Israeli PM: White House criticism of Israeli settlement construction "is against American values"
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[quote]Israel's prime minister dismissed a recent White House rebuke of Israeli settlement construction, saying in comments broadcast on Sunday that the criticism goes "against American values."[/quote]
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He has a point! As an American my day wouldn't be complete if I didn't get my daily share of committing war crimes and shooting Muslims.
[QUOTE]"It's against the American values. And it doesn't bode well for peace"[/QUOTE]
Is "doesn't bode well for peace" the new "is antisemitic"? They're using it even as an excuse not to be investigated by UN for war crimes.
Hopefully this latest shit they pulled will have some consequences so they'll stop pretending they're always the good guys
Neither is giving 3 trillion a year to Israel
He's getting really desperate considering all the bullshit he keeps shouting lately
This guy is such a massive shitstain that he still manages to surprise me with how fucking awful he is.
[editline]5th October 2014[/editline]
Marceline go JIDF somewhere else
I dunno, unconditionally supporting Israel because of Christian Zionists is pretty much a core American value
and I wish it wasn't because it's really stupid
Questioning the actions of government? Yes, very un-American..
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46157693]Questioning the actions of government? Yes, very un-American..[/QUOTE]
I hear confiscating private property based on a person's ethnicity is supposed to be very American as well.
I'm cringng so hard at this. I'm going to add this to my list of things so absurd, I've nothing to say of it. He's dictating what is/isn't our values, based on how it affects him and his faction.
This is akin to "Israel-fisting," you know, what Israeli proponents accuse critics of being antisemitic for if brought up.
What American Values? You mean the ones from the 17th - 19th century?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46158406]What American Values? You mean the ones from the 17th - 19th century?[/QUOTE]
That would be an improvement, since Americans really didn't care much for the Jews back then. It would certainly put a stop to this whole unwavering Zionist friendliness coming from the Christian fundamentalists in this country that's unnecessarily dictating our excessive support for Israel.
I get that they could be a useful ally to us in the region, but we give them way too much credit and support undeservedly.
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[editline]5th October 2014[/editline]
Marceline go JIDF somewhere else[/QUOTE]
If the only thing you amount to any discussion is "Israel. Baaaaaaaaad!" then of course you deserve a box. It's just a fucking hook for zings and agrees, and nothing more. And, if it interests you, I'm a bit of a skeptic to the settler movement too and on how Netanyahu conducts himself. He's handling the investigations in the worst way possible. I just find "Massive shitstain is baaad" to mean absolutely nothing of value.
Criticism is as far as it's ever going to go.
There isn't a chance in hell that the US wouldn't back Israel, for better or worse.
[QUOTE=Marceline;46161562]If the only thing you amount to any discussion is "Israel. Baaaaaaaaad!" then of course you deserve a box. It's just a fucking hook for zings and agrees, and nothing more. And, if it interests you, I'm a bit of a skeptic to the settler movement too and on how Netanyahu conducts himself. He's handling the investigations in the worst way possible. I just find "Massive shitstain is baaad" to mean absolutely nothing of value.[/QUOTE]
He's probably just frustrated because you seem to go into every single Israel thread and dumb/disagree almost every single person that says anything at all critical of Israel.
I agree ratings don't matter but I can see why he specifically mentioned you.
I'm a soldier and I can say whole-heartedly that supporting Israel goes against American values. Consistent human rights violations alone make them fit to not be our ally, but rather our enemy (though I don't support going to war against them so much as punishing them for the injustices they bring). Don't misinterpret me, please, I'm not saying all Israelis are wrong, not that all Jews are wrong, not that all Americans are right (we all know the truth there), but the sheer amount of shit being spewed in an attempt to justify immoral actions is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;46161973]He's probably just frustrated because you seem to go into every single Israel thread and dumb/disagree almost every single person that says anything at all critical of Israel.
I agree ratings don't matter but I can see why he specifically mentioned you.[/QUOTE]
Funny, I don't see him calling out the people who dumb/disagree every post by the people on the other side. It has nothing to do with ratings and everything to do with him not wanting to put up with dissenting opinions.
Personally, I almost never use ratings. They have no use when it comes to anything attempting to be a real discussion.
[QUOTE=sgman91;46162529]Funny, I don't see him calling out the people who dumb/disagree every post by the people on the other side. It has nothing to do with ratings and everything to do with him not wanting to put up with dissenting opinions.
Personally, I almost never use ratings. They have no use when it comes to anything attempting to be a real discussion.[/QUOTE]
I am more inclined to be critical of behavior of people I severely disagree than of the people I am indifferent towards, how surprising.
I don't pretend to be impartial in the question of Israel.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46162562]I am more inclined to be critical of behavior of people I severely disagree than of the people I am indifferent towards, how surprising.
I don't pretend to be impartial in the question of Israel.[/QUOTE]
"Marceline go JIDF somewhere else" isn't "being critical." It's childish name calling.
[QUOTE=Marceline;46161562]If the only thing you amount to any discussion is "Israel. Baaaaaaaaad!" then of course you deserve a box. It's just a fucking hook for zings and agrees, and nothing more. And, if it interests you, I'm a bit of a skeptic to the settler movement too and on how Netanyahu conducts himself. He's handling the investigations in the worst way possible. I just find "Massive shitstain is baaad" to mean absolutely nothing of value.[/QUOTE]
Who are you to claim I post for ratings? How can you tell what my motives for the post are? Did it ever cross your mind that maybe simply have a very strong opinion I want to voice and it just happens to coincide with general opinion?
Admittedly it's not that often I get dumbrated, but that's mostly because when I feel like something might upset people, I have the decency to keep it to myself. But if the matter is pressing enough to me I still do post, and I never snip a post even if bad ratings begin pouring in unless I figure out it might be considered trolling and get me banned.
[editline]6th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;46162593]"Marceline go JIDF somewhere else" isn't "being critical." It's childish name calling.[/QUOTE]
I am more inclined to stoop to childish namecalling towards people I severely disagree with than of the people I am indifferent towards, how surprising.
I don't pretend to be impartial in the question of Israel, and I won't pretend I am polite when I find someone's behavior ridiculous and detestable enough.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46162602]I am more inclined to stoop to childish namecalling towards people I severely disagree with than of the people I am indifferent towards, how surprising.
I don't pretend to be impartial in the question of Israel, and I won't pretend I am polite when I find someone's behavior ridiculous and detestable enough.[/QUOTE]
It's not often that people agree with and embrace childish behavior, but hey, at least you're honest.
Just as a side note: I'm sure many people find you just as ridiculous and detestable as you find them. If everyone fell to your current standards of childish behavior being fine as long as you REALLY don't like someone's opinion, then almost every discussion would be full of nothing but name calling. Luckily the majority don't seem to agree with that idea.
Anyway, this is off topic and I won't be continuing it. You can have the last word.
[QUOTE=Govna;46158552]That would be an improvement, since Americans really didn't care much for the Jews back then. It would certainly put a stop to this whole unwavering Zionist friendliness coming from the Christian fundamentalists in this country that's unnecessarily dictating our excessive support for Israel.[/QUOTE]
Actually I was referencing this:
[img]http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4640051/invasion_gif.gif[/img]
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