• Townhall protests against "Obamacare" turned into battle zones
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Throughout the country there has been an ever increasing number of protests against Obama's health care reform. Until now it has been generally peaceful, but things turned ugly in St. Louis MO and Tampa FL. Well, let's have you look at the news and see for yourself. from [url=http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/07/will-loud-violent-town-hall-protests-kill-health-care-reform/]CNN:[/url] [quote]The protests at town hall meetings on health care reform continue to get louder and more violent. One event in Tampa, Florida, got particularly ugly… with hecklers and people pushing and shoving. As the Democratic congresswoman addressed the crowd — people chanted “read the bill” and “tyranny.” Hundreds couldn’t even get into the meeting — as demonstrators on both side of the debate shouted at one other. In St. Louis — there are reports that six people were arrested after health care protests broke out at what was supposed to be a forum on aging held by a Democratic congressman. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was even at the center of about 200 protesters in Denver where she was visiting a homeless clinic. The crowd was loud, but orderly — about half supported the reform and half opposed it. Pelosi and other Democrats insist these protests at meetings sponsored by Democrats won’t derail health care reform once Congress gets back to work next month. Democrats have been accusing Republicans and special interest groups of orchestrating many of these demonstrations. Some liberal groups have started sending their own supporters detailed instructions on how to counter what they called organized disruptions. Republicans insist the opposition is legitimate and coming from the people. Conservative groups are telling their supporters where to find upcoming town hall meetings. They’re sending them confrontational questions to ask members of Congress… and chants and slogans to use when they get there.[/quote] From [url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/health-care-town-hall-turns-violent-tampa/]FOX[/url] [quote]Town hall meetings called to discuss proposed health care legislation turned violent Thursday, with a meeting in Tampa, Fla., descending into shouting and one in St. Louis ending in arrests. Close to 1,500 people came to the Tampa suburb of Ybor City to speak with Democratic State Rep. Betty Reed and U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor, an event that exploded into a near riot. According to local media reports, the larger-than-expected crowd gathered outside the Hillsborough County Children's Board building, where several hundred people, most of whom opposed a government health care plan, began to loudly chant and scuffle with organizers posted at doorways after the auditorium filled to capacity. A freelance videographer was roughed up in an altercation, which damaged his camera equipment and glasses, and at least one man was treated for minor injuries after a scuffle left his shirt partially torn from his body. "That's the most violent anyone has been towards me," Mark Bishop told WTSP-TV. "It was surprising, to say the least." In Mehlville, Mo., St. Louis police arrested six people, some on assault charges, outside another forum that was billed as a meeting on aging but was attended by activists on both sides of the health care debate. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the police showed up toward the end of the forum held by Democratic Rep. Russ Carnahan. One conservative activist, interviewed at a local emergency room where he was being treated for injuries, said he was attacked by some of the individuals who were arrested as he passed out "Don't tread on me" flags. A forum with Democratic Rep. John Dingell in Romulus, Mich., also got rowdy as foes and supporters of health care reform argued with each other and one man, with his son in a wheelchair, shouted at the congressman. A similar scene reportedly unfolded as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited a homeless clinic in Denver. In Tampa, video shot outside the auditorium showed several people holding signs and posters, banging on doors and windows, while others argued face-to-face and were seen screaming at one another in the parking lot as police looked on. Inside, Democratic lawmakers had a difficult time delivering their opening remarks, as they were met with shouts of "You work for us!'' "Tyranny! tyranny! tyranny!'' and "Read the bill!" the Tampa Tribune reported. As tensions rose further, Rep. Castor was escorted out of the town hall by police after Reed encouraged her to leave. "They're hiding from their constituents. She works for us and needs to listen,'' Karen Jaroch, a homemaker and organizer for the 9-12 Project told the Tribune. "We said all along our role was to come and give an update on the bill in Congress. That's what Betty Reed asked us to do ... and that's what we did," Castor's spokeswoman, Ellen Gedalius, was quoted as saying. Health care opponents said liberal organizers had tried to allow early admission to those who were seen as favorable to legislation making its way through Congress. Reed denied the accusations, saying those brought in were organizers helping to set up the town hall. "I represent a number of people who ask questions about what's going on with health care, so I thought it would be good to put on a meeting and have the congresswoman come in and give an update," Reed told the Tribune. "When you get to the point of possible violence, you've gone over the edge." Top White House officials counseled Democratic senators Thursday on coping with disruptions at public events on health care this summer, officials said, and promised the party and allies would respond with twice the force if any individual lawmaker is criticized in television advertising. In the week since the House began its break, several town hall-style meetings have been disrupted by noisy demonstrators. These episodes have drawn widespread media attention, and Republicans have seized on them as well as polls showing a decline in support for President Obama and his agenda as evidence that public support is lacking for his signature legislation. About 20 protesters gathered in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., Thursday to let Democratic Rep. Scott Murphy know they oppose the health care plans in Washington. They carried signs saying: "Obamacare Seniors beware! Rationing is here," and "If socialized medicine is best ... why didn't Ted Kennedy go to Canada?" Motorists honked as they drove by. Kennedy is battling brain cancer. So far, three House committees have approved health care legislation, and a measure is expected on the floor this fall. One committee has acted, and a bipartisan group of senators on the Finance Committee has been at work for weeks trying to draft a compromise plan.[/quote] [url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/SEIU-Head-denounces-terrorist-tactics-of-the-Right-day-after-alleged-SEIU-assault-on-conservative-52683602.html]Another article about irony[/url] from YouTube [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4F_cb9AXk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2009%2F08%2F07%2Fhealth-care-town-hall-turns-violent-tampa%2F&feature=player_embedded[/media] I have a bad feeling about this one.
What the hell is Obamacare? That's just stupid, it doesn't even sound bad, it sounds comfortable. Anyway, again partisan politics gets in the way of actual business. I predict Obamacare will be so controversial and fought about that people will just say "forget it" and we'll have the same healthcare crisis anyway.
Looks like Obamacare is turning into an [i]Obamassacre.[/i]
Good, we can't afford this shitty plan anyways. The less government control, the better.
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16552711]Looks like Obamacare is turning into an [i]Obamassacre.[/i][/QUOTE] :colbert:
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;16552769]Good, we can't afford this shitty plan anyways. The less government control, the better.[/QUOTE] :allears:
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;16552769]Good, we can't afford this shitty plan anyways. The less government control, the better.[/QUOTE] :smug: [editline]02:52AM[/editline] ITT: Emote-only replies
I'm a bit lost here. Someone care to throw Obama's plan in a nutshell so I can understand what all this fucking fuss is about?
Would someone explain to Facepunch what the flying fuck "Obamacare" is?
[QUOTE=FPSDars;16552910]I'm a bit lost here. Someone care to throw Obama's plan in a nutshell so I can understand what all this fucking fuss is about?[/QUOTE] obama's plan is communist, socialist, European and will cause us to suck Chinese dick for 3000 years or so i've heard
[QUOTE=thisispain;16552819]:allears:[/QUOTE] :smugdog:
[QUOTE=FPSDars;16552910]I'm a bit lost here. Someone care to throw Obama's plan in a nutshell so I can understand what all this fucking fuss is about?[/QUOTE] Seconded, reading this from across the atlantic. This is melting my brain. [QUOTE=thisispain;16552926]obama's plan is communist, socialist, European and will cause us to suck Chinese dick for 3000 years or so i've heard[/QUOTE] And now a proper answer?
[QUOTE=FPSDars;16552910]I'm a bit lost here. Someone care to throw Obama's plan in a nutshell so I can understand what all this fucking fuss is about?[/QUOTE] Great Minds Think Alike.
republicans gave me nightmares when I was a kid they still kind of do
[QUOTE=thisispain;16552926]obama's plan is communist, socialist, European and will cause us to suck Chinese dick for 3000 years or so i've heard[/QUOTE] Finally, someone who see's it like I do! [editline]10:57PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Termy58;16552959]republicans gave me nightmares when I was a kid they still kind of do[/QUOTE] I give you nightmares? Good.
Well us republicans finally have something to complain about after a night of drinking.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;16553006]Well us republicans finally have something to complain about after a night of drinking.[/QUOTE] :fuckyou: [editline]08:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Cluckyx;16552931] And now a proper answer?[/QUOTE] no
[QUOTE=thisispain;16552926]obama's plan is communist, socialist, European and will cause us to suck Chinese dick for 3000 years or so i've heard[/QUOTE] I think you forgot that it instills Nazism into the US. And kills kittens.
Oh no 200 protestors. The US's communist party could gather a bigger number (that's pretty bad) this isn't going to turn into very much
You know the funny thing is that all of these protests are orchestrated by big groups funded entirely by Koch Industries, the world's largest oil corporations, in fact, many of the people in the crowds worked for the Bush administration and other things that make them anything BUT regular American citizens, which is actually worse because you'd expect average American citizens to be stupid and misinformed. It pays to watch Rachael Maddow, the best show of its type around. [editline]10:34PM[/editline] Bu bu it keeeeeeels old peoplez bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww jesus [editline]10:35PM[/editline] obemas a muuuuhslem
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553500]You know the funny thing is that all of these protests are orchestrated by big groups funded entirely by Koch Industries, the world's largest oil corporations, in fact, many of the people in the crowds worked for the Bush administration and other things that make them anything BUT regular American citizens, which is actually worse because you'd expect average American citizens to be stupid and misinformed. It pays to watch Rachael Maddow, the best show of its type around.[/QUOTE] Yeah, she's not that bad, it's just that she comes from the same line of "Entertainment over Journalism".
show me a birt hcefiricat And like I said she's better than most "journalists" in the type of show she has.
Wares da birf certificate obayma
In Kenya, were all the terrists are.
[QUOTE=Chippay;16553553]Wares da birf certificate obayma[/QUOTE] don't be silly of course he was born in america it's just that he's an evil communist
[QUOTE=thisispain;16553571]don't be silly of course he was born in america it's just that he's an evil communist[/QUOTE] Stop fucking trolling every thread you see. Lol.
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;16552711]Looks like Obamacare is turning into an [i]Obamassacre.[/i][/QUOTE] This is an [I]Obamanation.[/I]
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;16552769]Good, we can't afford this shitty plan anyways. The less government control, the better.[/QUOTE] For once, we are in agreement.
Obama is actually a Socialist which "is somewhere between our democracy like we have and like, fascism like the nazis and terrorists have and communism or something" according to an attender of a McCain campaign rally.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16553632]For once, we are in agreement.[/QUOTE] Since when have you ever disagreed with me? Oh, you thought I was Sigma-Lambda.
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