• Looks Like I'm Voting (R) Now - Tea Party Caucus Formed In Texas - 47 TX. Reps Now Members
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[url]http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/12/tea_party_rule_almost_one-thir.php[/url] [quote]After the election last month, state Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, promised to start a Tea Party Caucus in the Texas Legislature. He calls the Tea Party, which helped usher into the Texas House an unprecedented 101 Republicans, "the most important political movement of our lifetime." Today, Patrick has followed through on his promise, announcing the first 48 legislators to join him in what he says is a first-of-its-kind legislative caucus. "This is a grassroots-up, not a Legislature-down caucus," Patrick says. What will set the Tea Party caucus apart, he says, is input from outside of the Capitol. The caucus will make its agenda the agenda of the state Tea Party Advisory Board. That's as it should be, Patrick says, because the party showed such power at the ballot box, helping elect so many conservative legislators. Those lawmakers ought to be accountable to the voters who put them in office. "We want them to stay engaged, and we want to help them stay engaged," Patrick says. Only one senator, so far, has joined Patrick's new caucus: newcomer Brian Birdwell, R-Granbury. The remaining caucus members are from the House, and they include a number of newly elected representatives. What's more, not all of the caucus members seem to have the same ideological values, and not all of them support the same House Speaker candidate. But Patrick's not worried about divisions in the group, and he's confident they will attract more legislators to their ranks. "This caucus is not about speaker politics," Patrick says. "The mission of the Tea Party Caucus is to pass conservative legislation.[/quote] Awesome, now that all the batshit insane militant christian idiots are creating their own political party and weeding their selves out of the Republican Party, I can vote Republican again since all these idiots were the ones that scared me away from voting Republican Now if this only happened on the national level, and with the liberals in the Democratic party, we could actually have some fucking democracy in this country instead of parties with monopolies on power
America will alawys be a two-party system of extremism.
These guys will still be running on the Republican line, don't worry. A legislative caucus isn't a separate party, it's a [potentially] bipartisan group of legislators who agree on certain issues and would like to group themselves together. Familiar with the Congressional Black Caucus? The closest analogy to this would be the Blue Dog Coalition of conservative Democrats, which hasn't managed to split into its own party yet.
Republican and democrat are boring and only slightly different. It would be funnier if it were fascist vs commie. but really its nice that the super crazies got out of the party and joined one that no one votes for
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26747584]Republican and democrat are boring and only slightly different. It would be funnier if it were fascist vs commie. but really its nice that the super crazies got out of the party and joined one that no one votes for[/QUOTE] That's what we really vote for. Do we want fascist Republicans running the government, or do we want the commie Democrats? This system sucks.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;26747971]That's what we really vote for. Do we want fascist Republicans running the government, or do we want the commie Democrats? This system sucks.[/QUOTE] By global standards, the democrats are conservatives and the republicans are insane
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26747987]By global standards, the democrats are conservatives and the republicans are insane[/QUOTE] Be careful, exposing that much international perspective can result in mild cases of "butt-hurtedness" in teens and young adults.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;26747971]That's what we really vote for. Do we want fascist Republicans running the government, or do we want the commie Democrats? This system sucks.[/QUOTE] How are the Democrats "commies"? Or the Republicans fascists, for that matter?
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26748095]How are the Democrats "commies"? Or the Republicans fascists, for that matter?[/QUOTE] I believe the theory goes that the Democrats are "commies" because they support social welfare programs which some view as wealth-distribution. Republicans are viewed as "fascists" due to their preference for a stronger military and an outspoken sense of national pride, in addition to having a fairly aggressive outlook on foreign nations.
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;26748126]I believe the theory goes that the Democrats are "commies" because they support social welfare programs which some view as wealth-distribution. Republicans are viewed as "fascists" due to their preference for a stronger military and an outspoken sense of national pride, in addition to having a fairly aggressive outlook on foreign nations.[/QUOTE] Of course, none of those things are even mildly communistic or fascistic. Why is political discourse in America so damn hyperbolic?
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26747528]America will alawys be a two-party system of extremism.[/QUOTE] It's because of the way we elect representitives. First past the post is a very bad model of democracy.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26748149]Of course, none of those things are even mildly communistic or fascistic. Why is political discourse in America so damn hyperbolic?[/QUOTE] Because it's a 2 party system where fights over seats are so important to getting a majority that each party must resort to tactics considered nuclear options in other countries, since all it takes is 1 vote to tip the balance Now if there was a third party such tactics wouldn't be used since parties would be hard pressed to have a majority
I'll never understand why bipartisanship was implemented
I read caucus as cactus.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26748149]Of course, none of those things are even mildly communistic or fascistic. Why is political discourse in America so damn hyperbolic?[/QUOTE] Very true. Communism and socialism are both inaccurate ways to describe what democrats wish to accomplish. In a similar vein, what Republicans wish to achieve is far from fascism. Hyperbole has become the standard means of getting ones point across to large audiences. You can have a calm rational discussion about how you disagree with the war in Iraq or the healthcare bill, but people are far more likely to listen if instead you scream your head off at Bush and Obama. Modern journalism is a sham and Julian Assange is no better than the rest of them.
America's politics are silly. It's like the country is divided about every little topic, may it be as stupid as pooping in the woods.
I vote Libertarian and Republican. I highly prefer Libertarians but I'd rather choose the lesser of two evils which to me is Republican. inb4 shitstorm from liberal facepunch fags that don't even know what fiscal means.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;26749059]I vote Libertarian and Republican. I highly prefer Libertarians but I'd rather choose the lesser of two evils which to me is Republican. inb4 shitstorm from liberal facepunch fags that don't even know what fiscal means.[/QUOTE] inb4 you suck you suck
I guess I'm the only one here that votes based on which candidate they believe will fuck us over the least? Because I sure as hell don't vote based on party lines. I don't care if they're liberal, conservative, Na'vi or Jedi, if I believe they will do the least damage of all the candidates they get my vote.
heres how politics in the US works. Democrat gets elected. First 2 years - undoing everything the last president did next 2 years - trying to get re-elected next 4 years - Trying new shit At this point, the public doesn't like how it's going, and decides they want to switch sides, thus, a republican takes office. Republican gets elected First 2 years - Undoing everything the last president did next 2 years - trying to get re-elected next 4 years - Trying new shit. At this point, the public doesn't like how it's going, and decides they want to switch sides, thus, a democrat takes office yet again. Cycle repeats. If at any time a president isn't re-elected then the next president re-does everything the previous one undid and the cycle begins again.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26747528]America will alawys be a two-party system of extremism.[/QUOTE] Extremism...? Do you know what extremism is? Republicans and Democrats are both very centrist groups. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=MisterLANCE;26749759]heres how politics in the US works. Democrat gets elected. First 2 years - undoing everything the last president did next 2 years - trying to get re-elected next 4 years - Trying new shit At this point, the public doesn't like how it's going, and decides they want to switch sides, thus, a republican takes office. Republican gets elected First 2 years - Undoing everything the last president did next 2 years - trying to get re-elected next 4 years - Trying new shit. At this point, the public doesn't like how it's going, and decides they want to switch sides, thus, a democrat takes office yet again. Cycle repeats. If at any time a president isn't re-elected then the next president re-does everything the previous one undid and the cycle begins again.[/QUOTE] Not exactly...Obama has done little to undo what Bush did.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;26749892]Extremism...? Do you know what extremism is? Republicans and Democrats are both very centrist groups.[/QUOTE] I am a republican, I can tell you damn sure with all these tea party idiots infesting the party the Republican party is far from center
[QUOTE=yawmwen;26749892]Extremism...? Do you know what extremism is? Republicans and Democrats are both very centrist groups.[/QUOTE] [I]Centrist?[/I] The republicans are far right and democrats moderate right. They are nowhere near the center and if they were they would be called communists. That's life in America.
Why does America have bipartisanship in the first place? All I've even seen it do is cause a "Us vs Them" mentality.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;26749059]I vote Libertarian and Republican. I highly prefer Libertarians but I'd rather choose the lesser of two evils which to me is Republican. inb4 shitstorm from liberal facepunch fags that don't even know what fiscal means.[/QUOTE] Of or relating to government expenditures, revenues, and debt
Extremism? Democrats and Republicans are so much alike, it's embarrassing. They fight over issues to get votes. Same overall agenda.
America is barely a democracy.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26754817]America is barely a democracy.[/QUOTE] No country is really a true democracy. I think it's a shame that our parties have to pander to all the idiotic backwards conservatives in our country to get elected. We're so far behind the rest of the world, but no party can really advocate the leaps and bounds we need to take without being ignorantly labelled a "communist". I mean, Obama's policies aren't even extremely progressive and look how he's been demonized. Being an informed citizen here is just as saddening as it is frustrating.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;26749059]I vote Libertarian and Republican. I highly prefer Libertarians but I'd rather choose the lesser of two evils which to me is Republican. inb4 shitstorm from liberal facepunch fags that don't even know what fiscal means.[/QUOTE] Democrats have traditionally been more fiscally responsible so stick that in your pipe and smoke it
That doesn't mean that the Republican party has improved at all.
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