[QUOTE](CNN) -- Although a fierce critic of Barack Obama, former Vice President Dick Cheney does not support calls from some on the far right of his party to impeach him, saying it would simply create a distraction.
"I'm not prepared at this point to call for the impeachment of the President," Cheney said in an interview with CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper."
Cheney believes Obama is "the worst president of my lifetime" and that "Jimmy Carter might have been a better President," but impeaching him is not going to accomplish much.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/politics/cheney-cnn-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/url]
doesn't the president have to actually do something illegal to be impeached?
[QUOTE=JXZ;45406568]doesn't the president have to actually do something illegal to be impeached?[/QUOTE]
No, they just have to have congress vote to impeach them. Although if they didn't do anything illegal (or what they did wasn't illegal enough, in Bill Clinton's case) there might be no consequence to it, and the party that did the impeaching might be seriously embarrassed.
Impeachment isn't the same as removal from office; removal is a consequence of impeachment.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;45406584]No, they just have to have congress vote to impeach them. Although if they didn't do anything illegal (or what they did wasn't illegal enough, in Bill Clinton's case) there might be no consequence to it, and the party that did the impeaching might be seriously embarrassed.
Impeachment isn't the same as removal from office; removal is a consequence of impeachment.[/QUOTE]
A possible consequence, to clarify.
Did the democrats try this on Bush?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;45406611]Did the democrats try this on Bush?[/QUOTE]
If they did try they didn't have a the votes at the time otherwise we would of heard something.
I do know the republicans tried it on Clinton and failed. The Newt Gingrich resigned as House Speaker because of it. You really have to do something bad to be impeached. 2 Presidents have bee impeached by the House by failed to be impeached by the Senate. Leading to none to be forcely remove from office. How ever Richard Nixon did resigned before he could be impeached by either the House or Senate.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;45406611]Did the democrats try this on Bush?[/QUOTE]
No.
Democrats were far more conciliatory through Bush's 8 years (and particularly his first 4) than Republicans have been towards Obama or the Democratic Senate.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45406898]No.
Democrats were far more conciliatory through Bush's 8 years (and particularly his first 4) than Republicans have been towards Obama or the Democratic Senate.[/QUOTE]
From wikipedia
[quote]On June 16, 2005 Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) assembled an unofficial meeting to discuss the Downing Street memo and to consider grounds for impeachment.
Conyers filed a resolution on December 18, 2005 to create an investigative committee to consider impeachment. His resolution gained 38 co-sponsors before it expired at the end of the 109th Congress. He did not reintroduce a similar resolution for the 110th Congress.[4][/quote]
And opencongress
[quote]Since President [URL="http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/George_W._Bush"]George W. Bush[/URL] took office in 2001, numerous local governments, party organizations, and members of Congress have called for impeachment proceedings against both him and members of his administration.(Look up opencongress impeach bush and it goes on to list examples) [/quote]
Though it doesn't really trump the republican attempts, I'm pretty sure for each presidency there were plenty of people saying "omg impeach"
I suppose as Bush's right hand man, Cheney clearly has no idea what makes a bad president.
[QUOTE=Medevila;45407275]Worst president you've ever seen? You're pretty old, Dick. I don't think Obama is worse than James Buchanan.[/QUOTE]
Or ulysses s. grant
Of all black presidents in history, Obama is undoubtedly the worst
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45407279]Or ulysses s. grant[/QUOTE]
Grant was a good man but overall mediocre President
People who hate on him because of his poor choices in friends and economics always forget that he formed the backbone of post Civil War liberal social policy
If it was anyone else, we'd probably still be segregated today tbh
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45407279]Or ulysses s. grant[/QUOTE]
more like useless S grant
[QUOTE=The Worm;45407525]more like useless S grant[/QUOTE]
I wonder if that was the "Barack O'Bummer" for people that were against him at the time, it sounds like it would be.
[QUOTE=The Worm;45407525]more like useless S grant[/QUOTE]
Fun fact, Ulysses wasn't his given name. It was the fact that he couldn't handle a gun worth a damn that his father used to call him useless. He just took it in stride and changes his name to Ulysses.
[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;45407862]Fun fact, Ulysses wasn't his given name. It was the fact that he couldn't handle a gun worth a damn that his father used to call him useless. He just took it in stride and changes his name to Ulysses.[/QUOTE]
No? Ulysses was his middle name.
Wikipedia:
[quote]Hiram Ulysses Grant was born in Point Pleasant, Ohio, on April 27, 1822, to Jesse Root Grant, a tanner and businessman, and Hannah (Simpson) Grant.
When Grant was 17, Congressman Thomas L. Hamer nominated him for a position at the United States Military Academy (USMA) at West Point, New York. Hamer mistakenly wrote down the name as "Ulysses S. Grant of Ohio", and he adopted this name.[/quote]
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