If the ludicrous mode Model 3 is even comparable to this I'll be the happiest man alive.
I'd be way too scared to ever go this fast.
Hilarious how those icons to the right of the car come flying up and flash away.
[QUOTE=Nifae;50773898]I'd be way too scared to ever go this fast.[/QUOTE]
I am terrified knowing this was done on an actual road and not a race track or anything specialized. yikes.
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;50784883]I am terrified knowing this was done on an actual road and not a race track or anything specialized. yikes.[/QUOTE]
seeing as how its in km/h its probably on the autobahn
[QUOTE=Zombii;50784952]seeing as how its in km/h its probably on the autobahn[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The test was done on unrestricted autobahn in Germany.[/QUOTE]
Yep, from the description
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;50784883]I am terrified knowing this was done on an actual road and not a race track or anything specialized. yikes.[/QUOTE]
From the same guy:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8CgeT_qpB0[/media]
(there are two parts of this)
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;50772653]If the ludicrous mode Model 3 is even comparable to this I'll be the happiest man alive.[/QUOTE]
You realize that car will cost 60k or higher right? I feel like if you can afford that then just get a base S now...
[QUOTE]Tesla is under an immense amount of pressure with the Model 3, with nearly 400,000 customers depositing $1000 to get in line to buy one. [/QUOTE]
Is that number right? That's $400 million in reservation money alone
[QUOTE=Nifae;50773898]I'd be way too scared to ever go this fast.[/QUOTE]
Honestly in the right car it's not that scary, however doing it in a Barina or something in a car not built for it originally is scary.
[QUOTE=Animosus;50794621]Honestly in the right car it's not that scary, however doing it in a Barina or something in a car not built for it originally is scary.[/QUOTE]
Bad road quality also ups the scary factor too
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50793680]You realize that car will cost 60k or higher right? I feel like if you can afford that then just get a base S now...[/QUOTE]
I built one on their site and it was like $109,000
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50793680]You realize that car will cost 60k or higher right? I feel like if you can afford that then just get a base S now...[/QUOTE]
A top spec Model 3 will probably be faster than a base spec Model S I imagine.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50793680]You realize that car will cost 60k or higher right? I feel like if you can afford that then just get a base S now...[/QUOTE]
The base S does not have ludicrous mode.
[editline]29th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Morgen;50797299]A top spec Model 3 will probably be faster than a base spec Model S I imagine.[/QUOTE]
There's some potential for it to be faster than a top spec Model S (of this year, of course).
They're doing some pretty cool stuff with the Model 3 that I can only imagine will come to the S soon.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50793680]You realize that car will cost 60k or higher right? I feel like if you can afford that then just get a base S now...[/QUOTE]
you do realize the base 3 starts at like 35 without incentives
ludicrous mode only adds 10k to the price of the p90d
it probably won't cost 60k+
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50798036]you do realize the base 3 starts at like 35 without incentives
ludicrous mode only adds 10k to the price of the p90d
it probably won't cost 60k+[/QUOTE]
He's not necessarily wrong if you don't count incentives.
We have 35K starting. Then another 5K or less for dual motor option, then 10K for Ludicrous mode. Finally, ludicrous mode doesn't seem to be available for the base battery on the S, so if we count the same we also need to pay more money for a larger battery, which puts us in a 55K or so ballpark for a ludicrous mode 3.
Then you can take away all the wonderful incentives and get it back down to something reasonable.
Best part is though, Tesla lets you add options after the fact. You could buy the car w/ dual motor option and then later on down the line when you can better afford it, pay another 10K for ludicrous mode.
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;50798126]Best part is though, Tesla lets you add options after the fact. You could buy the car w/ dual motor option and then later on down the line when you can better afford it, pay another 10K for ludicrous mode.[/QUOTE]
Only if you already have the performance model, which is already 20k more for the S. Might not be as steep of a price hike for the model 3, but it's more than possible that a fully tricked out model 3 will be in the mid 60k range.
Model S has like a 50+k price disparity depending on comfort features between base and fully tricked out. More once you include sales taxes and the like.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;50796899]I built one on their site and it was like $109,000[/QUOTE]
model 3 not s or x
[editline]29th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;50797962]The base S does not have ludicrous mode.
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Right, but it is still a nice car. And it is available now.
My point was a ludicrous model 3 is going to cost a hell of a lot more than the $35,000 of the base. At which point you're playing with an expensive car and if you have that kind of money you can just get tesla now. IE I doubt the model 3 will really bring ludicrous mode to a new customer base.
I feel like the $45,000 to $65,000 market really isn't different than the $65,000+ market. At that point you're still probably loaded and could afford the extra cost but just chose not to.
[editline]29th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50798036]ludicrous mode only adds 10k to the price of the p90d
it probably won't cost 60k+[/QUOTE]
[B]only[/B] 10k lmao that's good for an "affordable car" that starts at 35
also ludicrous mode is [I]only[/I] an option for the p90d, isn't it? So to just get the [I]option[/I] you're spending in the $100,000 range, not the base $70,000 range. So you see how it actually added 30k to the car, not 10k?
I feel that you people who keep harping on about how the model 3 is barely more expensive than the average car in America are completely failing to properly represent (or possibly understand) things. The [i]base[/i] model of a car is more expensive than the average price for a car, which includes plenty of mostly/fully tricked out vehicles. It also includes luxury cars that are well above that. The median price for a car is even lower than that.
Yes, the 3 will have some features bundled that are not typical of current cars, but it's still fantastically expensive compared to just getting a comparably sized sedan, and if it's anything like the S, will be more than a little spartan on other features.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50798314]model 3 not s or x
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Yeah, I was referring to the S, considering the model 3 base is $35k
But what's the point? I don't really get why car manufacturers make their vehicles able to reach speeds like this when you'll never get to that speed if you actually follow the fucking speed limit, like alot of people don't do...
You want the time to reach 70mph to be low so that you can easily and safely merge with flowing traffic. High top speeds is somewhat of a byproduct of a car that can accelerate and handle well. It's intended to be a quick luxury land barge.
The S and X aren't even really that fast. Quick, yes, but not fast. Because they have fixed gearing, the motors end up fighting themselves (electric motors at very high rpm fight their own magnetic field and start shitting out heat), and they end up at such ludicrous rpms that they'd rip themselves apart if they went higher. Notice how slowly the car accelerates past ~150kph ~100mph. That's the power curve of the electric motors falling off combined with the increasing wind resistance.
A car with the amount of power in an S/X could easily do 250 mph if that output could be utilized well. But there's no point, so they don't bother.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;50793781]Is that number right? That's $400 million in reservation money alone[/QUOTE]
came and spent, tooling up for the model 3 will probably cost a huge fortune more since they're building the big battery factory practically for it
[editline]30th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;50799619]You want the time to reach 70mph to be low so that you can easily and safely merge with flowing traffic. High top speeds is somewhat of a byproduct of a car that can accelerate and handle well. It's intended to be a quick luxury land barge.
The S and X aren't even really that fast. Quick, yes, but not fast. Because they have fixed gearing, the motors end up fighting themselves (electric motors at very high rpm fight their own magnetic field and start shitting out heat), and they end up at such ludicrous rpms that they'd rip themselves apart if they went higher. Notice how slowly the car accelerates past ~150kph ~100mph. That's the power curve of the electric motors falling off combined with the increasing wind resistance.
A car with the amount of power in an S/X could easily do 250 mph if that output could be utilized well. But there's no point, so they don't bother.[/QUOTE]
i believe that tesla limits the S and X to [I]only[/I] 160 mph because while the motor could do it, other components like brakes and tires could not go faster
Last I checked it was 155. Regardless the motors do start producing a lot of heat at those speeds. The inverter/battery pack also gets hot and has to throttle the maximum output until the temperatures get back under control. This is because the wind resistance is high enough to put a constant heavy tax on the battery, and while it can easily burst very high, it can't continuously put out high power due to internal resistance generating heat under heavy current loads. If you sustain those speeds for very long, you loose a sizeable portion of your ability to rapidly accelerate. This is also why it's a poor track car. It can only burst a few times before getting too hot.
I don't see why the tires couldn't handle it. There isn't any real difference between those and the wheels on high end sports cars. It's pretty much strictly limited to the motor RPMs. The fixed gearings have substantial stepdowns, and the motors are spinning at pretty ridiculous rpms.
[QUOTE=Sableye;50799657]came and spent, tooling up for the model 3 will probably cost a huge fortune more since they're building the big battery factory practically for it
[editline]30th July 2016[/editline]
i believe that tesla limits the S and X to [I]only[/I] 160 mph because while the motor could do it, other components like brakes and tires could not go faster[/QUOTE]
Tesla said they don't intend to spend the reservation money unless they really need to.
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