• Judge fines pot grower $1 per plant for 30 cannabis plants
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[QUOTE] One day last week, the main Gatineau courthouse was buzzing with a judge’s ruling, a loonie sentence that says much about marijuana’s road to respectability. A man was before Justice Pierre Chevalier charged with cultivating 30 pot plants. The Crown was looking for a sentence of 90 days in jail. The judge had a different idea. He fined the accused, Mario Larouche, $1, throwing in a victim surcharge of 30 cents. Justice Chevalier called Canada’s cannabis laws “outdated and ridiculous” and pointed directly at the intentions of the new Liberal government of Justin Trudeau to legalize and regulate the use of marijuana. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Eugene Oscapella is a University of Ottawa professor experienced in the area of drug policy. He, too, heard about the judgment. “It’s unusual for judges to speak out that dramatically,” he said Tuesday. “I suspect the judge is saying out loud what many other judges are muttering under their breath.”[/QUOTE] Personally, I find this a little funny. The article is originally from the Ottawa Citizen, not from the Calgary Herald. edit: The title isn't updating for me, so he only paid $1 for 30 plants not $30 for 30 plants sorry bout that. Source: [url]http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ottawa/egan+judge+fines+grower+plants+mocks+27ridiculous/11558167/story.html[/url]
If it were in the states he'd probably be left to rot in jail like a murderer
Big respect to a judge who's able to make history rather than repeat it.
They seriously wanted 90 days?
[QUOTE=ZpankR;49235016]If it were in the states he'd probably be left to rot in jail like a murderer[/QUOTE] It really depends on the judge [editline]3rd December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Kyle902;49235090]They seriously wanted 90 days?[/QUOTE] But zpankr is right, 90 days is more than the minimum youd get here for 30 plants. For 30 plants in the US they would charge you with intent to distribute and a bunch of other bullshit
[QUOTE=ZpankR;49235016]If it were in the states he'd probably be left to rot in jail like a murderer[/QUOTE] Depends on the state too. Elsewhere in the world it might get u the death penalty.
It's a fucking plant, you don't bother people who tend their garden but yeah that's the world we live in. Good on the judge for not fining him.
[QUOTE=Satansick;49235242]It's a fucking plant, you don't bother people who tend their garden but yeah that's the world we live in. Good on the judge for not fining him.[/QUOTE] Uhh.. people who're tending to their garden probably aren't growing cannabis.
"Justice Chevalier called Canada’s cannabis laws “outdated and ridiculous” and pointed directly at the intentions of the new Liberal government of Justin Trudeau to legalize and regulate the use of marijuana." It's not the role of judges to enforce policy that is not yet given by the Government nor legislated. If this was Australia, this judge would likely get reprimanded by the Attorney-General of the relevant jurisdiction.
[QUOTE=iNothing;49235306]Uhh.. people who're tending to their garden probably aren't growing cannabis.[/QUOTE] Well I mean my great-aunt did accidentally plant some "tomato seeds" one time... Thing got about 1.5-feet tall before someone told her it wasn't a tomato plant. :v:
[QUOTE=DogGunn;49235482]"Justice Chevalier called Canada’s cannabis laws “outdated and ridiculous” and pointed directly at the intentions of the new Liberal government of Justin Trudeau to legalize and regulate the use of marijuana." It's not the role of judges to enforce policy that is not yet given by the Government nor legislated. If this was Australia, this judge would likely get reprimanded by the Attorney-General of the relevant jurisdiction.[/QUOTE] It's not Australia though so it's ok.
[QUOTE=Maximo13;49235772]It's not Australia though so it's ok.[/QUOTE] No, but they have similar legal systems. I would be surprised if the judge didn't get reprimanded anyway.
So does that mean I can start growing my own weed plants now?
[QUOTE=bilbasio;49235961]So does that mean I can start growing my own weed plants now?[/QUOTE] Given the fact that they were still looking to give him 90 days in the can, I would say not yet.
[QUOTE=Satansick;49235242]It's a fucking plant, you don't bother people who tend their garden but yeah that's the world we live in. Good on the judge for not fining him.[/QUOTE] lmao its illegal
I'm curious what the fucking hold up is. If Trudeau doesn't move fast more and more people are going to be jailed and their lives fucked up.
And then the judge smoked it all? :v:
[QUOTE=DogGunn;49235482]If this was Australia, this judge would likely get reprimanded by the Attorney-General of the relevant jurisdiction.[/QUOTE] But thankfully, it's not.
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[QUOTE=Kannata;49236011]lmao its illegal[/QUOTE] so is jaywalking
and filling your own gas in oregon
[QUOTE=Megadave;49236222]I'm curious what the fucking hold up is. If Trudeau doesn't move fast more and more people are going to be jailed and their lives fucked up.[/QUOTE] We'll probably hear something within 1-2 weeks at the earliest, the new speaker is being elected this afternoon: [url]http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-isnt-the-only-thing-thats-back-parliament-to-resume-with-election-of-speaker-today[/url]
lots of itty bitty funny things are illegal, and we do it all the time hoverboards are now illegal in NYC but its not really enforced that often(yet) because of how many people are using it
[QUOTE=ZpankR;49235016]If it were in the states he'd probably be left to rot in jail like a murderer[/QUOTE] Ehhh that really depends on where you live in the US. Up here in NorCal the police are so lax about weed that it's virtually legal, since much of the economy up here depends on medical marijuana
[QUOTE=aznz888;49236654]lots of itty bitty funny things are illegal, and we do it all the time hoverboards are now illegal in NYC but its not really enforced that often(yet) because of how many people are using it[/QUOTE] You're right, jaywalking and growing 30 plants of weed are on the same level.
[QUOTE=Kannata;49236011]lmao its illegal[/QUOTE] So is painting your house in Sweden if you don't have a painting license, doesn't mean the law isn't retarded and shouldn't have existed in the first place. [editline]3rd December 2015[/editline] It's also not illegal where I live, so while you may appreciate your ass-backwards laws, we're looking to progress, not regress.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;49235090]They seriously wanted 90 days?[/QUOTE] If Harper was still in office mandatory minimums would've meant the guy had a minimum of six months. A few things for non-Canadians to keep in mind: 1) The previous government took an unpopular, hardline prohibitionist stance and even turned the federal health ministry into an anti-marijuana propaganda mouthpiece benefitting the Prime Minister's partisan political messaging. 2) Said previous government was spanked hard and kicked out of office in the election in favour of Trudeau, who campaigned on a platform that included marijuana legalization. Trudeau has promised to follow through but has stated, quite correctly, that it will take time to make the changes, and the government is not looking to rush the changes through as fast as possible. It will likely be a year before the law can be fully changed over, and probably longer where it comes to the various elements of law regarding dispensaries and selling it commercially. 3) Public opinion was and remains in majority support for marijuana decriminalization/legalization before and after the election, meaning the current government can be said to have been elected with a mandate to legalize marijuana. 4) The role of a judge is to judicially enforce the law in order to protect the public. Sending someone to jail for 3-6 months for growing some pot to self-medicate [I]harms[/I] the community and drains significant amounts of taxpayer money. I think this judge is not in danger of any serious career-altering reprimands for simply issuing a ruling that says what everyone is thinking. Now, if the guy was also a violent gang member and had a criminal record, I suspect the ruling would not have been the same. This is the judge going, "Why is this fucker even standing in front of me? This is ridiculous, but it's still the law so I can't dismiss his case outright."
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;49237236]You're right, jaywalking and growing 30 plants of weed are on the same level.[/QUOTE] they're both just about as harmless actually i think jaywalking is probably more dangerous
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;49237236]You're right, jaywalking and growing 30 plants of weed are on the same level.[/QUOTE] Jay walking is actually much more dangerous. What exactly is so bad about growing cannabis? And don't just say "it's illegal", give me an actual reason.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;49237578]Jay walking is actually much more dangerous. What exactly is so bad about growing cannabis? And don't just say "it's illegal", give me an actual reason.[/QUOTE] The smell, possibility of gang ability and all that "War on Drugs & Terror" stuff. I think it wouldn't affect me but I wouldn't mind if they implemented regulation upon legalization that allowed people living around the neighborhood to know about them being around. A big argument is how far away from schools it can be for dispensary's maybe it would require you to own a property further away from institutions like Public Schools, Liquor Stores, Bars etc. Well it's up in the air, I'm glad that more people from inside our jurisdictions are taking a step toward legalization by supporting it as it would help our economy by bringing in jobs, but we can't tax it too much or people would just stay with their regular drug dealers. Things like these are of concern, perhaps if prices stayed competitive like Denver, Colorado things would be better off toward eliminating the need for people to become drug dealers to support their habits or living expenses or other reasons they deal cannabis for. Thing's get hectic because you can get various variants of cannabis in B.C. for insanely low prices so being competitive is a key factor in gaining people to spend money toward our government instead of circumventing the money to criminal organizations. That's just my two cents though.
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