Well guys, Valve is making games again.
This is what you wanted, right? Are you happy yet?! :buddy:
I'm not gonna pass judgement on it yet until I see how it actually plays, but still. Really, a Dota card game?
So it's Valve's turn to get into a market that competition is already very high
OH BOY NOW I CAN TRADE LITERAL USABLE STEAM TRADING CARDS ON THE MARKET
Cause what the market needs is another trading card game with (knowing Valve) obtuse rulesets.
Who at Valve thought this was a good idea? This is the last company that I expected to jump on this bandwagon.
[QUOTE=aurum481;52553252]So it's Valve's turn to get into a market [B]that will give them lods e mone forever and ever[/B][/QUOTE]
is what I think they're doing.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;52553360]Card games make a lot of $ and considering the source material of a lot of the trendy card games are of the same genre it seems like a natural fit
Not one I'd like though[/QUOTE]
My biggest complaint is just how boring it sounds. They just turned DOTA's gameplay into a card game format. That doesn't sound very exciting, it doesn't even sound like it would be that fun to watch. Isn't part of the fun of DOTA watching players pull off exciting moves? Why not create an exploration based DOTA game, or a third person shooter version for people who prefer that kind of gameplay?
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;52553342]Who at Valve thought this was a good idea? This is the last company that I expected to jump on this bandwagon.[/QUOTE]
its a great idea from a business perspective, card games print money. the only way a card game can fail is shit marketing and a poor team (like runescape chronicles) and valve has marketing right up their alley. Especially with the steam market, they could buy even more gold yachts with this cash cow
Part of me is fine with this because it most likely was just worked on by a bunch of interns, and didn't take away anything from other games
The other part of me is just asking "Why a card game?"
Nothing beats Gwent.
The game that source 2 was meant for.
It could turn out to be the best card game ever released,
but what the fuck valve. Really?
so who wants to bet that this is going to be an absolutely utterly uninspiring game on all fronts, but achieves relative success because of integration with valve's cashcows, throwing thousands of cosmetics at it until it gets players
i can't even imagine touching this unless it has some gimmick, or does something that no one else is doing
I think the point is to get dota 2 players to play some other game and spend some cash while doing that. Dota 2 has an enormous amount of players who dont even touch anything besides dota.
As for the game itself, day9 said it has three boards (one for each lane i assume) and you get 5 heroes like in dota, who have their abilities and you buy items for them and stuff. Not much has been said so far.
I'll play it if its good but honestly i would have liked something else.
That logo animation is a hell lot like Dirty Bomb's logo.
[QUOTE=ElderLolz;52554314]Valve wanted to show that they can be just as good as Blizzard by not only making a bunch of their good writers leave, but by also making a Hearthstone rip-off[/QUOTE]
"Hearthstone rip-off" is a weird way of putting it. Nobody calls superhero movies "Iron Man rip-offs" or "X-men rip-offs" just because they're what started the trend
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52554467]"Hearthstone rip-off" is a weird way of putting it. Nobody calls superhero movies "Iron Man rip-offs" or "X-men rip-offs" just because they're what started the trend[/QUOTE]
It's obviously a battle, Valve ninja'd Dota, Blizzard retaliates with Heroes of the Storm, and Valve ripostes with Artifact.
This is a serious headscratcher for me, not to sound like a dickhead but is this something anyone was really wanting?
What the shit.
I wish they had done a Valve universe card game instead. I don't give a single crap about DOTA but if they had TF2 characters/weapons as cards and Gordon Freeman and shit I'd be all over it. Then at least they could do a proper Ricochet reference.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52555011]I wish they had done a Valve universe card game instead. I don't give a single crap about DOTA but if they had TF2 characters/weapons as cards and Gordon Freeman and shit I'd be all over it. Then at least they could do a proper Ricochet reference.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, wouldn't that be even more of an obvious cash crab? Wouldn't the community be even more furious to see Valve abandon the IPs they love, only to bring them back in the form of cheaply made/reused hero portraits and voice lines just to cash in on what's trendy?
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;52553352]is what I think they're doing.[/QUOTE]
valve already has the near infinite cash cows that are steam greenlight and dota2
[editline]9th August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52555011]I wish they had done a Valve universe card game instead. I don't give a single crap about DOTA but if they had TF2 characters/weapons as cards and Gordon Freeman and shit I'd be all over it. Then at least they could do a proper Ricochet reference.[/QUOTE]
heroes of the storm has all of blizzards ips in it and it just comes accross as cheesy
[QUOTE=Louis;52555151]valve already has the near infinite cash cows that are steam greenlight and dota2
[editline]9th August 2017[/editline]
heroes of the storm has all of blizzards ips in it and it just comes accross as cheesy[/QUOTE]
Blizzard also haven't been leaving any of their IPs in the dust since 2007
and? the point was a card game (of all things) stuffing everything valve has into one game would just be awful and so uninspired. It hardly works for blizzard who, as you said have been giving their IPs attention, so why would it work for valve other than to appeal to the shortsighted fans who will squee at the premise of playing the legendary tf2 scout card vs the legendary gordon freeman card
the whole idea of artifact is stupid, but having it have no actual identity and theming would be even worse.
My point was it'd be wholly offensive if Valve made a game like that because imagine the reaction if the closest thing Half Life fans would get to a sequel is cards. Not even its own card game, just as cards in a big collectathon.
There's absolutely nothing left of the old Valve, no innovation, no shits given.
Valve is officially gone.
This is the cancer metastasizing to the brain.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;52555292]There's absolutely nothing left of the old Valve, no innovation, no shits given.
Valve is officially gone.
This is the cancer metastasizing to the brain.[/QUOTE] So it'll have zero innovation because... it's a part of a genre?
I mean fuck I remember some similar complaints about Portal 2 pre-release, because at the time it didn't quite seem like Portal was a game that could have a sequel and that there wasn't much that could be done. But then we got one of the best puzzle games ever made.
As much as it sucks to have zero expectations for Valve these days, it does mean I don't get let down by these announcements.
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