• Telstra's old as fuck Copper lines "perform robustly" says new NBN cheif
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[IMG]http://www.afr.com/rw/2009-2014/AFR/2013/09/11/Photos/c883f196-1ad6-11e3-92df-169c5e9f7f94_syd-5yamunh4iyg1hhpb2n5c--646x363.jpg[/IMG] [quote]Dr Switkowski, who was Telstra chief executive for five years from 1999, says the copper network - the oldest part of which is 50 years old - is still working well. "Here I default back to my own history ... It's constantly being maintained, remediated, upgraded," he told a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday. However, he said he was relying on anecdotal information as he hadn't received any official information from Telstra recently. "My feeling is that in 2013, the copper network fault rate may be higher than it was in the time I was at Telstra, but perhaps not materially higher," he said. "As best as I can tell, the copper network continues to perform robustly." Dr Switkowski said the percentage of copper in Telstra's network that would not be suitable for fibre to the node (FTTN) remained "a question in front of us" that would be looked at in the current strategic reviews. "It may well reveal whether there are unanticipated issues with the network," he said. He said Telstra had millions of broadband customers using ADSL on copper, delivering speeds of up to 10 megabits a second.[/quote] [URL]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/11/19/19/05/telstra-copper-network-robust-nbn-chief[/URL]
How about you stop using old ass technology and give me some goddamn fibre.
i'm vomiting perpetually
Well the NBN is being rolled out on my street as of today so fuck you old man (I'm pretty sure that's what they were doing)
They work robustly, except when they're underwater, poorly maintained or verging on obsolete.
I'm on the nbn before Abbot getting up to around 96 megabits a second and it's daunting to me the fact that when I move from where I'm living I have to go back to the old internet. The internet isn't just for emailing and browsing government websites you old fucks.
While it's a shame to hear the new NBN head say that, I'm not really surprised since that's what the Liberals want him to say.
That's 10 times faster than your piece of shit copper.
[QUOTE=Weirdness;42912502]How about you stop using old ass technology and give me some goddamn fibre.[/QUOTE] Because we have to save a relatively insignificant amount of money because the current government has to have an alternate plan to the previous government so that they don't have to admit that the other party's plan was better. Guys we need that money to be more xenophobic. We have to stop the boats guys, the boat people are here to steal our freedom and our jobs.
You cut out the best line [quote]He said Telstra had millions of broadband customers using ADSL on copper, delivering speeds of up to [B]10 megabits a second[/B]. "That suggests to me that the network is robust still and the [B]concerns that[/B] are expressed that [B]the network may not be the basis for the next generation of broadband platform[/B], I think, [B]are misinformed[/B]," he said.[/quote]
I can say that by living in a designer suburb, Telstra have been negligent and haven't replaced the lines here since construction of the suburb. Extremely little bandwidth to share and I've never reached >1Mbps
The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_Express]Pony Express[/url] was pretty robust. Nearly faultless as only once the mail wasn't delivered. I say mail via horse carriers is the superior means of communications compared to fiber.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42912555]You cut out the best line[/QUOTE] 1.25 megabytes per second is the top speed with 10mbps. I would love to see the data or study or whatever they are basing the notion that 10mbps is good enough for the next generation of broadband platform.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42912555]You cut out the best line[/QUOTE] Shit completely skipped over that, what a fucking joke regardless
Don't worry, in 2020 Australia will have blazing fast ~24mbit ADSL2+. Thanks Mr. Turnbull! That'll put my current 24mbit ADSL2+ connection to shame. We're leading the world in technology. A lot of people I know are stuck with 8mbit or less still. I realise I'm complaining while I may have one of the fastest residential connections available in Australia, I'm moreso speaking for others than myself, although the fact what's happening now is essentially cutting off any future advancement affects everyone on the speed scale.
[QUOTE]He said Telstra had millions of broadband customers using ADSL on copper, delivering speeds of up to 10 megabits a second. "That suggests to me that the network is robust still and the concerns that are expressed that the network may not be the basis for the next generation of broadband platform, I think, are misinformed," he said.[/QUOTE] How about they ask said customers if they are happy with 10mb/s.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42912541]While it's a shame to hear the new NBN head say that, I'm not really surprised since that's what the Liberals want him to say.[/QUOTE]Well yeah and that's why we have to pissed all over his paid off biased statement.
they are still installing fibre...
I worked on the nbn data centre for my area, and talked to the guys running the fibre infront of my house, yet with abbots/the nbns new plan my area isn't being covered apparently by the nbn. Yet all the cables are run and i am basically 2 blocks from the data centre. I cant really complain though, i get 100mbps down on cable :D.
[QUOTE=jjjohan;42912577]Don't worry, in 2020 Australia will have blazing fast ~24mbit ADSL2+. Thanks Mr. Turnbull! That'll put my current 24mbit ADSL2+ connection to shame. We're leading the world in technology. A lot of people I know are stuck with 8mbit or less still.[/QUOTE] I'm on 4-5Mbps, but even that's lucky considering the quality of our lines and the distance from the exchange. But still, it's stupid that we've gone from the NBN offering 100-1000Mbps, to Turnbull peddling 80Mbps VDSL, to 24Mbps ADSL FTTN, to now them boasting about 10Mbps speeds.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42912613]I'm on 4-5Mbps, but even that's lucky considering the quality of our lines and the distance from the exchange. But still, it's stupid that we've gone from the NBN offering 100-1000Mbps, to Turnbull peddling 80Mbps VDSL, to 24Mbps ADSL FTTN, to now them boasting about 10Mbps speeds.[/QUOTE]Well Turnbull's job is to put money back in the Libs pockets.
[QUOTE=Rexxasaurus;42912578]How about they ask said customers if they are happy with 10mb/s.[/QUOTE] Because they know the customers will say they want NBN, and the liberals don't want to believe it.
Funny thing is, just recently Turnbull put Simon Hackett on the NBN board (Internode founder), he's said in the past that the NBN is wasteful (But he loves the idea), and he's come up with his own plans for how to do FTTH on a "copper budget" [url]http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/[/url]
[QUOTE=jjjohan;42912577]Don't worry, in 2020 Australia will have blazing fast ~24mbit ADSL2+. Thanks Mr. Turnbull! That'll put my current 24mbit ADSL2+ connection to shame. We're leading the world in technology. A lot of people I know are stuck with 8mbit or less still.[/QUOTE] I'd be one of them. It's compounded by the fact I live in the country too, and get to deal with the local exchange getting congested every other week. I was looking forward to the NBN, being on the one year waiting list, then having it disappear before my eyes. Real fun.
I know this is a popular opinion and all, but governments, companies, countries should try to push Fibre cabling on a much larger scale. Not just to cities or so. Getting a large fibre infrastructure could help a country. At least how I see it. Of course, this is hard and very expensive but on the other hand. Fibre cables are more reliable then copper cables, most of the times don't need as much maintenance as copper cables, and can do much much longer cable runs without a repeater/signal amplifier. Not just that, but the obvious bandwidth difference.
Unchecked capitalism and shareholder centered business never results in innovation and technological advancement.
What a load of fucking bullshit.
Yeah 300 KB/s, fucking amazing I can't believe the future
Woohoo, get to upgrade my 7 mbit to 10 mbit that probably costs 3x the price for less limit!
I had an argument over Facebook with someone about this. They specifically voted for Liberals on the basis that Labor's NBN was a waste of money considering the only reason our country needs a better internet infrastructure is so that we can all download porn faster. Some people, I just can't even.
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