Hello, in this thread I will be giving information about various WW2 weapons. I will only be doing the 4 main forces. These 4 forces will be; the United States Army, the Red Army, the Wehrmacht, and the British Commonwealth. This thread will cover the most common weapons found on the battlefields of the Eastern Front and Western Front, from pistols to recoilless rifles. The first force I'm going to put together will be the Wechrmacht's. Please enjoy the thread.
[b]The Wehrmacht[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Balkenkreuz.svg/200px-Balkenkreuz.svg.png[/img]
The main fighting force of German in WW2, the Wehrmacht consisted of three main forces, the Heer (Army), the Kriegsmarine (Navy) and the Luftwaffe (Air force). The Wehrmacht had around sixteen to eighteen million soldiers.
The typical look for a Heer soldier consisted of a Stahlhelm.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Stahlhelm.jpg[/img]
German "Jack boot" boots.
[img]http://www.epicmilitaria.com/shopimages/products/thumbnails/jackboot2.jpg[/img]
German War Fitigues consisted in many different variations, the most common one was the M36.
[img]http://www.1944militaria.com/m36_tunic_h3.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.1944militaria.com/m36_tunic_h2.jpg[/img]
The shade of color the tunic's were in was Feldgrau or in english "Field grey" [img] http://www.carparts-koeln.de/content/images/store/schleifmittel/RAL7009.small.jpg[/img]
[b]Now for the weapons.[/b]
First off, the Walther P38.
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The Walther P38 was a 9 mm pistol that was developed by Walther as the service pistol of the Wehrmacht at the beginning of World War II. It was intended to replace the costly Luger P08, the production of which was scheduled to end in 1942.
[b]Design of the P38[/b]
The P38 was the first locked-breech pistol to use a double-action trigger. The shooter could load a round into the chamber, use the de-cocking lever to safely lower the hammer without firing the round, and carry the weapon loaded with the hammer down. A pull of the trigger, with the hammer down, fired the first shot and the operation of the pistol ejected the fired round and reloaded a fresh round into the chamber, all features found in many modern day handguns.
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The barrel-locking mechanism operates by use of a wedge-shaped locking block underneath the breech. When the pistol is fired both the barrel and slide recoil for a short distance together, where the locking block drives down, disengaging the slide and arresting further rearward movement of the barrel. The slide however continues its rearward movement on the frame, ejecting the spent case and cocking the hammer before reaching the end of travel. Two return springs located on either side of the frame and below the slide, having been compressed by the slide's rearward movement, drive the slide forward, stripping a new round from the magazine, driving it into the breech and, in the process, re-engages the barrel; ending its return travel with a fresh round chambered, hammer cocked and ready to repeat the process.
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[b]Specifications[/b]
Weight 800 g (1 lb 12 oz)
Length 216 mm (8.5 in)
Barrel length 125 mm (4.9 in)
Cartridge 9x19mm Parabellum
Action Short recoil, locked breech
Muzzle velocity 365 m/s (1,200 ft/s)
Effective range Sights set for 25 m (82 ft)
Maximum range 50 m (164 ft) effective range
Feed system 8-round detachable single-stack magazine
Sights Rear notch and front blade post
Now for the second pistol in the lineup.
[b]The Luger P08[/b]
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[b][i]The most notable pistol of WW2.[/b][/i]
The Parabellum-Pistole (Pistol Parabellum), popularly (but incorrectly) known as the Luger is a toggle locked, recoil operated, semi-automatic pistol. The design was patented by Georg Luger in 1898 and produced by German arms manufacturer Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM) starting in 1900. The Luger was made popular by its use by Germany during World War I and World War II. Though the Luger pistol was first introduced in 7.65x22mm Parabellum, it is notable for being the pistol for which the 9x19mm Parabellum cartridge was developed.
[b]Design[/b]
The Luger pistol was manufactured to exacting standards and has a long service life. The Luger uses a toggle-lock action, which utilizes a jointed arm to lock, as opposed to the slide actions of almost every other semi-automatic pistol. The mechanism is explained as follows: after a round is fired, the barrel and toggle assembly (both locked together at this point) travel rearward due to recoil. After moving roughly one-half inch (13 mm) rearward, the toggle strikes a cam built into the frame, causing the knee joint to hinge and the toggle and breech assembly to unlock. At this point the barrel stops its rearward movement (it impacts the frame), but the toggle and breech assembly continue moving (bending the knee joint) due to momentum, extracting the spent casing from the chamber and ejecting it. The toggle and breech assembly subsequently travel forward (under spring tension) and the next round from the magazine is loaded into the chamber. The entire sequence occurs in a fraction of a second.
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[b][i]The Toggle Action[/b][/i]
[b]The Luger was later replaced by the P38.[/b]
Thats it for the pistols, now onto the only submachine guns I'm doing for the Wehrmacht.
[b]The MP40 and MP38[/b]
The MP40 was known to US Soldiers as "The Burp Gun" or "Schmeissers"
MP40: [img]http://www.germandaggers.info/images/mp40.jpg[/img]
MP38: [img]http://www.germandaggers.info/images/mp38.jpg[/img]
The MP-38 and MP-40, were developed by german engineer Follmer at the Erma company and adopted by Wehrmacht in 1938 and 1940, respectively. The MP-40 is a further modification of the MP-38. Total of some 1.2 millions of MP-38/40 were manufactured prior and during WW2. Initially, MP-38 was intended for use by paratroopers and vehicle crews, but later was widely used by german infantry.
Both MP-38 and MP-40 were blowback operated, full auto only submachine guns. MP-38 featured steel machined receiver, while MP-40 featured stamped receiver and stamped magazine veil to make the gun cheaper. The charging handle (located at the left side of the receiver) was used as a safety, locking the bolt in forward or rearward position when placed in cut slots in the receiver. Both MP-38 and MP-40 fired from the open bolt. Both featured special rate of fire reducer, that resulted in very controllable rate of fire of some 400-500 rounds per minute. Both guns featured special detail below the barrel to use the guns from armoured wehicles. Both guns featured underfolding steel buttstock. Both MP-38 and MP-40 featured fixed and hooded front sight and flippable rear sight with settings for 100 and 200 meters.
The main drawbacks of the MP 38/40 were the lack of the front handguards that often resulted burned hands during the sustained fire, and the lack of the effective range, when compared to its soviet counterparts (PPSch-41, PPS-43), chambered for more powerful 7.62mm TT round.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-278-0899-26%2C_Russland%2C_Soldat_mit_MP_40_im_Schnee.jpg[/img]
Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 4,7 kg loaded, 4,03 kg empty
Lenght (stock closed/open): 630/833 mm
Barrel lenght: mm
Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 32 rounds
Effective range: ca. 100 meters
[b]Rifles[/b]
[b]The Karabiner 98k, or Kar98k[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Karabiner_98k.jpg[/img]
The Kar98k was a bolt-action rifle adopted as the standard infantry rifle in 1935 by the German Wehrmacht, and was one of the final developments in the long line of Mauser military rifles.
[b]Design[/b]
The straight bolt handle found on the Gewehr 98 bolt had been replaced by a turned-down bolt handle on the Karabiner 98k. This change made it easier to mount aiming optics directly above the receiver on the Karabiner 98k. The standard Karabiner 98k tangent-type V-notch and post iron sights could be regulated for ranges from 100 m up to 2000 m in 100 m increments. The 98k rifle was designed to be used with an S84/98 III bayonet and to fire rifle grenades. Most rifles had laminated stocks, the result of trials that had stretched through the 1930s. Plywood laminates resisted warping better than the conventional one-piece patterns, did not require lengthy maturing and were less wasteful. Starting in late 1944, 98k production began transition to the Kriegsmodell" ("war model") variant. This version was simplified to meet wartime production demands, removing the bayonet lug, cleaning rod, stock disk, and other features deemed to be unnecessary.
The 98k had the same disadvantages as all other turn-of-the-century military rifles in that it was comparatively bulky and heavy, and the rate of fire was limited by how fast the bolt could be operated. Its magazine had only half the capacity of Great Britain's Lee-Enfield series rifles, but being internal, it made the weapon more comfortable to carry. A trench magazine was also produced that could be attached to the bottom of the internal magazine by removing the floor plate, increasing capacity to 20 rounds, though it still required loading with 5 round stripper clips. While the Allies (both Soviet and Anglo-American) developed and moved towards standardization of semi-automatic rifles, the Germans maintained these bolt-action rifles due to their tactical doctrine of basing a squad's firepower on the unit's light machine gun and possibly their problems of mass producing semi-automatic rifles.
In close combat, however, submachine guns were often preferred, especially for urban combat where the rifle's range and low rate of fire were not very useful. Towards the end of the war, the Karabiner 98k was being phased out in favour of the StG44 assault rifle, which fired the 7.92x33mm Kurz intermediate rifle round that was more powerful than the pistol cartridges of submachine guns, but that could be used like a submachine gun in close-quarters and urban fighting. Production of the StG44 was never sufficient to meet demand, being a late war weapon, and because of this the Mauser Karabiner 98k rifle was still produced and used as the standard infantry rifle by the German forces until the German surrender in May 1945.
[b] Kar98k Sniper Variant [/b]
For snipers, Karabiner 98k rifles selected for being exceptionally accurate during factory tests, were fitted with a telescopic sight as sniper rifles. Karabiner 98k sniper rifles had an effective range up to 800 meters (875 yards) when used by a skilled sniper. The German Zeiss Zielvier 4x (ZF39) telescopic sight had bullet drop compensation in 50 m increments for ranges from 100 m up to 800 m or in some variations from 100 m up to 1000 m. There were also ZF42, Zeiss Zielsechs 6x and other telescopic sights by various manufacturers like the Ajack 4x, Hensoldt Dialytan 4x and Kahles Heliavier 4x with similar features employed on Karabiner 98k sniper rifles. Several different mountings produced by various manufacturers were used. The Karabiner 98k was not designed for mounting telescopic sights. A telescopic sight mounted low above the receiver will not leave enough space between the rifle and the telescopic sight body for unimpaired operation of the three-position safety catch lever. This ergonomic problem was solved by mounting the telescopic sight relatively high above the receiver and sometimes modifying the safety operating lever for more comfortable operation. Approximately 132,000 of these sniper rifles were produced by Germany.
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[b][i]A German Sniper.[/b][/i]
[b]Specifications[/b]
Weight 3.7 kg (8.2 lb) - 4.1 kg (9 lb)
Length 1110 mm (43.7 in)
Barrel length 600 mm (23.62 in)
Cartridge 7.92x57mm IS
Action Bolt-action
Muzzle velocity 760 m/s (2,493 ft/s)
Effective range 500 m (547 yd) (with iron sights)
800+ m (875 yd) (with optics)
Feed system 5-round stripper clip, internal magazine
Sights iron sights, Telescopic sight
[b]The G-43[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Gewehr43.jpg[/img]
The Gewehr 43 or Karabiner 43 (G43, K43, Gew 43, Kar 43) is a 7.92x57mm Mauser caliber semi-automatic rifle developed by Nazi Germany during World War II. It was a modification of the G41(W) using an improved gas system similar to that of the Soviet Tokarev SVT40.
Germany's quest for a semi-automatic infantry rifle resulted in two designs - the G41(M) and G41(W), from Mauser and Walther arms respectively. The Mauser design proved unreliable in combat when introduced in 1941 and at least 12,755 were made. The Walther design fared better in combat but still suffered from reliability problems. In 1943 Walther introduced a new modified gas system with aspects of the G41(W) providing greatly improved performance. It was accepted and entered into service as the Gewehr 43, renamed Karabiner 43 in 1944, with production amounting to just over 400,000 with production only lasting from 1943 to 1945.
The Gewehr 43 was never mass produced and was never general issue, the official list of issued units was to be 1 in every platoon, and those were to be issued to a select specialist (designated marksman/engineer). Despite the Gewehr being a good improvement over the problematic Gewehr 41, and being a more effective combat rifle over slower bolt-action rifles, the Gewehr 43 was never as reliable or as robust and simple as the Allied rifles like the American M-1 rifle and Russian SVT-40 rifle, nor was the Gewehr 43 a common rifle to see in combat, for every 1 Gewehr 43 produced by the Germans, the Americans produced 50 M-1 rifles and the Soviets produced 20 SVT-40 rifles.
Though the Gewehr 43 was generally considered to be a good semi-automatic rifle, had good accuracy, and did fairly well in combat (better than the G41), it was more complicated to produce than Allied rifles, and was not as mechanically reliable as American and Russian semi-automatic rifles, the Germans were fighting against the tide of war, and the Gewehr rifles were produced much more crudely and primitively than the Allied weapon factories. Since it was never generally issued, or mass produced, the Gewehr 43 was never a big contender among Nations with general issue semi-automatic rifles like the U.S. and the USSR.
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[b]Walther G43.[/b]
[b]Machine Guns[/b]
[b]The MG34[/b]
[img]http://www.tankzone.co.uk/images/schumo/mg34.jpg[/img]
The Maschinengewehr 34, or MG34, was a machine gun that was first produced and accepted into service in 1934, and then issued to soldiers in 1935.
The MG34 was used as the primary infantry machine gun during the 1930s, and remained as the primary tank and aircraft defensive weapon. It was to be replaced in infantry service by the related MG42, but there were never enough quantities of the new design to go around, and MG34s soldiered on in all roles until the end of World War II. The MG34 was intended to replace the MG13 and other older machine guns, but these were still being used in WWII as demand was never met.
It was designed primarily by Heinrich Vollmer from the Mauser Werke, based on the recently introduced Rheinmetall-designed Solothurn 1930 (MG30) that was starting to enter service in Switzerland. The principal changes were to move the feed mechanism to a more convenient location on the left of the breech, and the addition of a shroud around the barrel. Changes to the operating mechanism improved the rate of fire to between 800 and 900 rpm.
The new gun was accepted for service almost immediately and was generally liked by the troops, and it was used to great effect by German soldiers assisting Nationalist Spain in the Spanish Civil War. At the time it was introduced, it had a number of advanced features and the general-purpose machine gun concept that it aspired to was an influential one. However, the MG 34 was also expensive, both in terms of construction and the raw materials needed (49 kg (108 lb) of steel) and its manufacture was too time-consuming to be built in the numbers required for the ever-expanding German armed forces. It was the standard machine gun of the Kriegsmarine. It also proved to be rather temperamental, jamming easily when dirty.
The MG 34 could use both magazine-fed and belt-fed 7.92 mm ammunition. Belts were supplied in a fixed length of 50 rounds, but could be linked up to make longer belts for sustained firing. A 250 round belt was also issued to machine guns installed in fixed emplacements such as bunkers. Ammunition boxes contained 250 rounds in five belts that were linked to make one continuous 100 round belt and one 150 round belt. The assault drums held a 50-round belt, or a 75-round "double drum" magazine could be used by replacing the top cover with one made specially for that purpose. A gun configured to use the 75-round magazine could not be returned to belt-feed mode without changing the top cover again. All magazine-feed MG 34s had been withdrawn from infantry use by 1941, with some remaining in use on armoured personnel carriers.
Like most machine guns, the MG 34's barrel is designed to be easily replaced to avoid overheating during sustained fire. During a barrel change, the operator would disengage a latch which held the receiver to the barrel sleeve. The entire receiver then pivoted off to the right, allowing the operator to pull the barrel out the back of the sleeve. A new barrel would then be put in the back of the sleeve, and the receiver rotated back in line with the barrel sleeve and latched. The entire process took just a few seconds when performed by a well-trained operator, causing minimal downtime in battle.
A unique feature of the MG 34 was its double-crescent trigger, which provided select fire capability without the need for a fire mode selector switch. Pressing the upper segment of the trigger produced semi-automatic fire, while holding the lower segment of the trigger produced fully-automatic fire. Though considered innovative at the time, the feature was eliminated due to its complexity on the MG 34's successor, the MG42.
[b]The MG42[/b]
[img]http://www.hpwt.de/2Weltkrieg/MG42.jpg[/img]
MG42, or "Hitler's Buzzsaw"
The MG42 was the successor of the MG34, it entered service in 1942.
The MG 42 weighed 11.6 kg in the light role with the bipod, lighter than the MG 34 and easily portable. The bipod, the same one used on the MG 34, could be mounted to the front or the center of the gun depending on where it was being used. For sustained fire use, it was matched to the newly-developed Lafette 42 tripod, which weighed 20.5 kg on its own. The barrel had polygonal rifling and was lighter than the MG 34's and heated more quickly, but could be replaced in seconds by an experienced gunner.
The optimum operating crew of an MG 42 for sustained fire operation was six men: the gun commander, the No.1 who fired the gun, the No.2 who carried the tripod, and Nos.3, 4, and 5 who carried ammunition, spare barrels, entrenching tools, and other items. For additional protection the commander, No.1 and No.2 were armed with pistols, while the remaining three carried rifles. This large team was often reduced to just three: the gunner, the loader (also barrel carrier), and the spotter. The gunner of the weapon was preferably a junior non-commissioned officer (or Unteroffizier).
U.S. and British doctrine of the era centered around the rifleman, with the machine gun serving a support role. German doctrine was the reverse, with the machine gun placed in a central role and rifleman employed in support. This meant that German forces deployed far more machine guns per equivalent-sized unit than the allies, and that allied troops assaulting a German position almost invariably faced the firepower of the MG42. It was possible for operating crews to lay down a non-stop barrage of fire, ceasing only when the barrel had to be replaced. This allowed the MG 42 to tie up significantly larger numbers of enemy troops. Both the Americans and the British trained their troops to take cover from the fire of an MG 42, and assault the position during the small window of barrel replacement. The high rate of fire of the MG 42 sometimes proved a liability, mainly in that, while the weapon could be used to devastating effect, it could quickly exhaust its ammunition supply. For this reason, it was not uncommon for all soldiers operating near an MG 42 to carry extra ammunition, thus providing the MG 42 with a backup source when its main supply was exhausted.
[b]Design[/b]
The MG 42 is roller-locked and recoil-operated (short recoil) with gas assist. It fires belt fed 7.92mm ammunition from an open bolt.
The roller-locked bolt assembly consists of a bolt head, two rollers, a striker sleeve, bolt body, and a large return spring, which is responsible for pushing the bolt assembly into battery (the locked position) and returning it there when it is unlocked and pushed backwards by the recoil of firing or by the charging handle. As the striker sleeve is movable back and forth within the bolt assembly, the return spring is also responsible for pushing the striker sleeve forward during locking (described below). The bolt assembly locks with the barrel's breech (the end the cartridge is loaded into) via a prong type barrel extension behind the breech. As it is recoil-operated and fired from an open bolt, the weapon must be manually charged with the side-mounted charging handle.
The roller-locked recoil operation functions as follows: two cylindrical rollers, positioned in tracks on the bolt head, are pushed outwards into matching tracks in the barrel extension by the striker sleeve and lock the bolt in place against the breech. Upon firing, rearward force from the recoil of the cartridge ignition pushes the striker assembly back and allows the rollers to move inwards, back to their previous position, unlocking the bolt head and allowing the bolt assembly to recoil, extracting the spent cartridge and ejecting it. The return spring then pushes the bolt assembly forwards again, pushing a new cartridge out of the belt into the breech, and the sequence repeats as long as the trigger is depressed. The MG42 is only capable of fully automatic fire. Single shots are exceptionally difficult, even for experienced operators, due to the weapon's rate of fire. Usual training aim is to be able to fire a minimum of three rounds. The weapon features a recoil booster at the muzzle to increase rearwards force due to recoil, therefore improving functional reliability and rate of fire.
The MG 42 fires from an open bolt, meaning the bolt (not the firing pin) is held in a rearward position when the trigger is not depressed. Depressing the trigger releases the bolt assembly, of which the firing pin is a component.
The shoulder stock is designed to permit gripping with the left hand to hold it secure against the shoulder. Considerable recoil otherwise causes the stock to creep from its intended position. If the weapon is not properly "seated" on the bipod, a prone gunner may be pushed back along the ground from the high recoil of this weapon.
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An MG42 with a drum magazine.
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[b]Assault Rifles and Battle Rifles[/b]
[b]The StG 44[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Sturmgewehr_44.jpg[/img]
The StG 44 or Sturmgewehr 44 was an assault rifle developed in Nazi Germany during World War II and was the first of its kind to see major deployment, considered by many historians to be the first modern assault rifle.
The rifle was chambered for the 7.92x33mm Kurz cartridge, also known as 7.92 mm Kurz. This shorter version of the German standard (7.92x57mm Mauser) rifle round, in combination with the weapon's selective-fire design, provided a compromise between the controllable firepower of a submachine gun at close quarters with the accuracy and power of a Karabiner 98k bolt action rifle at intermediate ranges. While the StG44 had less range and power than the more powerful infantry rifles of the day, Wehrmacht studies had shown that most combat engagements occurred at less than 300 m with the majority within 200 m. Full-power rifle cartridges were excessive for the vast majority of uses for the average soldier.
The StG 44's receiver was made of heavy stamped and welded steel as were other contemporary arms such as the MP 40 and MG 42. This made for a fairly heavy rifle, especially one firing an intermediate-power cartridge. Difficulties with fabrication, the need to use available non-priority steels, and the exigencies of war resulted in a heavy receiver. U.S. military intelligence criticized the weight of the weapon along with the inclusion of the fully automatic feature which it considered "ineffectual for all practical purposes", as full automatic fire with StG 44 was permitted in emergencies only. The British were also critical saying that the receiver could be bent and the bolt locked up by the mere act of knocking a leaning rifle onto a hard floor. Many of these criticisms are more a testimonial of the Allied aversion rather than an accurate view of the weapon's characteristics which were proven during combat in the war.
To its credit, it was the first successful weapon of its class, and the concept had a major impact on modern infantry small arms development. By all accounts, the StG44 fulfilled its role admirably, particularly on the Eastern Front, offering a greatly increased volume of fire compared to standard infantry rifles. In the end, it came too late to have a significant effect on the outcome of the war.
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[b][i]A German soldier with a STG44[/b][/i]
During weapon testing Adolf Hitler ordered that more, newer submachine guns were to be built and strongly disagreed with the use of the new ammunition. However, his army continued work on the weapon, disguising the weapon as the MP 43 (Machine pistol.) In April 1944, Hitler decreed that the MP 43 be renamed the MP 44 after taking some interest in the weapon tests. In July 1944, at a meeting of the various army heads about the Eastern Front, when Hitler asked what they needed, a general exclaimed, "More of these new rifles!". This caused some confusion (Hitler's response is reputed to have been "What new rifle?"), but once Hitler was given a chance to see and test-fire the MP 44, he was impressed and gave it the title Sturmgewehr. Seeing the possibility of a propaganda gain, the rifle was again renamed as the StG 44, to highlight the new class of weapon it represented, translated "Storm (Assault) rifle, model 1944", thereby introducing the term.
By the end of the war, some 425,977 StG 44 variants of all types were produced. The assault rifle proved a valuable weapon, especially on the Eastern front, where it was first deployed. A properly trained soldier with a StG44 had an improved tactical repertoire, in that he could effectively engage targets at longer ranges than with an MP 40, but be much more useful than the Kar 98k in close combat, as well as provide covering fire like a light machine gun. It was also found to be exceptionally reliable in the extreme cold of the Russian winter.
The StG 44 was an intermediate weapon for the period; the muzzle velocity from its 419 mm (16.5 in) barrel was 685 m/s (2,247.4 ft/s), compared to 760 m/s (2,493 ft/s) of the Karabiner 98k, 744 m/s (2,440.9 ft/s) of the British Bren, 600 m/s (1,968.5 ft/s) of the M1 carbine, and 365 m/s (1,197.5 ft/s) achieved by the MP40.
One unusual addition to the design was the Krummlauf; a bent barrel attachment for rifles with a periscope sighting device for shooting around corners from a safe position. It was produced in several variants: a "I" version for infantry use, a "P" version for use in tanks (to cover the dead areas in the close range around the tank, to defend against assaulting infantry), versions with 30°, 45°, 60° and 90° bends, a version for the StG 44 and one for the MG 42. Only the 30° "I" version for the StG 44 was produced in any numbers. The bent barrel attachments had very short lifespans – approx. 300 rounds for the 30° version, and 160 rounds for the 45° variant. The 30° model was able to achieve a 35x35 cm grouping at 100 m.
StG-44 equipped German troops fighting in the Ardennes.
The Sturmgewehr was also at times fitted with the Zielgerät 1229 infrared aiming device, also known by its codename Vampir ("vampire"), this device consisted of a large scope, rather like modern starlight scopes,and a large infra-red lamp on top, the scope being able to pick up the infra-red that would be invisible to the naked eye.
A primary use of the MP44/StG44 was to counter the Soviet PPS and PPSh-41 submachine guns, which used the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round. These cheap, mass-produced weapons used a 71-round drum magazine or 35-round box magazine and though shorter-ranged than the Kar98k rifle, were more effective weapons in close-quarter engagements. The StG 44, while lacking the range of the Kar 98k, had a considerably longer range than the PPS/PPSh submachine guns, a comparable rate of fire, an ability to switch between a fully automatic and a default semi-automatic fire mode and surprising accuracy: its inline design gave it controllability even on full-auto. The basic design principles of the StG44 are embodied in all modern assault rifles, beginning most famously with the numerously manufactured AK-47.
[b]The FG-42[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/FG42.jpg[/img]
The FG 42 (German: Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 or "paratrooper rifle 42") was a selective fire battle rifle produced in Nazi Germany during World War II. The weapon was developed specifically for the use with Fallschirmjäger airborne infantry in 1942 and was used in very limited numbers until the end of the war.
It combined the characteristics and firepower of a light machine gun in a lightweight form no larger than the standard-issue Kar 98k bolt-action rifle. Considered one of the most advanced weapon designs of World War II, the FG 42 influenced post-war small arms development and ultimately helped to shape the modern assault rifle concept.
The FG 42 was a select-fire air-cooled weapon and one of the first to incorporate the "straight-line" recoil configuration. This layout, combined with the side magazine, placed both the center of gravity and the position of the shoulder stock nearly in line with the longitudinal axis of the bore, a feature increasing controllability during burst or automatic fire. The operating system was derived from that used in the successful Lewis light machine gun with a gas piston-actuated turning bolt locking mechanism. This system used pressurized exhaust gases from the bore and channeled them through a port drilled in the barrel into a gas cylinder located under the barrel. The rapid build-up of propellant gases imparted rearward pressure on a long-stroke piston, driving it backwards, while an extension of the bolt carrier interacted with a helical camming slot machined into the bolt carrier, converting this linear movement into an angular velocity and forcing the bolt into a rotary motion, clearing the locking juts and unlocking it near the end of the bolt carrier's travel. The weapon was locked into battery by two lugs on the bolt head which recessed into appropriate cavities machined into the receiver walls.
In 1941, the Luftwaffe, requested a selective fire hand-held weapon for the paratroopers; Senior Staff Air Secretary Ossenbach at the GL/C Erprobungsstelle-6 (GL/C E-6—the Luftwaffe Weapons Development Branch at Tarnewitz near Lübeck) was approached informally to develop this special new weapon. The Reich Air Ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium or RLM) sought to develop a universal shoulder-fired automatic rifle that could replace the bolt-action rifle, submachine gun, and light machine gun in the air assault role. The proposed weapon would also simplify logistics and provide greater firepower to the individual paratrooper.
The RLM attempted to initiate a formal weapons development program through the Heereswaffenamt (the HWaA, or Army Ordnance Department)—responsible for German small arms development—but conflicting priorities and friction with the Army (the HWaA dismissed the undertaking as unrealistic and offered their G 41(W) semi-automatic rifle instead) led to an independent development by the Luftwaffe. Plans were laid out to form a central authority for the new program at the Luftwaffe testing station at Tarnewitz. The engineers on staff had acquired considerable expertise developing lightweight automatic weapons, having successfully converted the MG 15 aircraft machine gun to a ground configuration. However, due to the high casualties sustained by the paratroopers during Operation Mercury, Hitler changed his mind about the tactical importance of airborne assaults and the plans were terminated. Nevertheless, Luftwaffe Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring privately ordered the continuation of the project.
The RLM went directly to German industry with its plans—the so-called LC-6 specification issued 14 December 1941 mentioned amongst others that the weapon should not exceed 1,000 mm (39.4 in) in length, should not be significantly heavier than the Kar 98k rifle, should be able to fire single shots from a closed bolt, provide fully-automatic fire from an open bolt, feed from detachable 10 or 20-round magazines and be able to fire rifle grenades. Despite the introduction of the intermediate 7.92x33mm Kurz cartridge promoted by the Heer (developed for the promising MP 43 assault rifle), the Luftwaffe favored the long-range potential of the standard 7.92x57mm Mauser rifle round and this caliber was one of the main design prerequisites.
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The FG 42 fired in semi-automatic mode from a closed bolt, accomplished by delaying the release of the firing pin (mounted on the bolt carrier and released by the front sear notch) until after the trigger had been pressed; the short lock time, and little movement in the action during firing translated into greater single-shot accuracy. When operating in the automatic mode, the sear mechanism was designed to fire from an open bolt by simultaneously releasing both the bolt and bolt carrier. This had the advantage of preventing a phenomenon known as "cook off" where the heat of repeated rounds being fired caused a chambered round to overheat and prematurely ignite the powder or primer. With automatic fire selected, the bolt would remain open between bursts to provide maximum cooling. The rotating fire selector switch was situated in the trigger group, above the pistol grip on the right side. The change lever also served as the safety, disabling the sear mechanism when engaged.
After approximately 2,000 FG42s had been produced by Krieghoff, supplies of the manganese steel from which the receivers were forged were diverted to other needs; this meant a redesign was required to use stamped sheet metal in its place. Field reports were also requesting minor improvements, such as: relocating the bipod from the front of the handguard to the muzzle to reduce shot dispersion; changing the pistol grip angle to near vertical; enlarging the handguard and changing the stock from stamped steel to wood to minimize overheating. These changes, particularly the pistol grip change and the bipod relocation, are clearly visible on late-model FG42s.both models also had a simple flip-out spike bayonet under the barrel hidden by the bipod,in the later version the bayonet was shortened from around 10 inches to around 6 inches.
[b]Portable anti-tank weapons[/b]
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[b]Panzerbüchse 39[/b]
The Panzerbüchse 39 (PzB 39) was a German anti-tank rifle used in World War II. Panzerbüchse means "tank rifle"; the component term "Büchse" is the term for a hunting or sporting rifle (compared to the word "Gewehr" for a rifle in general).
German anti-tank rifle development resumed in the late 1930s. In an effort to provide infantry with a man-portable lightweight alternative to the TuF Gewehr, Dipl.-Ing. (certified engineer) B. Brauer at Gustloff Werke in Suhl designed the Panzerbüchse 38 (PzB 38). It was a manually-loaded single shot weapon with a recoiling barrel. When fired, the barrel recoiled about 9 cm, which opened the breech and ejected the spent cartridge casing. The breech block was then arrested in the rear position, remaining opened for the gunner to manually insert a new cartridge. The gunner then released the cocked breech with a lever at the grip. The breech and barrel would then move forward again and the trigger was cocked in preparation to fire. This rather complicated mechanism was reportedly prone to jamming as the system got dirty in field use. Although manufactured with pressed steel parts that were spot-welded, still because of the complicated vertical breech block mechanism it was difficult to manufacture and only a small number of 1,408 PzB 38 rifles were built in 1939 and 1940 at the Gustloff Werke plant; 62 of these weapons were used by German troops in the invasion of Poland in 1939.
Starting in 1942, remaining PzB 39 rifles were rebuilt with a shortened barrel (590 mm) and an affixed Schiessbecher ("firing cup") attachment threaded to the barrel and used to launch standard rifle grenades. The cup was the standard type used with the ubiquitous Kar 98k infantry rifle and the ammunition was also interchangeable; there were three types of grenades: an anti-personnel grenade, a light anti-tank grenade and a large-diameter anti-tank grenade. The grenades were propelled by a special cartridge with a wood bullet. The rifle was also outfitted with a special sighting arrangement for firing up to 150 m and the wooden forend was removed. These converted rifles received the designation Granatbüchse Modell 39 (GrB 39) and remained in use until the end of the war.
[b]The Panzerfaust[/b]
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The Panzerfaust or "Tank fist" was an inexpensive, recoilless German anti-tank weapon of World War II. It consisted of a small, disposable preloaded launch tube firing a high explosive anti-tank warhead, operated by a single soldier. The Panzerfaust remained in service in various versions until the end of the war.
Development began in 1942 on a larger version of the Faustpatrone. The resulting weapon was the Panzerfaust 30, with a total weight of 5.1 kilograms (11.2 lb) and total length of 1.045 metres (3.4 ft). The launch tube was made of low-grade steel 44 millimetres (1.7 in) in diameter, containing a 95-gram (3.4 oz) charge of black powder propellant. Along the side of the tube were a simple folding rear sight and a trigger. The edge of the warhead was used as the front sight. The oversize warhead (140 mm (5.5 in) in diameter) was fitted into the front of the tube by an attached wooden tail stem with metal stabilizing fins. The warhead weighed 2.9 kilograms (6.4 lb) and contained 0.8 kilograms (1.8 lb) of a 50:50 mixture of TNT and hexogen explosives, and had armor penetration of 200 millimetres (7.9 in).
The Panzerfaust often had warnings written in large red letters on the upper rear end of the tube, the words usually being Achtung! Feuerstrahl! ("Attention! Fire Jet!"). This was to warn soldiers to avoid the backblast. After firing, the tube was discarded, making the Panzerfaust the first disposable anti-tank weapon. During the last stages of the war, many poorly-trained conscripts were given a Panzerfaust and nothing else, causing several German generals to comment sarcastically that the tubes could then be used as clubs. The weapon was correctly fired from the crook of the arm and the shaped charge could penetrate any armoured fighting vehicle of the period.
Many Panzerfausts were sold to Finland, which urgently needed them as the Finnish forces lacked anti-tank weapons that could penetrate heavily armored Soviet tanks like the T-34 and IS-2; instead, the Finns used Molotov cocktails and improvised mines to stop and capture the tanks that they could not destroy at a distance. The Finnish experience with the weapon and its fitness for Finnish needs was mixed and only 4,000 of 25,000 Panzerfausts delivered were expended in combat.
In the Battle of Normandy, only 6% of British tank losses were from Panzerfaust fire, despite the close-range combat in the Bocage landscape. However, the threat from the Panzerfaust forced tank forces to wait for infantry support before advancing. The portion of British tanks destroyed by Panzerfausts later rose to 34%, a rise probably explained by the lack of German anti-tank guns late in the war and also the terrain where the fighting took place.
[b]The Panzerschreck[/b]
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Panzerschreck was the popular name for the Raketenpanzerbüchse (abbreviated to RPzB), an 88 mm calibre reusable anti-tank rocket launcher developed by Nazi Germany in World War II.
The Panzerschreck was designed as a lightweight infantry anti-tank weapon. The weapon was shoulder-launched and fired a rocket-propelled, fin-stabilized grenade with a shaped charge warhead. It was made in much smaller numbers than the Panzerfaust, which was a disposable recoilless rifle firing an anti-tank warhead.
In 1941, when the Germans encountered the new Soviet tank designs such as the T-34, they quickly discovered the effectiveness of the high explosive anti-tank (HEAT) round against this new threat. The need of a more effective infantry anti-tank weapon than the Panzerbüchse 39 (PzB 39) anti-tank rifles was paramount for the German army.
Development for such a weapon which used the HEAT principle quickly ensued. The first development was a converted anti-tank grenade launcher version of the P.z.b 39 anti-tank rifle called the G.z.b 39. Development created the Faustpatrone and later the Panzerfaust which were highly effective against Allied armor but lacked the range and multi-purpose nature of the 2.36-inch (60mm) M1A1 "Bazooka". German troops later captured many Allied bazookas in North Africa as well as some lend-lease versions on the Eastern front. The German army quickly developed an enlarged German version of the M1A1 Bazooka, the Raketenpanzerbüchse, which had double the penetrative performance and used a bigger 88 mm round. Although this was a much heavier round than its Allied counterpart, it proved itself against Allied armor on all fronts, earning the nickname "tank terror".
The first model was the RPzB 43 which was 164 cm long and weighed about 9.25 kg when empty. Operators of the RPzB 43 had to wear a protective poncho and a gas mask without a filter to protect them from the heat of the backblast when the weapon was fired. In October 1943, it was succeeded by the RPzB 54 which was fitted with a blast shield to protect the operator. This was heavier and weighed 11 kg empty. This was followed by the RPzB 54/1 with an improved rocket, shorter barrel and a range increased to about 180 meters.
Firing the RPzB generated a lot of smoke both in front and behind the weapon. Because of the weapon's tube and the smoke, the German troops nicknamed it the Ofenrohr ("Stove Pipe"). This also meant that Panzerschreck teams were revealed once they fired, making them targets and, therefore, required them to shift positions. This type of system also made it problematic to fire the weapon from inside closed spaces (such as bunkers or houses), filling the room with toxic smoke and revealing the firing location immediately. This was in contrast to the British PIAT's cumbersome, but non-smoking system, or the Panzerfaust's short burst launch system.
The Panzerschreck was an effective weapon. Allied bazookas had problems with newer up-armored German tanks later in the war, most notably the Tiger tank and the Panther tank. By comparison the Panzerschreck rocket could penetrate over 200 mm of armor, which was only found on the IS-2 Soviet tanks, but paid for this extra hitting power with extra weight. The rocket projectile weighed 3.3 kg (7.25 lb). One direct hit was usually enough to destroy any Allied armored vehicle. When handled by well-trained crews, this weapon became the bane of Allied armored units, who frequently attempted to add improvised protection to their tanks, e.g. sandbags, spare track units, logs and so on. Most of this make-shift protection had little actual effect, and in fact overtaxed the vehicle's engine, transmission, and suspension systems.
[b]The German Flamethrower[/b]
[b]The Flammenwerfer 35[/b]
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[b][i]German soldier with a F35, on the right.[/b][/i]
The Flammenwerfer 35, or "Flame thrower" was the one-man German flamethrower used during World War II used to clear out trenches and buildings. This was a deadly weapon that was extremely effective at close range. It could project fuel up to 25m from the user. This weapon was also known as the "skinsteal", because using this weapon at close range would usually result in severe skin loss, and the burning liquid compound used produced fumes very similar to lachrymatory agents.
It had a weight of 35.8 kilograms (79 lb), and held 11.8 litres (2.6 imp gal; 3.1 US gal) of flaming oil, (Flammöl 19), petrol mixed with tar to make it heavier and to give it better range, which was ignited by a hydrogen torch providing about 10 seconds of continuous use. The firing device is activated at the same time with the Selbstschlussventil and is to be found inside the protective pipe. The Flammenwerfer 35 was produced until 1941, when the lighter, slightly redesigned Flammenwerfer 41 began replacing it.
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[b]The Model 24 Grenade[/b]
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The Model 24 Stielhandgranate was the standard hand grenade of the German Army from the end of World War I until the end of World War II. The very distinctive appearance led to its being called a "stick grenade", or a "potato masher" in British Army slang.
[b]Mechanism[/b]
A pull cord ran down the hollow handle from the detonator within the explosive head, terminating in a porcelain ball held in place by a detachable base closing cap. To use the grenade, the base cap was unscrewed, permitting the ball and cord to fall out. Pulling the cord dragged a roughened steel rod through the igniter causing it to flare-up and start the five-second fuse burning. This allowed the grenade to be hung from fences to prevent them from being climbed; any disturbance to the dangling grenade would cause it to fall and ignite the fuse.
The first stick grenades featured a permanently revealed pull cord which came out from the handle near the bottom (rather than tucked inside the removable screw-capped base). These exposed pull cords had a tendency to accidentally snag and detonate the grenades while being carried, causing severe (usually fatal) injuries.
Stick grenades were stored in cases for transport, and their fuse assemblies inserted prior to going into combat — a reminder for the user was stenciled on each explosive charge ("VOR GEBRAUCH SPRENGKAPSEL EINSETZEN", in English: "Before use insert detonator").
The stick provided a lever, significantly improving the throwing distance. The Model 24 could be thrown approximately 30 to 40 yards, The design also minimized the risk of the grenade rolling downhill back towards the thrower when used in hilly terrain or in urban areas.
The grenades were extremely useful for clearing out entrenched infantry positions. Although they were not individually very effective against armoured vehicles and fortifications, the grenade could be used in an improvised "bundle" style with another six explosive heads (without their sticks) wired around the central stick grenade. These were known as Geballte Ladung (literally "balled charge" or "concentrated charge").
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[b][i]The "Geballte Ladung"[/b][/i]
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[b][i]A Diagram of a M24[/b][/i]
[b]End[/b]
That is all for the Wehrmacht, tomorrow I will do the Red Army.
And no, there is no TL;DR.
[b]RED ARMY IS HERE[/b]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1023876-World-War-2-Infantry-information.?p=25924669&viewfull=1#post25924669[/url]
[b]Bonus: German Marching Songs[/b]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5dlv6-B74[/media]
I don't think any uniform will ever surpass the sexiness of the German uniform.
Even fascism has a cool side.
-snip-
Well that was a pretty good read. Kudos.
This is a cool thread.
You gotta love history.
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That is, when it's weapons and stuff.
[QUOTE=Super2Donny;25911750]What is this for? :v:[/QUOTE]
I was bored and I love WW2. :v:
Waiting for a ww2fag to point out inaccuracy...
:ninja:
I could care less. :buddy:
[QUOTE=16bit;25911757]I was bored and I love WW2. :v:[/QUOTE]
kay.
:f5:
It's spelled "Wehrmacht".
I love the style of WW2 weaponry/armour, of course it was a horrible event but at least they looked cool while taking part.
wait... are these copied from Wikipedia? :frown:
Very impressive thread. :golfclap:
An hour and a half making this turned out to be a success.
[QUOTE=16bit;25911699][b]The Luger was later replaced the P38.[/b][/QUOTE]
HURR DURR One word missing, entire post invalid durr.
It was a good read, I liked it, very informative.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;25911826]It's spelled "Wehrmacht".[/QUOTE]
Where did I misspell it? I thought I had spelt it all right.
>World War II Infantry Information
>World War II [B]German[/B] Infantry Information
[QUOTE=Religous Nutjob;25911837]HURR DURR One word missing, entire post invalid durr.[/QUOTE]
:ohdear: oh fuck oh fuck were gonna be poor
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[QUOTE=Tippmann357;25911845]>World War II Infantry Information
>World War II [B]German[/B] Infantry Information[/QUOTE]
I'm typing them in parts, I will update the OP when I'm done with the next one.
Some people are just too obsessed with war
For everyone of your boxes I grow stronger, give me more
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good content though
My great grandpa was in WWII, though he shot himself in the foot.
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;25911868]My great grandpa was in WWII, though he shot himself in the foot.[/QUOTE]
What army?
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;25911868]My great grandpa was in WWII, though he shot himself in the foot.[/QUOTE]
My Grandpa was also in WWII. Wanna be friends? :unsmith:
I have a k98 which was used by my mothers grand father or something along those lines. Nice thread very informative
[QUOTE=16bit;25911878]What army?[/QUOTE]
For England. Dunno anything else though. My great great grandpa was in WWI, died on the first day of the battle of the somme.
[QUOTE=Colliseemoe;25911890]My Grandpa was also in WWII. Wanna be friends? :unsmith:[/QUOTE]
Ok :3:
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;25911905]For England. Dunno anything else though. My great great grandpa was in WWI, died on the first day of the battle of the [b]somme[/b].
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Oh god somme was a bloody battle, that huge mine went off there right?
[QUOTE=16bit;25911919]Oh god somme was a bloody battle, that huge mine went off there right?[/QUOTE]
I don't think you quite get the scope of the Battles of the Somme.
[QUOTE=16bit;25911847]:ohdear: oh fuck oh fuck were gonna be poor
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I'm typing them in parts, I will update the OP when I'm done with the next one.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind the character limit, might be better to post them separately and link to them in the OP.
Idk, I just know that Somme was really, I think like the bloodiest battle ever, it was on the end of black adder's goes forth, and it's where all the poppies come from. I think it's in france right? Went to the memorial there. WWI interests me more than WWII
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Though don't know much about either.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25911955]Keep in mind the character limit, might be better to post them separately and link to them in the OP.[/QUOTE]
Yes I know of the character limit, I'll put the links for the new posts in the OP.
history is like, the coolest subject ever.
OP, you gonna be posting the rest? (didn't read the posts after the OP, sorry if this has been answered)
[QUOTE=Tokii;25912070]history is like, the coolest subject ever.
OP, you gonna be posting the rest? (didn't read the posts after the OP, sorry if this has been answered)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=16bit;25911847]:ohdear: oh fuck oh fuck were gonna be poor
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I'm typing them in parts, I will update the OP when I'm done with the next one.[/QUOTE]
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Off to bed now. I will type the Soviet part in the morning.
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