylvania 'MAGA' March planned for Saturday morning was met by Anti-Trump protesters in Old City and Center City.[/QUOTE] What even happens at a MAGA march

Anyone care to explain why right is fighting themselves?

Fucking antifa are hurting the cause

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;52011787]Anyone care to explain why right is fighting themselves?[/QUOTE] AntiFa tend to have communistic tendencies as far as I know?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52011784]What even happens at a MAGA march[/QUOTE] It's like one of those redacted SCP articles. Knowing in itself would be too much to bear, all you can know is that you have to prevent it at all costs

Why does the guy who won need marches?

This "anti-fascist" and Fascist protests are getting out of hand. All this does is serve to make actual Fascists seem like less of threat than they are.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52011811]They form a circlejerk.[sp]Much like any rally for an incumbent president, blue or red.[/sp][/QUOTE]

Look at the Antifa wearing masks to hide themselves. They know that they are up to no good. Absolutely pathetic. They should fuck off anyways because, by being scumbags, they only ever serve to legitimise whatever it is that they're protesting. Which is everything, because they care more about breaking shit and punching people than actual policies.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;52011826]AntiFa tend to have communistic tendencies as far as I know?[/QUOTE] AntiFa tends to have retarded tendencies.

[QUOTE=BF;52011971]Look at the Antifa wearing masks to hide themselves. They know that they are up to no good. Absolutely pathetic. They should fuck off anyways because, by being scumbags, they only ever serve to legitimise whatever it is that they're protesting. Which is everything, because they care more about breaking shit and punching people than actual policies.[/QUOTE] It's almost as if they use this as an excuse to be shitty.

[QUOTE=artDecor;52011927]Why does the guy who won need marches?[/QUOTE] more validation, I assume There's a part of me that feels these rallies happen in direct response to rallies like "Women's March" and "Not My President Day"

[QUOTE=BF;52011971]Look at the Antifa wearing masks to hide themselves. They know that they are up to no good. Absolutely pathetic. They should fuck off anyways because, by being scumbags, they only ever serve to legitimise whatever it is that they're protesting. Which is everything, because they care more about breaking shit and punching people than actual policies.[/QUOTE] Antifa and their supporters are fucking worthless imo. Rarely have anything productive to do and latch on to hideously dangerous ideologies like communism/marxism/maoism and bullshit like that.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52011998]Antifa and their supporters are fucking worthless imo. Rarely have anything productive to do and latch on to hideously dangerous ideologies like communism/marxism/maoism and bullshit like that.[/QUOTE] There are similar groups in Australia such as the Socialist Alliance and Socialist Alternative. Their members don't really care about socialism all that much, they only care about protesting whichever flavour of the week it is. Shit apparently you can even buy some of them as a 'rent-a-mob'. But yeah they're just like the Antifa and Black Bloc; just with different labels.

Between the MAGA spouting idiots and car burning antifa America is looking more and more like a joke.

Idiots who act violently for no reason will always be idiots, but it seems some people in this thread have a problem with the general idea of counter-protesting. Freedom of speech includes the freedom to contest opinions. Edit: Actually nevermind. But I do hate seeing anti-fascism becoming a stereotype of masked idiots throwing molotovs. Fascist and radical polulist ideas are dangerous and needs to be countered.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52011998]Antifa and their supporters are fucking worthless imo. Rarely have anything productive to do and latch on to hideously dangerous ideologies like communism/marxism/maoism and bullshit like that.[/QUOTE] It's a far cry from what the term "Anti-Fascist" used to mean. [img]https://www.greenleft.org.au/sites/default/files/styles/glw_large_image/public/widerimages/Jose%20Almudever%20by%20Denis%20rogatyuk.jpg?itok=V1OzpXL2[/img] [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/35/d9/7b35d9cec35dbe03908ce83303c5926a.jpg[/img] [img]https://ejercitorepublicano.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/1941.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52011784]What even happens at a MAGA march[/QUOTE] cognitive dissonance

[QUOTE=BF;52011971]Look at the Antifa wearing masks to hide themselves. They know that they are up to no good. Absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE] Not that I agree with their actions in the slightest but you could at least not latch on to an excuse to hate them like this rather than the fact they're doing stupid shit. It's pretty obvious that he reason for hiding their faces is that they know they're breaking the law (a lot different than just being up to no good and more likely to be an instance of believing that the law is in the way of the right thing) and/or would open themselves and their families up to reactions, potentially violent ones, from people who disagree with them.

[QUOTE=Mr. Sarcastic;52012181]It's a far cry from what the term "Anti-Fascist" used to mean. [img]https://www.greenleft.org.au/sites/default/files/styles/glw_large_image/public/widerimages/Jose%20Almudever%20by%20Denis%20rogatyuk.jpg?itok=V1OzpXL2[/img] [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/35/d9/7b35d9cec35dbe03908ce83303c5926a.jpg[/img] [img]https://ejercitorepublicano.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/1941.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Thats because those men and women were literally fighting an actual anti-fascist government. It's completely apples-to-oranges. Antifa are just rowdy edgelords who want to fight fascism when theres no fascism to fight.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52012210]Thats because those men and women were literally fighting an actual anti-fascist government. It's completely apples-to-oranges. Antifa are just rowdy edgelords who want to fight fascism when theres no fascism to fight.[/QUOTE] I dunno, I could make the argument that the Trump admin certainly has a lot of tendencies in common with fascists and the Nazis. But pro-trumpists at these events are just idiots, not fascists.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;52011826]AntiFa tend to have communistic tendencies as far as I know?[/QUOTE] fascistic*. They tend to have fascistic tendencies.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52012198]Not that I agree with their actions in the slightest but you could at least not latch on to an excuse to hate them like this rather than the fact they're doing stupid shit. It's pretty obvious that he reason for hiding their faces is that they know they're breaking the law (a lot different than just being up to no good and more likely to be an instance of believing that the law is in the way of the right thing) and/or would open themselves and their families up to reactions, potentially violent ones, from people who disagree with them.[/QUOTE] Maybe if they weren't violent, then they wouldn't have to cover their faces, because then they would suffer no repercussions. But no, that makes too much sense for the Antifa.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;52012265]fascistic*. They tend to have fascistic tendencies.[/QUOTE] Violent and/or authoritarian is not equivalent to fascistic.

[QUOTE=BF;52012266]Maybe if they weren't violent, then they wouldn't have to cover their faces, because then they would suffer no repercussions. But no, that makes too much sense for the Antifa.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree with you there. But that doesn't invalidate the point I was making. There are plenty of completely valid reasons to hate Antifa. You don't need to make convenient strawman arguments making them out to be unambiguously malicious and evil in order to hate them or their actions.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52012267]Violent and/or authoritarian is not equivalent to fascistic.[/QUOTE] Lol right, but trump building a wall is? Why make excuses for these people? They nearly killed a man in Berkeley.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;52012279]Lol right, but trump building a wall is? Why make excuses for these people? They nearly killed a man in Berkeley.[/QUOTE] I agree for both sides. People just throw around the term fascism because it sounds bad. It's equivalent to comparing someone to Hitler.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;52012279]Lol right, but trump building a wall is? Why make excuses for these people? They nearly killed a man in Berkeley.[/QUOTE] While Fascists may be violent and are certainly authoritarian, not all violent people are authoritarian or fascists.

Ha, mcgrath618 was floating around in Philly today. I bet he'll check in.