• Greeks running out of medical supplies: Golden Dawn proposes an innovative solution
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[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/12/golden-dawn-hospital-immigrants-greece[/url] [quote] In an atmosphere that has become increasingly electric before Greece's crucial election, the far-right Golden Dawn has ratcheted up the rhetoric by threatening to remove immigrants and their children from hospitals and kindergartens. Earning loud applause at an election campaign rally in Athens, Golden Dawn MP Ilias Panagiotaros said: "If Chrysi Avgi [Golden Dawn] gets into parliament [as polls predict], it will carry out raids on hospitals and kindergartens and it will throw immigrants and their children out on the street so that Greeks can take their place." Medical supplies and beds at some hospitals are running desperately short. The governor of the state-run Nikea hospital, Theodoros Roupas, called on doctors to stop non-essential surgical interventions because of a critical shortage of gloves, syringes and gauze. The order was revoked when Roupas found emergency supplies later in the day. "The situation is really critical and getting worse every day," said Dr Panaghiotis Papanikolaou, a neurosurgeon at the hospital. "There is not enough medical staff to cope and huge shortages of supplies. There's no money to even service scanners and surgical microscopes … we're talking about a major healthcare crisis – not in the making, it is happening now." The paralysis spawned by six weeks of political instability following Greece's indecisive poll on 6 May has exacerbated the country's parlous public finances. Sunday's fresh general election is viewed as decisive for the county's future in the euro. Alexis Tsipras, leader of the leftwing Syriza alliance, said it was obvious that Greece's rudderless state could no longer continue. A government had to be formed. "The country has to have a government, be it of the right or left," he said. Syriza is neck and neck with the conservative New Democracy party. "The next 10 days following the election are extremely important," he said referring to a host of critical EU meetings, including an emergency summit scheduled at the end of the month. He said the forthcoming vote would boil down to a single choice – whether Greeks wanted to support or reject the "memorandum" of onerous terms demanded by the EU and IMF in return for financial assistance. "Greeks should know that, if Syriza is elected, there will be no memorandum on Monday," he said. "Syriza will replace the memorandum with a national plan of recovery … I think we have been totally clear." He said Syriza would ensure that minimum wages were increased, unemployment benefits extended and the public sector expanded. Tsipras and his colleagues attempted to brush off the shock defection of Nikos Hanias, Syriza's candidate in Corinth. In an excoriating letter, the veteran leftist lambasted the party, saying its elevation to power "if only for an hour" would be catastrophic "for Greece and our children". "It is shameful and dishonourable that, by exploiting the justified rage of society, you are gambling with our future, betting on the non-existent possibility that our creditors are bluffing without proposing something if the case is the contrary," Hanias wrote. He said he could no longer participate in a party that was "extremely dangerous for the Greek people and its future". Conceding that Syriza was a conglomeration of parties "with many tendencies," Tsipras suggested the extraordinary outburst was linked to campaign dirty tricks. Hanias, who failed to be elected in last month's inconclusive election, had previously been a member of the socialist Pasok before joining the leftwing coalition. "I want to say that we are ready for everything, and to see everything. When a system of power sees the ground slipping from underneath it, it can do anything," said Tsipras. [/quote] This is starting to sound somewhat more morbid now that a major party is wanting to throw people out of hospitals and might actually gain the power to do so given the current situation.
Democracy can be a frightening thing in the hands of desperate people.
that doesn't really solve the problem of low medical supplies. in fact it does literally nothing for the problem at all, it just adds a wonderfully racist edge to the problem. nationalism is a cancer that if not controlled, will eat away at greek society.
isn't one of their politicians on the run from the cops for assaulting some reporter
[QUOTE=mac338;36328322]Democracy can be a frightening thing in the hands of desperate people.[/QUOTE] I read that in Sagan's voice, thanks mang.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;36328801]isn't one of their politicians on the run from the cops for assaulting some reporter[/QUOTE] Nah, [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/11/golden-dawn-politician-athens-court]he's suing the victims[/url]
Another solution would to have not driven your country into the ground.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36328960]Another solution would to have not driven your country into the ground.[/QUOTE] That's the fault of the former government; not all the Greek people that are suffering.
Kinda wondering why immigrants are even staying, looks like shit has really hit the fan.
I don't get how we can still consider democracy the best form of government when parties like this are voted into parliaments
The Golden Dawn, as in the occultist secret society Golden Dawn?
[QUOTE=Scar;36329964]I don't get how we can still consider democracy the best form of government when parties like this are voted into parliaments[/QUOTE]It's shit, but the others are worse.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;36330036]It's shit, but the others are worse.[/QUOTE] Meh, I consider technocracy the best form of government, but it's probably just a matter of opinion. You Xeno Commie scum you
"The Golden Dawn" sounds like some sort of evil faction you would find in an RTS game. The stuff they want to do isn't surprising either.
[QUOTE=Lamar;36330069]"The Golden Dawn" sounds like some sort of evil faction you would find in an RTS game. The stuff they want to do isn't surprising either.[/QUOTE] Has some "Cult-like" ring to it, doesn't it?
Innovative? How predictable.
[QUOTE=Scar;36330126]Has some "Cult-like" ring to it, doesn't it?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn[/url]
Fucking nazis. I seriously hope it doesn't come to rise as a powerful faction inside the Greek political system or there will be a shitstorm none of us can imagine.
How predictably fascist. It would almost be kind of amusing if they weren't actually proposing it.
I was expecting something along the lines of "Kill all the Jews" and I was not disappointed.
How WWIII begins. This is exactly how shit started in Germany. Twice.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36330278]How WWIII begins. This is exactly how shit started in Germany. Twice.[/QUOTE] Twice?
[QUOTE=Scar;36330345]Twice?[/QUOTE] Yes, we have had two world wars.
But the first didn't start like that
[QUOTE=Lankist;36330278]How WWIII begins. This is exactly how shit started in Germany. Twice.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but Germany had rebuilt itself to a leading military power before WWII, not to mention having prime territory smack in the middle of western europe. Greece is a failing, debt-ridden, militarily weak shithole in the Mediterranean. I doubt we have any hostile takeovers to worry about. Not to say more shit could go down in Greece itself, but I think the rest of the world is safe from Golden Dawn's shenanigans.
[QUOTE=Lamar;36330069]"The Golden Dawn" sounds like some sort of evil faction you would find in an RTS game. The stuff they want to do isn't surprising either.[/QUOTE] A few months ago I started writing a short story entitled "Golden Dawn" about going back in time and killing Hitler. Kind of ironic now, isn't it?
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;36330559]Yeah, but Germany had rebuilt itself to a leading military power before WWII, not to mention having prime territory smack in the middle of western europe. Greece is a failing, debt-ridden, militarily weak shithole in the Mediterranean. I doubt we have any hostile takeovers to worry about. Not to say more shit could go down in Greece itself, but I think the rest of the world is safe from Golden Dawn's shenanigans.[/QUOTE] unless the rise of it inspires others in debtor nations to rise up and form their own fascist shitholes which all merge to become the Mediterranean axis of evil.
[QUOTE=DeathDoom;36330820]A few months ago I started writing a short story entitled "Golden Dawn" [b]about going back in time and killing Hitler.[/b] Kind of ironic now, isn't it?[/QUOTE] Vermin Supreme and Ron Paul already did that, sorry.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;36330907]Vermin Supreme and Ron Paul already did that, sorry.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know that the concept isn't entirely original. I never finished it; it was supposed to have more to do with me experimenting with the medium and story telling with an unreliable narrator than actually focusing on the story, though.
RIP greek democracy
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