• BioFoam A Reality: Utilizing Plant Polymers To Stop Massive Wounds In Seconds
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[video=youtube;dJLxRcU9No4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJLxRcU9No4[/video] [QUOTE]The quest to staunch traumatic blood flow is as old as humanity, so it is surprising how little progress we've made. Now, however, a plant extract that slashes the time it takes to clot a bleeding wound is about to be applied in veterinary clinics. The idea of a liquid bandage has been thought of before, and some are [URL="http://www.newskinproducts.com/"]already on the market[/URL]. However, those bandages are for superficial cuts to the skin. They won't help with bullet wounds or if an internal organ is cut during surgery. Joe Landolina is thinking much bigger. His idea is to use plant-based polymers to form a dam to stop bleeding in seconds. It was only when he tried it, however, that he found the polymers' have the capacity to stick together “like Lego blocks” and to activate the blood's natural clotting process to stop even large bleeds astonishingly fast. As Landolina notes, the difference between stopping a wound in five minutes or in thirty seconds can be the gap between life and death.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/superfast-clotting-agent-could-save-many-lives"]Source[/URL] [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-science.gif[/IMG]
That's incredible. I can't wait for this to be readily available in every ambulance and first-aid kit.
Now all we have to do is spend 10 years testing to make sure it doesn't cause cancer first
i wouldn't be too excited. i feel like stories on these amazing 'medi gels' are recycled year after year. i have seen quite a few of these 'breakthroughs' already only for them to never really have come into fruition
If we accidentally sit on a bag of this stuff will it heal our butt closed
Let's just work towards making a handheld canister variant of it so that soldiers on the field, officers on the line of duty, and etc, have an option for emergency medical procedures to save lives from bleed outs
[quote]a plant extract that slashes the time it takes to clot a bleeding wound[/quote] I see what they did there.
[QUOTE=fixture;46610013]i wouldn't be too excited. i feel like stories on these amazing 'medi gels' are recycled year after year. i have seen quite a few of these 'breakthroughs' already only for them to never really have come into fruition[/QUOTE] That's because medicine takes time to test and approve and people have an attention span for these discoveries of about six months and assume that if they aren't being used immediately they stop existing.
looks like ghostbuster ectoplasim. 12 years from now we will tech it to dance
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46610022]Welcome to modern medicine. Where the discovery doesn't mean shit. This guy discovered this, and it's great. And it's going to be 10-15 years before it even makes it to trials assuming the FDA doesn't railroad it through (it wouldn't)[/QUOTE] Well its already on animal testing, so I'd say thats pretty damn far along in the process. I'm interested in its capabilities to plug bullet holes in the tissue. That would be a game changer me
[QUOTE=fixture;46610013]i wouldn't be too excited. i feel like stories on these amazing 'medi gels' are recycled year after year. i have seen quite a few of these 'breakthroughs' already only for them to never really have come into fruition[/QUOTE] To be fair, there are a thousand 'miracle cure' or 'incredible invention' threads every single year, and the majority never see the light of day even long after the testing phases are complete. Either they don't pan out, or for one reason or another they're shut down... That being said, eventually one of these creations is going to be tested, proven, and successfully make it to market - benefit of the doubt is all we can really give. And this is one product we NEED - almost more than anything else. Deep lacerations and/with organ damage are likely the top injuries out there I would imagine. Having the ability to quickly stop that blood loss and buy even precious minutes is going to save an untold amount of lives. Cautiously optimistic myself!
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46609988]Now all we have to do is spend 10 years testing to make sure it doesn't cause cancer first[/QUOTE] meanwhile super glue was just like "oh this sets really fast. better use it to glue people back together!" [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46610029]Let's just work towards making a handheld canister variant of it so that soldiers on the field, officers on the line of duty, and etc, have an option for emergency medical procedures to save lives from bleed outs[/QUOTE] see above
wouldn't it hurt to pull out later? its like a super hard fat scab under your skin
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46609988]Now all we have to do is spend 10 years testing to make sure it doesn't cause cancer first[/QUOTE] I would opt for a predictable chance of a bit of cancer if I have a deep wound that would otherwise mean bleeding out on the spot.
[QUOTE=notlabbet;46610619]wouldn't it hurt to pull out later? its like a super hard fat scab under your skin[/QUOTE] Better than bleeding out, I'd say.
[QUOTE=Magman77;46610324]meanwhile super glue was just like "oh this sets really fast. better use it to glue people back together!" [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] see above[/QUOTE] probably not going to work with a bullet wound unless it's a graze or a through and through. certainly not any heavy trauma. hopefully, this foam does.
[QUOTE=Magman77;46610324]meanwhile super glue was just like "oh this sets really fast. better use it to glue people back together!" [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] see above[/QUOTE] well it was a military invention, there's less regulation on those
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46610893]well it was a military invention, there's less regulation on those[/QUOTE] Not so much its less regulation it just gets front loaded. A device like this that could be part of a soldier's personal trauma kit and stop bleeding of a gunshot wound without the need of a trained medic stuffing the hole with gause until it stops is pretty fucking awesome as a military application.
This would seriously help if you was to ever get shot in the femoral artery - by another gunman or even ricochet. In a situation like that, you only have 10 seconds before you bleed out.
[QUOTE=notlabbet;46610619]wouldn't it hurt to pull out later? its like a super hard fat scab under your skin[/QUOTE] You'd probably have to get it removed by proper doctors when you're carried back to a field hospital, and at that point they might as well knock you out. But it's better than being dead and I imagine getting a chunk of blood-soaked, half-clotted gauze out of a bullet wound hurts just as much.
[QUOTE=fixture;46610013]i wouldn't be too excited. i feel like stories on these amazing 'medi gels' are recycled year after year. i have seen quite a few of these 'breakthroughs' already only for them to never really have come into fruition[/QUOTE] That's because testing isn't done overnight, it takes years.
It might have a chance to give you cancer. But who cares? It's [B]Can[/B]cer not [B]Can't[/B]cer! It's all coming together
Awesome now the Mark V from Halo with biofoam injectors will be a reality! >:D
Immediately thought of this when I read it. [url]http://youtu.be/TyeeDkRgLwM?t=19m51s[/url]
[QUOTE=notlabbet;46610619]wouldn't it hurt to pull out later? its like a super hard fat scab under your skin[/QUOTE] I'm taking a total guess here but it's possible your body might just take care of it itself later. It probably just gets absorbed if you leave it there long enough.
Wouldn't it be extremely painful? I mean no less than you're injury already but it seems it would hurt.
[QUOTE=Chaseymusica;46615099]Wouldn't it be extremely painful? I mean no less than you're injury already but it seems it would hurt.[/QUOTE] Of course it would be painful but its better then dying.
[QUOTE=fixture;46610013]i wouldn't be too excited. i feel like stories on these amazing 'medi gels' are recycled year after year. i have seen quite a few of these 'breakthroughs' already only for them to never really have come into fruition[/QUOTE] This is the first time it's actually been achieved though, all those other ones tend to cauterise the wound with the heat of a chemical reaction. [editline]1st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Chaseymusica;46615099]Wouldn't it be extremely painful? I mean no less than you're injury already but it seems it would hurt.[/QUOTE] Either it sucks for a few minutes, or you die due to exsanguination.
i thought the problem with these were that they had no way of dissolving them when they don't need them
I would assume that your body just absorbs it, the same way that your body will absorb organic polymers in organ repair and transplants.
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