[QUOTE]A Muslim man has died in western India after he was attacked by hundreds of Hindu cow protection vigilantes, the latest attack in a spate of mob killings in the name of the revered animal.[/QUOTE]
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Gangs of “cow protectors” have been implicated in killing at least 10 people in the past two years as the welfare of the animal has become an increasingly charged issue in Indian politics.
Cows are revered by most of India’s majority Hindu community and beef consumption is permitted in only eight of the country’s 29 states and territories.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Cattle slaughter has become a prominent issue again in the past month after Modi’s party selected a Hindu monk (Yogi Adithyanath) with a history of incendiary remarks about minorities to run the country’s most populous state.
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[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/muslim-man-dies-in-india-after-attack-by-hindu-cow-protectors[/url]
A lot of these kind of violence occured after the 'Hindu terrorist monk' became India's political head. People even get beaten up by mobs for shooing away cows that barged in their house and poop on their floor. If they suspect you having cow meat in your home then you're done.
The 'incendiary remarks' involves Adithyanath making faces everytime he went passed by Muslim mosques and said that he would fill the mosques with Hindu idol if given the chance. Also made a remarks that 'he would kill 100 Muslim for every Hindu killed, and take 100 women for every Hindu women taken'.
GG
Absurd.
Even if you were an animal rights activist, I don't see how you can blame people for not wanting cows to barge into their homes and shit on their floor.
banning beef on religious grounds to appease the majority really undermines secularism, I couldn't believe it when my dad told me that was a thing
In any proper country, a teaching of a religion is only enforced on the people people embracing that particular religion. But the Hindu terrorist seems to hammer their religion even on people that is not of their religion.
Reminds me of the shit storm one of the Indian actresses got into for shooting a video of a dish with meat that looked like beef. It went viral on Indian social media, she got death threats, etc., so she deleted the video/post and put out a statement saying it's buffalo meat, not beef as a clarification.
Shit is crazy in India.
[URL]http://www.spotboye.com/bollywood/news/kajol-steps-away-from-beef-controversy-says-she-ate-buffalo-meat/59073f9c4e4b886116174a01[/URL]
Huh, I always thought that the whole "sacred cow" thing was just an old joke from Tintin or some shit.
What do these people think of the US where almost everyone eats cow.
I have a burger myself at least once a week. Not to mention taco's, steaks, or any other assortment of food that could come from a cow.
One of these days somebody should go to India and kill as many cows as they can.
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[QUOTE=Richoxen;52190381]What do these people think of the US where almost everyone eats cow.
I have a burger myself at least once a week.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry. Hindus in India have tendency to respect and revere whie men. To them, they're basically the next stage of evolutionary step. Even Bollywood actors would try to adopt western behaviour and more whitish skin color in accordance to that conception. So they would never harm a single white men, only weak black minority muslim in India.
This might sounds like I'm spouting malignant racist opinion, but sadly it's a fact.
[QUOTE=kylejburke;52190391]One of these days somebody should go to India and kill as many cows as they can.[/QUOTE]
And what would this accomplish?
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52190396]Don't worry. Hindus in India have tendency to respect and revere whie men. To them, they're basically the next stage of evolutionary step. Even Bollywood actors would try to adopt western behaviour and more whitish skin color in accordance to that conception. So they would never harm a single white men, only weak black minority muslim in India.
This might sounds like I'm spouting malignant racist opinion, but sadly it's a fact.[/QUOTE]
What if you're an american who's not white?
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52189976]People even get beaten up by mobs for shooing away cows that barged in their house and poop on their floor.[/QUOTE]
this part is strange to me because everywhere I went in India, shop owners and street vendors carried big bamboo sticks they used to shoo away cows and monkeys, and nobody ever batted an eye when a cow got a good whack for being nosy.
[QUOTE=artDecor;52190541]What if you're an american who's not white?[/QUOTE]
Less revered but still revered nonetheless. Westerners essentially have celebrity status there but definitely the paler the skin = more interest
Like I understand the cow is a highly respected animal within there religion, but surely the life of a human should override that in this regard given Hinduism believes killing any animal is a sin and humans ARE animals, essentially this murder is an obstruction of what Hindus believe to be the natural cycle of birth and death, which again, totally a sin.
Lets all avenge his death today by eating some juicy cow beef.
[QUOTE=153x;52190595]this part is strange to me because everywhere I went in India, shop owners and street vendors carried big bamboo sticks they used to shoo away cows and monkeys, and nobody ever batted an eye when a cow got a good whack for being nosy.
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Probably it's okay for Hindus to do it, but not for Muslim.
It's probably like how its okay for African American to call each other 'nigga', but not okay if white people said it. Or maybe some regions are more radical than others.
I dont know lol. Anybody from India here can clarify?
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52191509]Probably it's okay for Hindus to do it, but not for Muslim.
It's probably like how its okay for African American to call each other 'nigga', but not okay if white people said it. Or maybe some regions are more radical than others.
I dont know lol. Anybody from India here can clarify?[/QUOTE]
From India originally here. I think that Hindus have a beef (heh) with killing and eating cows for some religious reason, but when they're being nuisances they don't have a problem with using sticks to ward them off. Not unlike ranchers in other countries use electrified fences to keep cattle penned.
What you've got here is an example of a large group of nutjobs emboldened by a government that has clearly favoured one religious group over another.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52192701]From India originally here. I think that Hindus have a beef (heh) with killing and eating cows for some religious reason, but when they're being nuisances they don't have a problem with using sticks to ward them off. Not unlike ranchers in other countries use electrified fences to keep cattle penned.
What you've got here is an example of a large group of nutjobs emboldened by a government that has clearly favoured one religious group over another.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing in particular in the holy texts that specifically says that eating beef is wrong, though. Down south from my home state of Kerala, eating beef is actually very popular - hell, one of my our most legendary dishes [I]is[/I] beef fry and parottas:
[IMG]http://lh6.ggpht.com/-GC4XyLKO9ZU/UTO21nh0XBI/AAAAAAAAL20/SOTsZKJ3Df0/Parotta%252520n%252520Beef%25252011_thumb%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800[/IMG]
As archangel said, what you're seeing is the RSS, best buddies of the BJP, going hogwild with more or less free reign since the BJP came to power. Rather than bother to fix things, it's easier for them to get the public to rally behind some bullshit religious crusade to distract them. The government stays silent in its complicity as well - the reason is is happening is a massive tilt in the scale. One of the biggest beefs (heh :v:) with the former ruling coalition headed by the Congress was the fact that they'd be focused on appeasing the minorities with sops and subsidies, at the expense of the Hindu majority, which they took as a slight and highly unfair. The expectation of the BJP ruled government (and by extension, a resurgence of power in the RSS) was that Hindus would finally get "their fair share".
That's not all, though - the "Gau Rakshaks" are just the tip of the iceberg. We now have, I shit you not, "Anti Romeo Squads" that roam around the countryside in villages of Uttar Pradesh, beating up unmarried couples or people they suspect are in a romantic entanglement. In other words, moral policing, something the Taliban and Saudi's own Mutaween would be proud of. :unimpressed:
A large portion of the middle classes were prepared for a certain degree of such religion fueled nonsense. What no one else was prepared for was that now, more than ever, the middle classes are essentially fucked over with taxes to cover for the free subsidies that are liberally given to the poor which are mostly abused while the rich essentially walk away scot free. The recent Demonetization had no real net effect and instead allowed the banks to quietly usher in a set of fees to have you pay them for services that were previously free. For example, we now need to pay to use ATM's, regardless of whether it's the home bank or 3rd party ATM (it only used to be for third party ATM's). Hell, we need to actually pay to deposit our own cash in the bank now.
I'm secretly glad that I'm leaving this country because societal change will not happen during my lifetime, my children's lifetime or even great-grandchildren's lifetime. They will continue to thump their chests and talk about India being a superpower, accuse me of being a standard "self loathing Indian" and try to claim credit for even the things that they had no part of, for e.g. the success of Non Resident Indians (NRI)'s or even second generation folks of Indian origin. It's...just not worth it.
Glad to hear it's only the works of radical minorities.
In Malaysia too (which have multicultural people, Indian is one of the major group), we never heard anybody beaten up for cow-eating.
But it's scary to see the effect of corruption reach even religions.
boy, i hope that these people don't know that hamburgers is one of the most popular meals in the world
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52190396]Don't worry. Hindus in India have tendency to respect and revere whie men. To them, they're basically the next stage of evolutionary step. Even Bollywood actors would try to adopt western behaviour and more whitish skin color in accordance to that conception. So they would never harm a single white men, only weak black minority muslim in India.
This might sounds like I'm spouting malignant racist opinion, but sadly it's a fact.[/QUOTE]
Skin whitening is a staggering $10billion a year industry.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52190396][I][B]Don't worry. Hindus in India have tendency to respect and revere whie men.[/B][/I] To them, they're basically the next stage of evolutionary step. Even Bollywood actors would try to adopt western behaviour and more whitish skin color in accordance to that conception. So they would never harm a single white men, only weak black minority muslim in India.
This might sounds like I'm spouting malignant racist opinion, but sadly it's a fact.[/QUOTE]
Actually, that, I can say with certainty, is a load of bullshit. You ought to try telling Hindus in India that. If you're very lucky, you'll walk away unscathed if they're feeling charitable and take pity on you.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52193477]Actually, that, I can say with certainty, is a load of bullshit. You ought to try telling Hindus in India that. If you're very lucky, you'll walk away unscathed if they're feeling charitable and take pity on you.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps that's only in certain states because I'm as pasty white as can be and I was treated like a celebrity. Everywhere I went people wanted to take photos with me and talk to me in English
[QUOTE=153x;52193851]Perhaps that's only in certain states because I'm as pasty white as can be and I was treated like a celebrity. Everywhere I went people wanted to take photos with me and talk to me in English[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between fascination at a tourist from an unusual country, and 'respect and revere'. If anything, I've encountered a general sentiment of resentment towards the English for their exploitation of the country and its resources during the Colonial era.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52195098]There's a difference between fascination at a tourist from an unusual country, and 'respect and revere'. If anything, I've encountered a general sentiment of resentment towards the English for their exploitation of the country and its resources during the Colonial era.[/QUOTE]
bullshit, I spent 4 months in India travelling. I never once spoke to a single Indian that had any resentment towards the British. In fact a few of the educated Indians I spoke to actually expressed regret at the British leaving.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52195098]There's a difference between fascination at a tourist from an unusual country, and 'respect and revere'. If anything, I've encountered a general sentiment of resentment towards the English for their exploitation of the country and its resources during the Colonial era.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52195276]bullshit, I spent 4 months in India travelling. I never once spoke to a single Indian that had any resentment towards the British. In fact a few of the educated Indians I spoke to actually expressed regret at the British leaving.[/QUOTE]
This is why we use statistical instead of anecdotal evidence
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52195276]bullshit, I spent 4 months in India travelling. I never once spoke to a single Indian that had any resentment towards the British. In fact a few of the educated Indians I spoke to actually expressed regret at the British leaving.[/QUOTE]
These would be the same ones who are also stupidly naive enough to believe in the concept of a "benevolent dictator", think that Colonial English built a railway system for our benefit (it was really to stripmine our country of resources faster and more efficiently) and who completely ignore the fact that it was Winston Churchill who was responsible for one of the countries greatest famines. Actual quote from the guy you have on your 5 pound bills:
[QUOTE=Winston Churchill]"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.[/QUOTE]
Also:
[QUOTE]In 1943, India, then still a British possession, experienced a disastrous famine in the north-eastern region of Bengal - sparked by the Japanese occupation of Burma the year before.
At least three million people are believed to have died - and Churchill's actions, or lack thereof, have been the subject of criticism.
Madhusree Mukerjee, author of Churchill's Secret War, has said that despite refusing to meet India's need for wheat, he continued to insist that it exported rice to fuel the war effort.
"[B][The War Cabinet] ordered the build-up of a stockpile of wheat for feeding European civilians after they had been liberated. So 170,000 tons of Australian wheat bypassed starving India - destined not for consumption but for storage," she said upon release of the book in 2010.[/B]
Churchill even appeared to blame the Indians for the famine, claiming they "breed like rabbits".
"It's one of the worst blots on his record," says Toye. "It clearly is the case that it was difficult for people to get him to take the issue seriously."
"Churchill viewed it as a distraction," he explains. Preoccupied with battling Germany in Europe, Churchill didn't want to be bothered by it when people raised the issue.
"We have this image of Churchill being far-sighted and prophetic," says Charmley. "But what he does tragically in the case of the Bengal famine is show absolutely zero advance [since] the Irish famine 100 years earlier."[/QUOTE]
3 million people died - that's half a Holocaust caused by a man who viewed it as a triviality.
I don't have any such animosity towards the England of today, but towards the old British Empire? Fuck yeah, I do. They wrecked us and walked away from the mess and nobody's really talked about reparations.
"literate" != "educated". Any sane Indian would only need to talk to their elders to find out the horrors of British rule - "Dogs and Indians not allowed", etc.
I think, based on what I've seen in my country, there's a contradiction between conscious and subconscious opinion of the people towards British Empire.
Consciously, we're aware that the British and other western colonialist action is not something that we condone wholeheartedly, because of reasons. So we don't revere them in that aspect. They are the invaders that are not to be loved.
But subconsiously, due to centuries of being conquered and colonialized, the people accidentally develop sort of 'respect' towards white men, because since they came they have been positioned on the higher strata of the kingdom/country/government. Coupled that with tv/media that shows the amazing feats of white men in their movies, it form sort of cultural empirialism that last till today.
[QUOTE=IKTM;52190355]Huh, I always thought that the whole "sacred cow" thing was just an old joke from Tintin or some shit.[/QUOTE]
I personally thought it was a major thing until I saw my real leather wallet with the "Made in India" tag on it.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;52197107]I think, based on what I've seen in my country, there's a contradiction between conscious and subconscious opinion of the people towards British Empire.
Consciously, we're aware that the British and other western colonialist action is not something that we condone wholeheartedly, because of reasons. So we don't revere them in that aspect. They are the invaders that are not to be loved.
But subconsiously, due to centuries of being conquered and colonialized, the people accidentally develop sort of 'respect' towards white men, because since they came they have been positioned on the higher strata of the kingdom/country/government. Coupled that with tv/media that shows the amazing feats of white men in their movies, it form sort of cultural empirialism that last till today.[/QUOTE]
Again, horseshit. Got proof?
The stuff you're spouting is borderline stormfront material. Realize it or not, you're claiming that Indians aren't as intelligent as other people - Or that they're some sort of hivemind. Get out more. Meet and talk to the people you're generalizing. Pseudo-scientific nonsense doesn't impress anyone.
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