Windows 10 Will Automatically Spy On Your Children's Computer Habits for You - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Kirk writes, "This weekend we upgraded my 14-year-old son's laptop from Windows 8 to Windows 10. Today I got a creepy-ass email from Microsoft titled 'Weekly activity report for [my kid]', including which websites he's visited, how many hours per day he's used it, and how many minutes he used each of his favorite apps."[/QUOTE] Sauce #1 is kinda scetchy, but Windows Confirmed it: [QUOTE]When you add a child's Microsoft account to your family, you'll get regular activity report emails summarizing how much time they spent on the PC, the websites they visited, the games and apps they used, and the terms they've looked up in search engines like Bing, Google, or Yahoo! Search.[/QUOTE] [url]http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html?utm_content=bufferd56ec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer[/url] [url]http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/monitor-child-device-activity[/url] This can be very good and also very bad.

"We know you're too lazy to parent your own kids, so we'll do it for you"

This is inherently a bad thing. We can't move forward with efforts like the removal of NSA monitoring for the concern of our own privacy while allowing the implementation of things like this who's sole purpose is to spy and monitor someone's basic functions. It doesn't matter if it's for parental use, it's invasive by nature and it doesn't exactly set a course for a more broadly disagreeable attitude towards online monitoring. If someone is so paranoid about the privacy of their children that they want to monitor them, there are numerous trafficking services that they can install themselves or get from their provider. But the Windows 10 platform shouldn't support this on such a fundamental level.

my take on this kind of thing is that it's nice to know up to a certain age where it becomes basically invasion of privacy. all in all it's nice but at the same time makes it easy for parents to be "overprotective" on their children *should also be opt-in too

This should be opt-in. That it's automatically activated is disgusting.

I feel bad for this generation of children.

let those kids have their first fap in peace it's a magical moment, it's like when man discovered fire

Windows 10 looks really fucking shady to me, with the automatic updates that can't be made optional, this and the constant logging of information from you. I'm gonna stick with what I have now and wait to see later.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;48464270]This should be opt-in. That it's automatically activated is disgusting.[/QUOTE] The fact that this is available at all is weird as hell. I'm not sure if this will change if/when I ever have kids, but I would rather not know what my child has been doing with their computer. At best, it'll be meaningless information. At worst, it'll irreparably change the way I look at them even though if they're well-adjusted and well-raised, it shouldn't matter what they've been doing.

How do you turn this off?

[QUOTE=joshuadim;48464289]Windows 10 looks really fucking shady to me, with the automatic updates that can't be made optional, this and the constant logging of information from you. I'm gonna stick with what I have now and wait to see later.[/QUOTE] Automatic update is only for Home/standard and the logging stuff you can all turn off iirc

this has been around since windows 7, but it was always opt-in beforehand.

You could also just make a regular account for your kids instead? I think anything labeled a 'child account' would carry features like this.

It might be enabled by default. But you probably have enter an email to have it all sent to. So the moment it asks you that you'd just say "no I don't want that" and hit skip.

[QUOTE=Novangel;48464313]Automatic update is only for Home/standard and the logging stuff you can all turn off iirc[/QUOTE] The thing is, why have info logging in the first place? That's fucking shady in itself

There are two kinds of Microsoft accounts, regular and child. You could just not use a child account. It's not mandatory or anything. Use a regular Microsoft account or even just a local account and use third party parental control software instead. No one's forcing you to use Microsoft's.

Sadly, I'd actually see most parents taking advantage of this, especially in the early teenage years. I'm actually surprised that I'm not seeing the feature of limiting account access only for a certain amount or period of time, because lord knows most parents would love to get their kids off of Facebook and Youtube pretty much by force. It really is just unfair as well as lazy parenting though. [QUOTE=joshuadim;48464401]The thing is, why have info logging in the first place? That's fucking shady in itself[/QUOTE] If you want the honest answer, it's mostly just to use Cortana/search. Google and Apple do the exact same shit with Google Now and Siri respectively, and usually disabling any sort of logging stops them from functioning. It's mostly just a matter of if you trust the company with your personal info or not. You can go full paranoid and say they're logging it for the NSA, but with that still in the back of most consumers' minds, I doubt that would be the main reason. Besides, it's not like the NSA doesn't already have a metric fuckton of data on you.

I don't think you should monitor what your kids do on that level. You should make sure they're not chatting up pedophiles but if they want to look at porn, let them

Made me feel bad about myself where once i installed a RAT on some kid's PC because her mother wanted to monitor her activity, like everything. The RAT even recognized her passwords. Thankfully after 3 days her anti virus caught up and disabled the RAT.

shit like this is exactly why I'm not installing windows 10 too paranoid

[QUOTE=Samiam22;48464290]The fact that this is available at all is weird as hell. I'm not sure if this will change if/when I ever have kids, but I would rather not know what my child has been doing with their computer. At best, it'll be meaningless information. At worst, it'll irreparably change the way I look at them even though if they're well-adjusted and well-raised, it shouldn't matter what they've been doing.[/QUOTE] My internet habits have done very bad things to me. I probably would be better off if my parents had installed an effective web filter.

[QUOTE=Tone Float;48464534]My internet habits have done very bad things to me. I probably would be better off if my parents had installed an effective web filter.[/QUOTE] Use opendns.com for URL filtering.

It definitely was enabled by default, and that was really aggravating, because it didn't even work properly. It stuck me into this family system for some reason, and even though my account is 18+, I still had a forced filter on YouTube for adult-flagged videos. I thought YouTube was bugging out, but no, I found out it was the default-on family system. No clue why it just barged in like that, tbh. It's really upsetting how I want Windows 10 to be successful, but little things like this keep popping up.

Just let the kids see their goddamn porn..

This is an opt in optional system. If you installed windows10 and were automatically in a family system, either something went horribly wrong, or someone is fucking with you. Also, this has actually been a feature since Windows7. 8, and 8.1 had it as well.

[QUOTE=Dracon;48464936]This is an opt in optional system. If you installed windows10 and were automatically in a family system, either something went horribly wrong, or someone is fucking with you. Also, this has actually been a feature since Windows7. 8, and 8.1 had it as well.[/QUOTE] I'm also getting reports of Windows 10 installations later in the line failing... so that also could be it.

If you don't want this just make a normal account for your kid. If a kid account isn't any different from normal, non-administrator account, it wouldn't be called a kid account. I'm pretty sure you could disable this both in settings and by just changing the account type. The only important part is whether this is mentioned when you make a new account. This feature has been in windows for a while.

This happened to me. I'm 16 btw, had to go onto my dads hotmail and disable it

Hasn't Hotmail had this since the mid 2000s? I could have sworn they would occasionally send reports to the parent's e-mail address if they set up a child e-mail.

Shit like this has been around with third party stuff and what not, simple solution don't make your account a limited access account. Not upgrading because something like this exists is stupid because any search engine ever has a huge profile on you anyways