Small Plane crashes outside Vancouver International. Richmond Bridges closed. - Polidicks

[img]http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2011/10/27/li-bc-111027-richmond-plane-crash.jpg[/img] [quote]A small plane has crashed onto a road in Richmond, B.C., near Vancouver International Airport. The aircraft was headed from Vancouver to Kelowna with eight people on board, a pilot who works for another airline at the airport tells CBC News. There is no word yet on injuries. The plane turned around shortly after takeoff but did not make it back to the airport, crashing in the 5300-block of No. 2 Road in Richmond, said the pilot, who asked not to be identified. The plane is a Beechcraft King Air turbo-prop.[/quote] [url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/10/27/bc-richmond-plane-crash.html]**SOURCE**[/url] Canada Line transit is still reportedly online but all bridge access in and out of Richmond is currently closed. It should however open shortly because they are mad to close all those roads at rush hour.

Only 8 people on board?

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32999790][URL="http://www.hawkerbeechcraft.com/beechcraft/king_air_350i/"]That's a typical load for that plane.[/URL][/QUOTE] Oh, I had the mental image of a jumbo jet with just 8 people on it v:v:v

Once I saw a plane crashed being mentioned in Vancouver, I immediately began worrying for the Canucks. -shrug-

That plane looks like a wreck. I'm glad some of them, hopefully all, survived.

Aslong as no Canucks were injured in the crash I am neutral.

I was listening to the ATC at YVR but the controllers said they weren't allowed to say anything regarding the crash.

[QUOTE=The golden;32999810]The aircraft in question [B]Edit[/B]: Fuck, beaten to it. [IMG]http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/beach_king_air350/images/kingair350_1.jpg[/IMG] Shit, the damage must be bad. I hope everyone in the area is ok.[/QUOTE] Turboprops are such neat planes, I've been in one similar to that. Hope people are ok.

[QUOTE=Leonmyster;33000017]Once I saw a plane crashed being mentioned in Vancouver, I immediately began worrying for the Canucks. -shrug-[/QUOTE] We had another crash a few years back where another small plane crashed into a Richmond skyrise.

[quote][B]The plane turned around shortly after takeoff[/B] but did not make it back to the airport[/quote] This is 'what not to do when encountering problems after taking off' 101.

[QUOTE=Contag;33001535]This is 'what not to do when encountering problems after taking off' 101.[/QUOTE] What? If you have problems you make your way to the nearest runway. If the nearest one is behind you, you turn around.

[QUOTE=Contag;33001535]This is 'what not to do when encountering problems after taking off' 101.[/QUOTE] Actually, that's exactly what you need to do. :ninja:

Judging by the photos, it doesn't seem like the pilot was actually trying to head back to the airport, but turn 90 degrees and land on the road, which is far more reasonable, at least compared to gliding into denser areas, or turning 180 degrees. [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;33001607]What? If you have problems you make your way to the nearest runway. If the nearest one is behind you, you turn around.[/QUOTE] Only if you have sufficient altitude and velocity, otherwise you'll drop like a rock.

Actually in a smaller plane, you generally won't have time to make it back to the runway (turning around wastes a lot of altitude if you have an engine failure), plus even if you did make it back, you'd now be trying to land with the wind. Not good. The usual recommended strategy is to find a field or road that you can safely land on somewhere ahead of you. EDIT: Ninja'd.

[QUOTE=Contag;33001662]Judging by the photos, it doesn't seem like the pilot was actually trying to head back to the airport, but turn 90 degrees and land on the road, which is far more reasonable, at least compared to gliding into denser areas, or turning 180 degrees. [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] Only if you have sufficient altitude and velocity, otherwise you'll drop like a rock.[/QUOTE] If you're in a twin engine plane (like the King Air), you call out four things at designated speeds during a normal takeoff roll: 80 knots - This is to make sure that both airspeed indicators are working properly by making sure both airspeed indications are at 80 knots V1 - This is where the pilot needs to decide whether or not they will be taking off. After this speed, you physically cannot stop the airplane in the given distance. Rotate - This is when you rotate (or pull back on) the controls to get the wheels up off the ground. V2 - Here's the thing I'm talking about. This speed is when the aircraft can climb and operate safely with one good engine, which is pretty much right after takeoff in most aircraft. Unless the pilot experienced a double engine failure, he should have been more than able to make it back to YVR and not drop like a rock.

[QUOTE=Dacheet;33001835]If you're in a twin engine plane (like the King Air), you call out four things at designated speeds during a normal takeoff roll: 80 knots - This is to make sure that both airspeed indicators are working properly by making sure both airspeed indications are at 80 knots V1 - This is where the pilot needs to decide whether or not they will be taking off. After this speed, you physically cannot stop the airplane in the given distance. Rotate - This is when you rotate (or pull back on) the controls to get the wheels up off the ground. V2 - Here's the thing I'm talking about. This speed is when the aircraft can climb and operate safely with one good engine, which is pretty much right after takeoff in most aircraft. Unless the pilot experienced a double engine failure, he should have been more than able to make it back to YVR and not drop like a rock.[/QUOTE] Ah, I assumed double engine failure as a given as I've only trained and flown in single engine planes, good point.

Everybody but the pilot lived. All routes with the exception of the road it crashed on are also now open.

I'm going to be optimistic and say that the smoke's probably coming from the engines getting destroyed, not exploding, and everyone survived.

[QUOTE=MIPS;33004901]Everybody lived. All routes with the exception of the road it crashed on are also now open.[/QUOTE] Pilot died, Co-pilot in critical condition.