Sony announces PlayStation Now game streaming service - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/7/5284294/sony-announces-playstation-now-cloud-gaming"]The Verge[/URL] [img]http://i.imgur.com/j4pkEe1.jpg[/img] [quote]At CES 2014, Sony has just announced PlayStation Now, a service that will bring streaming PlayStation games not only to PS4, but also PS3, PlayStation Vita, and even televisions, tablets, and smartphones.[/quote] [quote]The full service will let users rent games or pay for a subscription that will let them "explore a range of titles." Sony will launch a closed beta in the United States at the end of the month, and plans to roll out the service more broadly by the end of this summer.[/quote] [quote][URL="http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/01/07/playstation-now-streaming-game-service-coming-this-summer/"]Sony says[/URL] that the PlayStation Now service will first roll out on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3, followed by the PlayStation Vita handheld, and that "most 2014 US models" of Sony's Bravia TVs will support PlayStation Now. The service will stream full games, acccording to the company, and save your games in the cloud. You'll be able to rent titles or pay for a subscription service.[/quote]

Going to have to see this in action before drawing a conclusion. I hope it doesn't look too YouTube-compressiony

[quote]The full service will let users rent games or pay for a subscription that will let them "explore a range of titles."[/quote] i hope this doesn't mean it's going to be a seperate subscription over psn plus. they would be essentially making us pay twice for the chance to rent ps3 games...

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;43452152]I just want to be able to play my console and PC games on my phone, on the go. How many decades before we can have that[/QUOTE] Probably one more.

From the title I thought Sony introduced a new game streaming service for their consoles, you know, like Twitch.

This sounds pretty cool.

I don't have high expectations for this since both OnLive and Gaikai sucked.

Playing streamed games is the worst way to experience games, and my bet is that this won't be much better unless you have super fast Internet.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43453305]Playing streamed games is the worst way to experience games, and my bet is that this won't be much better unless you have super fast Internet.[/QUOTE] You don't even really need super fast internet, ping is a much bigger factor. That can really mess you up if the ping is too high.

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;43452152]I just want to be able to play my console and PC games on my phone, on the go. How many decades before we can have that[/QUOTE] You could theoretically do that right now. You phone sends your actions back to the PS4, the PS4 generates the video and sends it to your phone. Ever heard of a thin client?

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43453305]Playing streamed games is the worst way to experience games, and my bet is that this won't be much better unless you have super fast Internet.[/QUOTE] We'll just have to wait and see. People were saying the same about PS vita streaming and from my experience it turned out great. I don't use it much, but when I do it does a pretty good job.

[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;43452026]i hope this doesn't mean it's going to be a seperate subscription over psn plus. they would be essentially making us pay twice for the chance to rent ps3 games...[/QUOTE] If that's the case then they can fuck off.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43453305]Playing streamed games is the worst way to experience games, and my bet is that this won't be much better unless you have super fast Internet.[/QUOTE] For what it's worth, when I tried OnLive (PC streaming service) awhile back it actually worked pretty well. There was a very miniscule delay that might annoy other people depending on how sensitive they are to it, but for singleplayer games it wasn't an issue. Wouldn't want to do it with an online FPS or something but being able to rent a singleplayer game for a week at the fraction of the cost of buying it would be great.

[QUOTE=GHOST!!!!;43453737]If that's the case then they can fuck off.[/QUOTE] If there gonna go down that route, I hope that they: - Let us play any PS3 Digital Content we may have purchased on PSN in the past via this new service (ie you bought a game on PS3 and there for can play it on Vita, PS4 etc. over PlayStation Now). This includes PS Plus titles - A decent discount for PS Plus users, I'm talking half off the yearly sub or rental price for a game.

[URL="http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/7/5284730/playstation-now-hands-on"]The Verge[/URL] (Using Bravia TV) and [URL="http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/playstation-now-hands-on/"]Engadget[/URL] (PS Vita) have a video of it in action. The Verge says there's a bit of artifacts but it's pretty good. [editline]heheee[/editline] [video=youtube;ej3AuZVSba4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej3AuZVSba4[/video]

This is of little consequence to us in Australia.

[QUOTE=smurfy;43451714]Going to have to see this in action before drawing a conclusion. I hope it doesn't look too YouTube-compressiony[/QUOTE] The last generation of games were usually 720P natively, so I don't think you'd see too much of a difference anyway. If it was 1080P, then yea, you'd probably see artifacts.

[QUOTE=smurfy;43451714]Going to have to see this in action before drawing a conclusion. I hope it doesn't look too YouTube-compressiony[/QUOTE] It'll most likely be worse since YouTube can do non real time compression, streaming like this needs to use the fastest encoding possible since every ms matters. And that's why it won't work properly, there's too much latency on the internet. There's a reason why they show these streaming services off on a simple network with a direct connection to the streaming server.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;43459724]It'll most likely be worse since YouTube can do non real time compression, streaming like this needs to use the fastest encoding possible since every ms matters. And that's why it won't work properly, there's too much latency on the internet. There's a reason why they show these streaming services off on a simple network with a direct connection to the streaming server.[/QUOTE] You haven't tried Onlive, have you? It was really impressive. I had a ~30 ping and it didn't affect gameplay too much, precise aiming yes, but really most people with better internet (you know the audience playstation now is targeting) shouldn't notice a single difference between streaming and playing the game on your console for real, other than artifacts and a 10ms delay Coupled with that, and being that gaikai was as good if not better than onlive, then you have yourself a nice cloud based game streaming service.

Never tried OnLive because it never launched over here, but from what I've read from people who did try it, it was a blurry laggy mess (Which is to be expected due to how it needs to function) Them needing to put a rendering cluster inside each ISPs network in each city they care to support is a big deal, and is going to cause it to be really expensive.

I tried Onlive and worked really well on my old 24mbps ADSL -connection. Only bad thing was the apparent 1024x768 resolution or something like that, it looked fugly.

[QUOTE=smurfy;43451714]Going to have to see this in action before drawing a conclusion. I hope it doesn't look too YouTube-compressiony[/QUOTE] The compression used in these game streaming services is usually superb, however limited to 30 fps. [editline]8th January 2014[/editline] My system networks tutor was telling me about it being good for single player games but not good for twitch shooters.

If this means I could play The Last Of Us (and the few other good PS exclusives that i never got a chance to try out) without buying a Playstation then sign me up

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;43459724]It'll most likely be worse since YouTube can do non real time compression, streaming like this needs to use the fastest encoding possible since every ms matters. And that's why it won't work properly, there's too much latency on the internet. There's a reason why they show these streaming services off on a simple network with a direct connection to the streaming server.[/QUOTE] I tried Gaikai when it still was available for demos before sony bought them and it honestly worked fine, even on my piss poor line.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;43453756]For what it's worth, when I tried OnLive (PC streaming service) awhile back it actually worked pretty well. There was a very miniscule delay that might annoy other people depending on how sensitive they are to it, but for singleplayer games it wasn't an issue. Wouldn't want to do it with an online FPS or something but being able to rent a singleplayer game for a week at the fraction of the cost of buying it would be great.[/QUOTE] Onlive was great back when I only had a shitty intel graphics card. The multiplayer actually worked fine because the multiplayer only connected you to other onlive users so everybody had a similar delay, I spent hours and hours on homefront multiplayer which is dead on the steam version

Of course it's every platform but the one I really want; PC And I mention this because it's been stated as a [URL="http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/23/sony-would-like-to-bring-playstation-games-to-pc-tvs-blu-ray-players-smartphones-tablets-states-yoshida/"]possibility in the past[/URL] Though you could argue he doesn't decide policy

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;43465315]Of course it's every platform but the one I really want; PC And I mention this because it's been stated as a [URL="http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/23/sony-would-like-to-bring-playstation-games-to-pc-tvs-blu-ray-players-smartphones-tablets-states-yoshida/"]possibility in the past[/URL] Though you could argue he doesn't decide policy[/QUOTE] Android Emulator on PC + Playstation Now App = RDR, Demon's Souls, Half-Life 3 on PC [sp]Maybe. I'm not a scientist.[/sp]

[QUOTE=RautaPalli;43453303]I don't have high expectations for this since both OnLive and Gaikai sucked.[/QUOTE] This is Gaikai.. and everytime I tried Gaikai it worked great for me despite the low quality at times.