Dylann Roof, Charleston Church Shooter, Speaks at Trial: "There's nothing wrong with me[...]"
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[quote]CHARLESTON, S.C. — Seeming to abdicate one of his last chances to save his own life, the convicted killer Dylann S. Roof stood on Wednesday before the jurors who will decide his fate and offered no apology, no explanation and no remorse for massacring nine black churchgoers during a Bible study session in June 2015.
Instead, in a strikingly brief opening statement in the sentencing phase of his federal death penalty trial, Mr. Roof repeatedly assured the jury that he was not mentally ill — undercutting one of the few mitigating factors that could work in his favor — and left it at that.
“[B]Other than the fact that I trust people that I shouldn’t and the fact that I’m probably better at constantly embarrassing myself than anyone who’s ever existed, there’s nothing wrong with me psychologically,[/B]” Mr. Roof, who is representing himself, told the jury, which found him guilty last month of the killings at Charleston’s Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.[/quote]
[quote][B]Any prospects for mercy by the jury had perhaps already been drained by the prosecution’s disclosure, in its opening statement, of a white supremacist manifesto written by Mr. Roof in the Charleston County jail sometime in the six weeks after his arrest.“I would like to make it crystal clear I do not regret what I did[/B],” he wrote in his distinctive scrawl “[B]I am not sorry. I have not shed a tear for the innocent people I killed.[/B]”
Mr. Roof, who was then 21, continued: “[B]I do feel sorry for the innocent white children forced to live in this sick country and I do feel sorry for the innocent white people that are killed daily at the hands of the lower race. I have shed a tear of self-pity for myself. I feel pity that I had to do what I did in the first place. I feel pity that I had to give up my life because of a situation that should never have existed.[/B]”[/quote]
Well, there you have it. He's not even trying to mount a defense. He is just using the trial as a stage to martyr himself for white supremacy.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/us/dylann-roof-sentencing.html?_r=0[/url]
Nice little speech, but I don't believe him personally.
Lock him up and throw the key away.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51626959]Lock him up and throw the key away.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, no, don't. Its what he wants. Force him into intense therapy. Treat him like a victim, pity him to his face, tell him its not his fault. Drown the fucker in compassion, he'll [I]hate every second of it[/I] because he wants to be a martyr.
Don't let him be a martyr.
[QUOTE=usaokay;51626962]I hope he gets jailed for a very long time instead of getting a quick death penalty.[/QUOTE]
Death Penalties are never quick. Some people wait decades on death row for their execution.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51627030]Death Penalties are never quick. Some people wait decades on death row for their execution.[/QUOTE]
That's largely because the judicial process gives every possible chance for the defense team to appeal the decision, thus delaying the execution until every avenue has been exhausted. If the defendant has no defense team, and pursues no appeals, it would likely go much more quickly.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51626975]Honestly, no, don't. Its what he wants. Force him into intense therapy. Treat him like a victim, pity him to his face, tell him its not his fault. Drown the fucker in compassion, he'll [I]hate every second of it[/I] because he wants to be a martyr.
Don't let him be a martyr.[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt many will think of him as a martyr.
Not ever white supremacist or racist enjoys the thought of killing off "other races". The few who think of him as some sort of martyr will be the fringes of society, let alone white nationalism.
[editline]5th January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51627044]That's largely because the judicial process gives every possible chance for the defense team to appeal the decision, thus delaying the execution until every avenue has been exhausted. If the defendant has no defense team, and pursues no appeals, it would likely go much more quickly.[/QUOTE]
It will still take years. Maybe not decades like others, but it won't be any time soon.
IIRC people get automatic appeals when sentenced to death as well, though that may be on a state-by-state basis.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51627030]Death Penalties are never quick. Some people wait decades on death row for their execution.[/QUOTE]
Or you could do it like China
[QUOTE=shian;51627134]Or you could do it like China[/QUOTE]
Or north korea. Death by [I]mortar barrage.[/I]
China and North Korea: role models for a better America? [I]You tell me![/I]
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51627145]Or north korea. Death by [I]mortar barrage.[/I][/QUOTE]
This is America. Death by overeating.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51627160]China and North Korea: role models for a better America? [I]You tell me![/I][/QUOTE]
More at 11.
That's a nice little speech he shat out there, whole lotta good it'll do him behind bars from now until he croaks. Good riddance.
To be honest it would be better if no one published his little speech. Don't give him the satisfaction of being on the news. Just lock him up and forget about him.
What a piece of shit, a textbook example of a person that rehab will never work for. Life without parole, kill him, launch him into deep space on a one way research mission covering the effects of spaceflight on the human body, whatever it takes to keep him off the street is fine with me.
[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;51627339]To be honest it would be better if no one published his little speech. Don't give him the satisfaction of being on the news. Just lock him up and forget about him.[/QUOTE]
Right to a public trial prevents that.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51627412]If he truely thinks what he did was right, is he still a bad person?
I mean by my definition, he is absolutely unacceptable. But a bad person does things they know is wrong, this guy feels like he was completely in the right. He is fucked in the head, but is he a bad person?
I feel a little philosophic.[/QUOTE]
Right and wrong is mostly left to the consensus of the masses and/or the rule of law established by such. Deciding you are right or wrong has no bearing on that reality.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51627412]If he truely thinks what he did was right, is he still a bad person?
I mean by my definition, he is absolutely unacceptable. But a bad person does things they know is wrong, this guy feels like he was completely in the right. He is fucked in the head, but is he a bad person?
I feel a little philosophic.[/QUOTE]
You're asking if the guy who shot up a church and killed nine people and has no regrets about it is a bad person, simply because he feels he was in the right.
Are you fucking serious?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51627412]If he truely thinks what he did was right, is he still a bad person?
I mean by my definition, he is absolutely unacceptable. But a bad person does things they know is wrong, this guy feels like he was completely in the right. He is fucked in the head, but is he a bad person?
I feel a little philosophic.[/QUOTE]
You're overthinking this. People are doing this with criminals recently, and I really don't get it.
You steal other peoples shit. You are a bad person.
You rape people. You are a bad person, unquestionably so.
You shoot up a church? You are most certainly a bad person.
Shades of gray only go so far.
[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/dylann-roof-says-its-not-fair-he-has-to-hear-so-much-from-the-loved-ones-of-his-victims/2017/01/05/e77a2156-d347-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?postshare=8831483639633384]Dylann Roof complaining it's not fair for prosecutors to present extensive testimony about the effects of the shooting[/url]
Cry me a river.
Guys chill out on RenegadeCop, its not like hes saying hes a good person at all it was just a dumb little philosophical question and for some reason people have to go ape shit.
I don't understand why people always have to jump on people here in these forums for the dumbest shit sometimes.
I'm glad he said that, because denying that he is crazy and saying that he doesn't regret what he did seems like he will stay in jail for a long time.
Welp, figured this would be getting into high gear right when I head back to Charleston this week.
I just hope he rots in a cell for a very, very long time- heck, I normally don't support the idea of tossing people in isolation cells, but he ought to get stuck in one for the rest of his life.
the way he talks sounds eerily like an ISIS member or something of the sort,
[QUOTE=RaptorJGW;51627840]I'm glad he said that, because denying that he is crazy and saying that he doesn't regret what he did seems like he will stay in jail for a long time.[/QUOTE]
No matter what, he's spending the rest of his life in prison, so the real question whether or not he will actually receive the death penalty.
(signs points to yes)
I fully support the death penalty for him. He's a despicable person who deserves to lose his life as a just punishment for his actions.
Even though I don't think he should, it's pretty apparent he'll get the death penalty. He quite literally even believes it himself.
Though, I wonder if he'll appeal it forever like most do iirc on death row, or won't bother.
It's a shame that NC doesn't use firing squads; that would be an ironic way to get rid of him.
There's no reason to keep him alive though. Lethal injection it is.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51627778][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/dylann-roof-says-its-not-fair-he-has-to-hear-so-much-from-the-loved-ones-of-his-victims/2017/01/05/e77a2156-d347-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?postshare=8831483639633384"]Dylann Roof complaining it's not fair for prosecutors to present extensive testimony about the effects of the shooting[/URL]
Cry me a river.[/QUOTE]
I guess killing people has unintended consequences.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51627902]Even though I don't think he should, it's pretty apparent he'll get the death penalty. He quite literally even believes it himself.
Though, I wonder if he'll appeal it forever like most do iirc on death row, or won't bother.[/QUOTE]
If he bothered with a lawyer, maybe. Doubt that will happen in this case.
There's no doubt about guilt, there's no questions about rehab.
One of the only times I actually feel completely okay with the death penalty.
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