ISIS is executing their own Sharia judges who don't toe to the party line.
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[URL]https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/17435-isis-executes-one-of-its-sharia-judges[/URL]
[QUOTE]Social media activists who support the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have said on Twitter that the organisation recently executed one of its Sharia judges on the grounds that the latter had "excessive takfiri tendencies".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]According to a number of Salafi Jihadi online forums, ISIS detained Sheikh Abu Jaafar Al-Hattab and a number of other Sharia judges last September, the month in which Judge Abu Omar Al-Kuwaiti was mysteriously executed. Some linked Al-Kuwaiti's execution to his proclamation of Baghdadi as a kafir ("infidel").
Al-Hattab, a former member of the Sharia committee of the Ansar Sharia group in Tunisia, was known for his strictness in such matters. He had previously released an audio message in which he declared his stance on takfir and said that the excuse of ignorance should not exempt people from being accused.
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[QUOTE]Observers noticed that ISIS supporters failed to share the tweet regarding Al-Hattab's execution, whereas for the first times supporters of the Hazimi trend have gained prominence.
"Repent, Baghdadi, and purify your tawhid before you die, the day when neither wealth nor sons will avail, except those who meet Allah with a pure heart," read a tweet by one of Al-Hazimi's supporters.
Another Hazimi tweet, Fahdawi Dayghami, wrote on Twitter: "Why did the [Islamic] State kill Sheikh Abu Jaafar Al-Hattab and his brothers? You ask students to come to you then you kill them? What Khilafah [sic] is this? We will not forget his blood and the blood of his brothers."[/QUOTE]
Infighting go!
They've made so many enemies, even ISIS doesn't like ISIS.
What is a regular Muslim supposed to do when even Sharia judges are powerless against ISIS.
[QUOTE=Buck.;47302434]What is a regular Muslim supposed to do when even Sharia judges are powerless against ISIS.[/QUOTE]
Run.
Maybe the collapse of the DAESH isn't from outside forces destroying them, but rather civil war? That could be possible.
Power clique issues are well expected from a group known for killing anyone they don't like in general.
With no social structure, it was sort of inevitable. The whole thing should collapse in a few years, but what's left behind will either be infinitely more terrifying or much more restrained.
[QUOTE=woolio1;47302645]With no social structure, it was sort of inevitable. The whole thing should collapse in a few years, but what's left behind will either be infinitely more terrifying or much more restrained.[/QUOTE]
Tell me if I'm going insane and reaching too far, but the worst case scenario in my mind is that the Iraqi government goes apeshit and engages in all-out war with the Kurdish forces and tries to start a new extermination campaign due to seeing the demands relating to Kurdistan as being a threat to their own power. They invite in former IS members, arm them, and effectively absorb the competent remnants of the group. Iraq War #Whatever ends up happening.
Again, tell me if my fears are misplaced.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;47302674]Tell me if I'm going insane and reaching to far, but the worst case scenario in my mind is that the Iraqi government goes apeshit and engages in all-out war with the Kurdish forces and tries to start a new extermination campaign due to seeing the demands relating to Kurdistan as being a threat to their own power. They invite in former IS members, arm them, and effectively absorb the competent remnants of the group. Iraq War #Whatever ends up happening.
Again, tell me if my fears are misplaced.[/QUOTE]
Uhhh...what?
Why would the Iraqi government do that??? They're not allied with ISIS...
[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;47302912]Uhhh...what?
Why would the Iraqi government do that??? They're not allied with ISIS...[/QUOTE]
I don't really know the politics that well, but I know that the fight against IS has given the Kurds a renewed desire to be recognized as a country. Kurdistan is a region spanning Iraq, Turkey, and Iran. The capital, Erbil, is in northern Iraq. The Kurds have been one of the main and most effective forces fighting against IS while Iraq has floundered. I personally feel they've earned that right. Others who currently govern the lands within the region may not be so hospitable to the idea.
That's the fear for me. That this turns into a thing where the Iraqi government falls back on being bastards and decides they need to quash a "Kurdish insurrection".
Again, anyone with more proper knowledge on the subject, please educate me.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;47302950]I don't really know the politics that well, but I know that the fight against IS has given the Kurds a renewed desire to be recognized as a country. Kurdistan is a region spanning Iraq, Turkey, and Iran. The capital, Erbil, is in northern Iraq. The Kurds have been one of the main and most effective forces fighting against IS while Iraq has floundered. I personally feel they've earned that right. Others who currently govern the lands within the region may not be so hospitable to the idea.
That's the fear for me. That this turns into a thing where the Iraqi government falls back on being bastards and decides they need to quash a "Kurdish insurrection".
Again, anyone with more proper knowledge on the subject, please educate me.[/QUOTE]
I think you play too many videogames
No country just up and decides to quash an insurrection that doesn't exist, especially if the supposed "insurrectionists" are literally their biggest ally on the ground in fighting ISIS
[QUOTE=woolio1;47302645]With no social structure, it was sort of inevitable. The whole thing should collapse in a few years, but what's left behind will either be infinitely more terrifying or much more restrained.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/18/world/meast/isis-syria-iraq-hierarchy/]Except ISIS does have a government structure.[/url]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47303578][url=http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/18/world/meast/isis-syria-iraq-hierarchy/]Except ISIS does have a government structure.[/url][/QUOTE]
It's not exactly well managed though. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/the-islamic-state-is-failing-at-being-a-state/2014/12/24/bfbf8962-8092-11e4-b936-f3afab0155a7_story.html[/url]
The CNN covers how it ought to be working, but on the ground it's much different. There is a lack of basic government services, infrastructure is decaying, there are widespread and chronic shortages of even basic staples and medical supplies, schools are closed, doctors are not treating the sick, and diseases are spreading.
Additionally, their big plans for introducing a new currency and passport have yet to materialize.
ISIS barely even qualifies as a state, and it lacks a proper government. It's been a jihadist organisation for years, and acts like one. States are a whole different thing. ISIS is failing the test, and ultimately it will lose the war. Already it's struggling to hold their current territory in Iraq, and may very well lose control of it.
What? This doesn't even make any sense.
ISIS is SUNNI. Why the fuck would ISIS appoint Sharia Judges in the first god damn place. Makes no sense.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47305376]What? This doesn't even make any sense.
ISIS is SUNNI. Why the fuck would ISIS appoint Sharia Judges in the first god damn place. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
I think you're confusing Sharia with Shia.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47305376]What? This doesn't even make any sense.
ISIS is SUNNI. Why the fuck would ISIS appoint Sharia Judges in the first god damn place. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Sharia = Jihad-belief, applies to both Sunni & Shia
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