UK Home Secretary Approves Extradition to the US on Copyright Infringement
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-17355203[/url]
[quote]Home Secretary Theresa May has approved the extradition to the US of a student accused of copyright infringement.
The US authorities say 23-year-old Sheffield student Richard O'Dwyer's TVShack website hosted links to pirated films and television programmes.
A spokesman said Mrs May had "carefully considered all relevant matters" before signing the order.
Mr O'Dwyer's mother Julia, from Chesterfield, said he had been "sold down the river" by the government.
Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled in January that Mr O'Dwyer could be extradited.
The Sheffield Hallam University student said he was "surprised" when police officers from the UK and US seized equipment at his home in South Yorkshire in November 2010.
The case was brought by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which claims that the TVShack.net website earned more than $230,000 (£147,000) in advertising revenue before US authorities obtained a warrant and seized the domain name in June 2010.
Mr O'Dwyer has argued that TVShack did not store copyright material itself and merely directed users to other sites, making it similar to Google.
On Tuesday his mother said: "Today, yet another British citizen is being sold down the river by the British Government.
"Richard's life - his studies, work opportunities, financial security - is being disrupted, for who knows how long, because the UK Government has not introduced the much-needed changes to the extradition law.
"The US is coming for the young (Richard), the old (Chris Tappin) and the ill (Gary McKinnon) and our government is paving the way.
"By rights, it should make for an interesting conversation between the Obamas and Camerons aboard Air Force One - but I'm not holding my breath.
"If Richard appears to have committed a crime in this country - then try him in this country.
"Instead the home secretary wants to send him thousands of miles away and leave him languishing, just like Chris Tappin, in a US jail, before he has a chance to demonstrate his innocence, under British law, of the allegations made against him."
She added: "It's disgusting. Next time it may be your son. I urge everyone who cares about unfair extradition to write to their MP and insist this disreputable law is changed.
"We are now carefully considering all Richard's legal options."[/quote]
Fuck you, Theresa May, sure copyright infringement is a crime, but an extradition to country with a broken justice system is not on, and the extradition agreement currently in place is ludicrious, with the US requesting more extraditions than we do, despite the fact that the US is larger several times over.
(sorry if the OP's shit, first thread I've made)
This bullshit extradition treaty really needs to be fixed, or scrapped. Stupid post 9/11 knee-jerk reaction.
That's alot of damn revenue for linking websites. Would not sending him to the US detract peaceable relations? If this was something to do with the extradition treaty, on what basis can he be sent to a foriegn state?
Why the fuck is copyright infringement even handled by the criminal courts? This should be handled completely in a civil court in the country of the defendant.
People should organize a sit in at her house. If the police show up and decide to make it violent, well, there's footage.
We need to stop extraditing people at every single request. This is one of the many similar stories I've read in the past few months alone. The way I see it, the only times extradition is really needed is if a [I]severe[/I] crime was committed [i]in that country[/i]. Say for instance if we caught a notorious murderer from Germany in this country and the German authorities wanted him to face the consequences over there (which is understandable). That is the sort of thing extradition should be for in my opinion.
Hey I know a Tory woman with a lot of political experience who won't be spineless, get rid of May and bring back her.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;35124008]Hey I know a Tory woman with a lot of political experience who won't be spineless, get rid of May and bring back her.[/QUOTE]
Good thing senile dementia stops her from coming back, Cameron is already sucking her off and trying to idolise her.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;35124035]Good thing senile dementia stops her from coming back, Cameron is already sucking her off and trying to idolise her.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, keep thinking that.
I would seriously snap if this happened to me, being extradited to the US is my worst nightmare.
[QUOTE=Beaverlake;35124100]I would seriously snap if this happened to me, being extradited to the US is my worst nightmare.[/QUOTE]
I love how America is made out to be the capital of the world and yet people are physically frightened of being extradited to their country.
Kind of ironic.
Good, dirty terrorists are not wanted in this country.
He hurt so many people, ended so many lives - I hope the US gives him the chair!
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The number of victims in his crimes is staggering.
one way system.
fuck you america.
But the supposed crime was committed on british territory. So either go to court there or nowhere at all.
Shame on you for taking USA's cock so deep.
Sex before marriage is illegal in some middle eastern countries so by applying the same logic, 1000s of people should be shipped over and put on trial even though they committed no crime in their home country.
My example is ridiculous and so is this story.
Great, Wrongly extrodited for a crime that isn't illegal here or should be illegal anywhere else for a harmless service. A good use of money and the justice system.
now all you brits can enjoy the lovely resort that is known as the US prison system
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a complimentary month of solitary confinement for everybody!
He didn't even infringe copyright himself, he basically said "Hey, you can get this stuff here!".
Which is what anyone can do on facebook or twitter or any other social networking site. Except they'll never shut THEM down because that would turn the entire public against them.
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[QUOTE=Valdor;35126431]now all you brits can enjoy the lovely resort that is known as the US prison system
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a complimentary month of solitary confinement for everybody![/QUOTE]
Gee I sure can't wait to drop the soap in a REAL american rapehouse!
Here is proof that the UK eats Americas shit
All of my rage...
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;35126636]Here is proof that the UK eats Americas shit[/QUOTE]
If we are extraditing our own criminals to their country, doesn't that mean America's the one who's doing all the eating? America aren't exactly doing themselves a favour in the expenditure department.
this is very very scary when you think about it
I'm genuinely quite scared about this. As far as I know, I'm not doing anything wrong. But the fact that I could face going through an unknown justice system and end up in a jail thousands of miles away if I did do something wrong is very scary.
There's a petition about this though not sure how much it'll do. I signed it anyway though. It's here if anyone is interested: [URL]http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-extradition-fair-uk-trial-for-richard-o-dwyer.html[/URL]
Surely he can use the (for lack of a better term) "google defence", his website did nothing but link others to content in the same way that Google does?
[QUOTE=krakadict;35124346]one way system.
fuck you america.[/QUOTE]
"Fuck you every citizen of America! You totally support this guy being extradited! I have no idea who you are or what your views are, but FUCK YOU!"
[QUOTE=Terminutter;35122056]Fuck you, Theresa May, sure copyright infringement is a crime, but an extradition to country with a broken justice system is not on, and the extradition agreement currently in place is ludicrious, with the US requesting more extraditions than we do, despite the fact that the US is larger several times over.
(sorry if the OP's shit, first thread I've made)[/QUOTE]
Can you please explain how the U.S. Justice system is broken?
[QUOTE=Beaverlake;35124100]I would seriously snap if this happened to me, being extradited to the US is my worst nightmare.[/QUOTE]
Living in the U.S is my worst nightmare.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;35129198]Can you please explain how the U.S. Justice system is broken?[/QUOTE]
Let's get started:
First off, life without parole is a fucking disgrace, and that sentence is used on [b]children[/b], too, which is done in no other "first world" country as it's a major human rights abuse, and gives a huge "fuck you" to rehabilitation. In addition to this, the children with life without parole (I believe it's around 2500 of them) are basically unable to receive any education beyond the international minimum, and rarely even that due to the overcrowding and constant lockdowns in prison.
Then we can move onto the prison abuse, both sexual and physical, which is also one of the highest in a first world country. This includes both abuse from inmates, and from staff.
Then the incredibly long sentence times, due to privatised jails lobbying to increase penalties for minor things that would be normally treated as misdemeanours, with community service in other countries.
Finally, some American use the death penalty, which science has shown again and again to be totally ineffective as a deterrent, and it's fundamentally wrong, as there is always the possibility of an error, and what proportion of innocents to guilty is acceptable to you?
About life without parole for Children in the US
[url]www.hrw.org/node/103978/section/1[/url]
Low income people and the justice system
[url]www.hrw.org/reports/2010/12/02/price-freedom-0[/url]
Aging prison populations due to the system.
[url]www.hrw.org/reports/2012/01/27/old-behind-bars-0[/url]
[QUOTE=Terminutter;35132212]Let's get started:
First off, life without parole is a fucking disgrace, and that sentence is used on [b]children[/b], too, which is done in no other "first world" country as it's a major human rights abuse, and gives a huge "fuck you" to rehabilitation. In addition to this, the children with life without parole (I believe it's around 2500 of them) are basically unable to receive any education beyond the international minimum, and rarely even that due to the overcrowding and constant lockdowns in prison.
Then we can move onto the prison abuse, both sexual and physical, which is also one of the highest in a first world country. This includes both abuse from inmates, and from staff.
Then the incredibly long sentence times, due to privatised jails lobbying to increase penalties for minor things that would be normally treated as misdemeanours, with community service in other countries.
Finally, some American use the death penalty, which science has shown again and again to be totally ineffective as a deterrent, and it's fundamentally wrong, as there is always the possibility of an error, and what proportion of innocents to guilty is acceptable to you?
About life without parole for Children in the US
[url]www.hrw.org/node/103978/section/1[/url]
Low income people and the justice system
[url]www.hrw.org/reports/2010/12/02/price-freedom-0[/url]
Aging prison populations due to the system.
[url]www.hrw.org/reports/2012/01/27/old-behind-bars-0[/url][/QUOTE]
So that warrants the U.S. justice system (courts, legal systems, and everything) being called "broken", which would signify that it does not work and is unable to function?
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