• Wendy’s to install ordering kiosks in 1,000 stores this year
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[QUOTE]Last year, the kiosks were coming. It didn't take them long to get here. [B]Wendy's plans to install self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 of its stores — about 16 percent of its locations — by the end of the year.[/B] The Dublin-based burger giant started offering kiosks last year, and demand for the technology has been high from both customers and franchise owners. "There is a huge amount of pull from (franchisees) in order to get them," David Trimm, Wendy's chief information officer, said last week during the company's investors' day. [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170221/wendys-to-install-ordering-kiosks-in-1000-stores-this-year[/URL] Automation and the impending job losses for work like this is going to be an interesting way to bring up the idea of Universal Basic Income in the future.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;51885372]Automation and the impending job losses for work like this is going to be an interesting way to bring up the idea of Universal Basic Income in the future.[/QUOTE] Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.
What's great about automation is you can practically automate any job, including the job of automating something to begin with. This is going to be interesting because you may have company's in the future ran by a single person with massive work forces of robots and AI.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Gosh, you're so right. That there Hitler and his buddy Stalin were really emblematic of socialist ideals and not at all fascist puffed up fuckbags who used the word 'socialist' as a buzzword to cover up their totalitarian doctrines.
Because losing jobs when people need jobs is a good idea, right?
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] lmao, good job replying to the article, 4/5
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Don't know if you noticed but we don't live in the past. Times are changing in ways never predicted and will accelerate in that direction.
[QUOTE=KingofBeast;51885407]Because losing jobs when people need jobs is a good idea, right?[/QUOTE] Capitalism strives to maximize profits. Increased automation is a direct consequence of that. That's why I've always believed that strict Capitalism is unsustainable.
They already have kiosks like these in A&Ws and McD's here. Absolutely prefer them. Lots faster and they don't fuck up my order. [QUOTE=KingofBeast;51885407]Because losing jobs when people need jobs is a good idea, right?[/QUOTE] You can't stop the march of technology. Cashier jobs are easily replaced by self-order and self-checkout places. They were never going to stick around forever.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Do you know what socialism actually means?
I hope to some day see mcdonalds vending machines that will build my patty and boil my fries.
[QUOTE=Ithon;51885450]I hope to some day see mcdonalds vending machines that will build my patty and boil my fries.[/QUOTE] There are similar vending machines already just they specialize in a single task like pizza making.
[QUOTE=Ithon;51885450]I hope to some day see mcdonalds vending machines that will build my patty and boil my fries.[/QUOTE] That'll be good for the Western obesity crisis!
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Excited to hear your brilliant alternative. We will become a post scarcity society eventually. You can't educate everyone to be a skilled engineer, not everyone has the brains to design/program robots.
[QUOTE=KingofBeast;51885407]Because losing jobs when people need jobs is a good idea, right?[/QUOTE] Fast food work can only supplement a salary. Nobody can live successfully on a minimum wage as it stands, and widespread automation is a total inevitability. Technology will advance whether society is ready for it or not. All levels of society will eventually have to realize that unskilled or uneducated work will no longer be able to support anybody in the near future. What we need more than anything is to place absolute priority upon education and reeducation for adults so that society is prepared to shift to an exclusive information economy going forward.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] complete socialism has never really worked but basic income has been surprisingly successful so far
Skilled labor will be largely replaced within our lifetime. Machine learning and image recognition have insane potential, I think people underestimate what we have ahead of us. Look at (IBM) Watson's ability to practice medicine. Willing to be we'll see surgery robots eventually.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Without socialism you wouldn't have drinkable water or a safe workplace
How good are these things, in terms of customization of an order?
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Universal Basic Income = Stalin and Mao Alright mate
I remember a while back a guy made a hilariously over complex burger at McDonalds with, iirc, dozens of patties and he just kept mashing "more special sauce" for about a minute [editline]27th February 2017[/editline] Feth, merge
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51885514]Skilled labor will be largely replaced within our lifetime. Machine learning and image recognition have insane potential, I think people underestimate what we have ahead of us. Look at (IBM) Watson's ability to practice medicine. Willing to be we'll see surgery robots eventually.[/QUOTE] On that front, I work at a serious games company and one of our clients is a very big medical organization. We had to make training simulations recently to help surgeons get used to [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Vinci_Surgical_System"]this thing[/URL]. When we were watching reference videos, we were blown away by how simply amazing these machines were when it came to precision. Right now, a surgeon controls them via console but I can't imagine something like a medical bed like what was seen in [I]Passengers[/I] or [I]Prometheus[/I] is far off, atleast for low-level surgical interventions.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] There has never been a social order or government truly representative of actual socialism, or even communism for that matter. Please educate yourself! We have only experienced various totalitarian spin-offs of mangled communist ideals when it comes to past governments.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;51885505]complete socialism has never really worked but basic income has been surprisingly successful so far[/QUOTE] In order to pay for it you're going to have to over tax the rich and because the fact that they are rich they can and will simply leave the country shifting the burden to the already strained and shrinking middle class. Expenses would like go up due to the added money in peoples pockets who already have a job. People would flock to places that have it for the free money even more then they already do. The economic divide would only increase at that point. I would even go so far as to say it's only working so well in the small samples it's been tried in it because how corporatized everything has because and how small of a blip it is on anyone's radar. Capitalism and socialism don't mix. The amount of regulatory action it would take to MAYBE make it work on a large scale would be insane.
Man, later on in life explaining to kids why Papa Stroheim lost his job to Windows 15 will be rough.
[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;51885558]There has never been a social order or government truly representative of actual socialism, or even communism for that matter. Please educate yourself! We have only experienced various totalitarian spin-offs of mangled communist ideals when it comes to past governments.[/QUOTE] Do you really think such programs wouldn't turn bad as they have in history? The amount of money that could and probably would be defrauded would be insane.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885569]In order to pay for it you're going to have to over tax the rich and because the fact that they are rich they can and will simply leave the country shifting the burden to the already strained and shrinking middle class. Expenses would like go up due to the added money in peoples pockets who already have a job. People would flock to places that have it for the free money even more then they already do. The economic divide would only increase at that point. I would even go so far as to say it's only working so well in the small samples it's been tried in it because how corporatized everything has because and how small of a blip it is on anyone's radar. Capitalism and socialism don't mix. The amount of regulatory action it would take to MAYBE make it work on a large scale would be insane.[/QUOTE] Well whats your solution then? The direct effect of increased automation is that wealth stops circulating due to workers no longer having jobs. The only options are to limit automation, which would go against strict capitalism, or to have a basic income. [editline]27th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885584]Do you really think such programs wouldn't turn bad as they have in history? The amount of money that could and probably would be defrauded would be insane.[/QUOTE] Universal basic income is being tested in several countries today. I also wouldn't really call it "socialism".
That's a shame, once I went to Wendy's and ordered a Baconator meal and Chili, and the cashier offered to have the chili replace the fries with no extra charge. I doubt a computer would do that.
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51885383]Because socialism has worked so well throughout history.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it has. It has greatly benefited the US and UK economies throughout the 20th century.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51885659]That's a shame, once I went to Wendy's and ordered a Baconator meal and Chili, and the cashier offered to have the chili replace the fries with no extra charge. I doubt a computer would do that.[/QUOTE] I wonder if it's even possible to code in random complimentaries to a computer. "My, your screen sure looks bright today!" --10% DISCOUNT ACTIVATED (WENDYBOT OVERRIDE) :v:
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