• Divers discover 'Britain's Atlantis,' an underwater world swallowed by the North Sea
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/tMGKl.jpg[/img] (map not from same article) [img]http://i.imgur.com/4qBMg.jpg[/img] [quote]Working with University of St. Andrews science teams, divers found remains of a huge area of land that stretched from Scotland to Denmark and slowly submerged by water. [b]The 'drowned world' is said to have been the 'real heartland' of Europe, housing tens of thousands of people in an area that stretched from Northern Scotland across to Denmark and down the English Channel as far as the Channel Islands.[/b] Once roamed by mammoths, Doggerland was hit by ‘a devastating tsunami', the researchers say. “The name was coined for Dogger Bank, but it applies to any of several periods when the North Sea was land,” said Richard Bates of the University of St. Andrews. [b]“Around 20,000 years ago, there was a 'maximum' - although part of this area would have been covered with ice. When the ice melted, more land was revealed - but the sea level also rose.[/b] “Through a lot of new data from oil and gas companies, we’re able to give form to the landscape - and make sense of the mammoths found out there, and the reindeer. We’re able to understand the types of people who were there. [b]“People seem to think rising sea levels are a new thing - but it’s a cycle of Earth history that has happened many many times.”[/b] Bones found by North Sea fishermen had prompted speculations about the existence of the lost land, but the there were no clues as to how it looked like. [b]“We have now been able to model its flora and fauna, build up a picture of the ancient people that lived there and begin to understand some of the dramatic events that subsequently changed the land, including the sea rising and a devastating tsunami,”[/b] Bates explained. The St. Andrews, Dundee and Aberdeen universities have now displayed the results of their 15-year-project on the lost land in an exhibition in London. The show will display artifacts recovered from the seabed at the Royal Society Summer Science Exhibition until July 8. Visitors can see an interactive video showing them how the land might have looked with hills and valleys, large swamps and lakes with major rivers dissecting a convoluted coastline. “There is actually very little evidence left because much of it has eroded underwater; it's like trying to find just part of a needle within a haystack,” said Dr. Bates. “What we have found though is a remarkable amount of evidence and we are now able to pinpoint the best places to find preserved signs of life.” [/quote] [url]http://presstv.com/detail/2012/07/03/249189/divers-discover-hidden-underwater-world/[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland[/url] Pretty cool. Makes you wonder how many other prehistoric settlements there are laying around underwater, hidden from rising seas.
Their sacrifice was not in vain, for if Doggerland had not been lost, the Germans would have marched all over the British v:v:v [editline]5th July 2012[/editline] Seriously though this is pretty fucking cool. Hard to imagine a world without the channel, though.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4qBMg.jpg[/IMG] Wow, that's a lot of land lost to rising seas for just being 10 000 years.
Imagine how history would change if Doggerland still existed to this day.
Instead of the "English Channel" we would have "The Gulf of England", as well as possibly a 'Gulf of Scotland' and 'Gulf of Denmark'. Man, the Vikings would have never raided England at all. They would have just sacked Doggerland all over. [editline]5th July 2012[/editline] And the Netherlands would go from one of the most amazing naval histories in the world to just another landlocked country in the crossroads of empires.
imagine in 10000 years, news articles about a strange land called "holland" who was swallowed by the sea
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;36630452]imagine in 10000 years, news articles about a strange land called "holland" who was swallowed by the sea[/QUOTE] or "florida"
[QUOTE=TheHydra;36630466]or "florida"[/QUOTE] But no one remembers Denmark because all the buildings were built entirely out of legos and washed up into Germany over the years. [editline]5th July 2012[/editline] Everybody moved from Germany because of the danger of stepping on one.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;36630466]or "florida"[/QUOTE] In this land of Florida researchers have found what they believe, was once a sacrificial shrine to the gods. Particularly, a god which they called "Apollo" [img]http://i.imgur.com/xFoNE.jpg[/img]
Wow that is incredibly fascinating, i wonder how many more similar instances of this have happened that we don't know about.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;36630536]Wow that is incredibly fascinating, i wonder how many more similar instances of this have happened that we don't know about.[/QUOTE] Well this is what the Earth looked like 10 000 years ago; [IMG]http://www.theresilientearth.com/files/images/lgm_earth_map.jpg[/IMG] When all that ice melted, all that land you see there disappeared. That's a loooot of land, and by this time there lived people in every continent (excluding the obvious antarctica). Australia, North America etc. - all of which lost a lot of land if you look at for instance the US' east coast, or northern Australia. And especially Indonesia. Hell, you could walk from Britain, through Europe, cross Russia and the Bering strait which then was a landmass and actually walk into America. People like to live by water, so there might be a lot. Even off North America we might find some ancient native American tools off the coast, though that's highly unlikely over all these years of eroding it down and washing it about.
I was looking for that map. Thanks.
I've been getting into anthropology lately, and this is really awesome. Just imagine what kind of cultures could have existed/did exist there, what kinds of languages, what kinds of people. It's tantalizing.
[QUOTE=mac338;36630677]Well this is what the Earth looked like 10 000 years ago; [IMG]http://www.theresilientearth.com/files/images/lgm_earth_map.jpg[/IMG] When all that ice melted, all that land you see there disappeared. That's a loooot of land, and by this time there lived people in every continent (excluding the obvious antarctica). Australia, North America etc. - all of which lost a lot of land if you look at for instance the US' east coast, or northern Australia. And especially Indonesia. Hell, you could walk from Britain, through Europe, cross Russia and the Bering strait which then was a landmass and actually walk into America. People like to live by water, so there might be a lot. Even off North America we might find some ancient native American tools off the coast, though that's highly unlikely over all these years of eroding it down and washing it about.[/QUOTE] Wow, that's really neat.
[img]http://historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/brazilmercator_medium.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36630417]Instead of the "English Channel" we would have "The Gulf of England", as well as possibly a 'Gulf of Scotland' and 'Gulf of Denmark'. Man, the Vikings would have never raided England at all. They would have just sacked Doggerland all over. [editline]5th July 2012[/editline] And the Netherlands would go from one of the most amazing naval histories in the world to just another landlocked country in the crossroads of empires.[/QUOTE] Not to mention how much it would've changed the World Wars.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36630417]Man, the Vikings would have never raided England at all. They would have just sacked Doggerland all over.[/QUOTE]We even got as far as baghdad, don't think a little turn around doggerland would've stopped us.
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;36631029]We even got as far as Baghdad, don't think a little turn around doggerland would've stopped us.[/QUOTE] Puts a really confusing thought into the head, a Viking longboat raiding coastlines off the middle east.
[QUOTE=mac338;36630359][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4qBMg.jpg[/IMG] Wow, that's a lot of land lost to rising seas for just being 10 000 years.[/QUOTE] And yet Finland still keeps rising from the sea after the last ice age
[QUOTE=tomatmann;36630942][img]http://historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/brazilmercator_medium.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Hy Brazil. Pretty sure that the apparent alien message in The Rendlesham Forest incident claimed that Hy Brazil was the next evolutionary step for Humanity.
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;36631098]Puts a really confusing thought into the head, a Viking longboat raiding coastlines off the middle east.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Haloscott3/judahdesertwadi2ml5.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=OvB;36630315] Pretty cool. Makes you wonder how many other prehistoric settlements there are laying around underwater, hidden from rising seas.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, there will be lots more in about a century I assure you.
Steven Baxter has written an alternate reality novel series that takes place in Doggerland.
Isn't that the land that started the "Flood" myth, which appears in basically all religions?
my lecturer is one of the divers, he owns a company that laser scans sunken ships, as well as anything else in the ocean. They then use the data to reconstruct it in 3D and then analyse it.
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FraUxsnCivU/TP6cLTzFpqI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/jPpcbKQwvdY/s1600/Doggerland+10%252C000+BP.jpg[/img] That's a very different Europe.
[QUOTE=mac338;36630677]Well this is what the Earth looked like 10 000 years ago; [IMG]http://www.theresilientearth.com/files/images/lgm_earth_map.jpg[/IMG] When all that ice melted, all that land you see there disappeared. That's a loooot of land, and by this time there lived people in every continent (excluding the obvious antarctica). Australia, North America etc. - all of which lost a lot of land if you look at for instance the US' east coast, or northern Australia. And especially Indonesia. Hell, you could walk from Britain, through Europe, cross Russia and the Bering strait which then was a landmass and actually walk into America. People like to live by water, so there might be a lot. Even off North America we might find some ancient native American tools off the coast, though that's highly unlikely over all these years of eroding it down and washing it about.[/QUOTE] Of fucking course Madagascar is unaffected
Gonna lean myself out of the window and say that the "tsunami" mentioned in the article is bullshit since either there would've been ice or the form of the coast wouldn't be suitable for a devastating tsunami at all. [editline]5th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;36631098]Puts a really confusing thought into the head, a Viking longboat raiding coastlines off the middle east.[/QUOTE] We are talking about 10 thousand years. The time when Egypt was about to become a superpower. I think the vikings wouldn't even have developed into the vikings we know today.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;36631484][img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FraUxsnCivU/TP6cLTzFpqI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/jPpcbKQwvdY/s1600/Doggerland+10%252C000+BP.jpg[/img] That's a very different Europe.[/QUOTE] Ugh, Britain looks so fat.
Doggerland, once a country in it's own right, now just the car park of the Tescos on the outskirts of Swindon.
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