It's IGN but I thought this was really cool, shows how detailed the animations are.
[video=youtube;eyJOI4gTh-4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJOI4gTh-4[/video]
Ragdolls aren't necessarily animation as much as they are physics simulation. But the particles are nicely detailed like when the golf cart rammed into the golfers, and the little shards reflected light as they hit the right angles.
That was cool.
how do you do the car hood slide
[QUOTE=meppers;42299692]how do you do the car hood slide[/QUOTE]
Press Square/X when facing a car hood sideways, like not towards the windshield obviously. You might have to be running while doing it.
[QUOTE=meppers;42299692]how do you do the car hood slide[/QUOTE]
Press jump while sprinting toward the front of the car. You can also do it over low boxes and wide walls.
[QUOTE=Daemon White;42299639]Ragdolls aren't necessarily animation as much as they are physics simulation. But the particles are nicely detailed like when the golf cart rammed into the golfers, and the little shards reflected light as they hit the right angles.
That was cool.[/QUOTE]
if I'm not mistaken all of the ragdolls you see in-game are euphoria at work, which is an animation engine
[QUOTE=Agent Fedora;42299738]if I'm not mistaken all of the ragdolls you see in-game are euphoria at work, which is an animation engine[/QUOTE]
Which (I don't know the inner workings of an animation engine, this is my interpretation of how they work) probably works by calculating velocity at each bone in the skeleton (animation rig) and including the bending limits (Human's can only bend in certain ways, also to prevent the models from clipping with themselves) and then applying the physics simulation to the bones, giving the models the falling animations.
Every damn video I see makes me crave this more and more. Way too much nostalgia from my teenage years spending weeks playing San Andreas. Fuck.
I wish I had a PS3 right now. I had one but it was stolen in a burglary literally 2 weeks ago.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300239]Every damn video I see makes me crave this more and more. Way too much nostalgia from my teenage years spending weeks playing San Andreas. Fuck.
I wish I had a PS3 right now. I had one but it was stolen in a burglary literally 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
PC version will come, some day.
Then us PC users will have our cravings filled, and be full until the next GTA.
Pretty sure the PC version will have the video editor again and we can slow down time like crazy in it.
[QUOTE=SatansSin;42300289]PC version will come, some day.
Then us PC users will have our cravings filled, and be full until the next GTA.[/QUOTE]
GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300513]GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
I did as well. I played GTA 3 when I was young as hell, but the only GTA I played on PC was IV. Guess I just liked the graphical improvement and flexibility of modding that came with it.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300513]GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
I've been playing pc gta since 3 in 2002 and I really have to say that using a gamepad just feels crippling. sure there's analog car controls but free-aim just blows it out of the water imo
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300513]GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Sure, the upsides of PC are graphical benefits and modding, but I feel you.
I guess it's because ports are just ports, they're really built around the platform they were originally made for.
Kind of like how TF2 sucks shit on consoles.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300513]GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
You can always get a USB controller for cheap.
Man do I love moonlight sonata.
[QUOTE=Daemon White;42299856]Which (I don't know the inner workings of an animation engine, this is my interpretation of how they work) probably works by calculating velocity at each bone in the skeleton (animation rig) and including the bending limits (Human's can only bend in certain ways, also to prevent the models from clipping with themselves) and then applying the physics simulation to the bones, giving the models the falling animations.[/QUOTE]
Look up Endorphin, it's an extremely similar system to what Rockstar uses in their RAGE engine for games like GTA and Red Dead Redemption. Unlike in a typical animated mesh, meshes animated using Endorphin/Euphoria are capable of reacting to gravity and other physical contact, and the bones are sort of puppeting the sections of the mesh, (All of which have different weights). When a character is running away from a car for instance, the animation isn't being effected physically by anything, but when the car hits a trigger tells the animated skeleton to basically stop where they are and drop. This not only allows for really fast switching between animation and ragdoll, it also allows the developer to inject animation 'snippets' into a ragdoll instance, creating a natural and realistic reaction to physical interaction. It's an amazing technology and I really suggest reading up on it or looking at the Endorphin demo thing. This is mostly from memory, I read up on it before GTA:IV was released and I thought it was mindblowing.
[QUOTE=Agent Fedora;42300669]I've been playing pc gta since 3 in 2002 and I really have to say that using a gamepad just feels crippling. sure there's analog car controls but free-aim just blows it out of the water imo[/QUOTE]
Driving feels a lot more rigid on the PC. No speed control, you just press W to hit the gas. You can't just ease forward easily, same with turning.
[QUOTE=loopoo;42300513]GTA just doesn't feel right when you play it on the PC. I grew up playing it on the console. I played GTA IV on the PC and it just wasn't the same, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Well I can see your point with GTA 3 and VC on consoles, I dunno why but the camera just feels a lot more fluid and the controls more responsive. SA, IV, EFLC, and soon V are all much better on PC however.
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[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42302085]Driving feels a lot more rigid on the PC. No speed control, you just press W to hit the gas. You can't just ease forward easily, same with turning.[/QUOTE]
With the III trilogy it doesn't matter as you'd just press x on consoles to accelerate.
This game looks stunning. It's going to look amazing on PC if it even has a modicum of optimization.
[QUOTE=tarkata14;42301598]Look up Endorphin, it's an extremely similar system to what Rockstar uses in their RAGE engine for games like GTA and Red Dead Redemption. Unlike in a typical animated mesh, meshes animated using Endorphin/Euphoria are capable of reacting to gravity and other physical contact, and the bones are sort of puppeting the sections of the mesh, (All of which have different weights). When a character is running away from a car for instance, the animation isn't being effected physically by anything, but when the car hits a trigger tells the animated skeleton to basically stop where they are and drop. This not only allows for really fast switching between animation and ragdoll, it also allows the developer to inject animation 'snippets' into a ragdoll instance, creating a natural and realistic reaction to physical interaction. It's an amazing technology and I really suggest reading up on it or looking at the Endorphin demo thing. This is mostly from memory, I read up on it before GTA:IV was released and I thought it was mindblowing.[/QUOTE]
Euphoria is one of my favourite things in gaming
Every game I play that doesn't have Euphoria just looks so fucking primitive and shitty compared to all the R* games that use the technology
Can we just hurry up and use it for every game now or what
Car deformation too, I don't think there is anything more lame than pre determined car damage, other than ragdolls of course
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;42302565]With the III trilogy it doesn't matter as you'd just press x on consoles to accelerate.[/QUOTE]
now it all makes sense, never played IV/EFLC on a console
there should be a keyboard with a thumbstick in place of the WASD keys, that'd work yeah
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