I thought this topic wasn't enough for Mass Debate, but this is just my theory.
Did you ever think how do you live your life? It was a dark and lonely night in my apartment, when I just couldn't sleep. And then I thought - Do we actually live our lives in real time or are we actually just remembering this?
Just come to think of it - Can you really be sure you lived something through If you can't remember it?
It may sound absurd, but really, what if?
the way I see this, is that we live the way we live, there's not much we can do about it so I'm just not going to do anything about it.
Even more interesting is the idea that, when you see something, when you feel something, it takes a slight time for the information to make it to your brain and for your brain to process it. So you really live your whole life with a slight delay compared to when everything you experience actually happens
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33962844]Do we actually live our lives in real time or are we actually just remembering this?[/QUOTE]
Free will, or at least the illusion of free will would dictate that that we live in real time, rather than remembering things. Although, sometimes you do become quite aware such as with Deja vu. I dream very vivvid things, but strangely enough Deja vu has only happened once (or at most, twice) in my life.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33962844]Can you really be sure you lived something through If you can't remember it?[/QUOTE]
I don't quite get this. I see it as Point A > Time > Point B. Just because you can't remember time between two points, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Take people with amnesia or repressed memories for example. I know I've got a few repressed memories, but I sure as hell know those things happened.
[QUOTE=zzzz;33962852]Even more interesting is the idea that, when you see something, when you feel something, it takes a slight time for the information to make it to your brain and for your brain to process it. So you really live your whole life with a slight delay compared to when everything you experience actually happens[/QUOTE]
That is irrelevant, nothing matters but perspective.
A very worthwhile question, OP
Who knows? Maybe today is the beginning of last week.
George Carlin done an awesome piece about what time is and the futility of it, think it was on one of his audio books either 'Napalm and Silly Putty' or 'When Will Jesus Bring The Pork Chops?'. I suggest you check it out :P
Bump, i still want to hear opinions.
I think everything that's happening is a memory. I can't not be remembering writing this as I'm writing this. By the time you've thought about it, it's the next second and that thought is a memory.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33962844]I thought this topic wasn't enough for Mass Debate, but this is just my theory.
Did you ever think how do you live your life? It was a dark and lonely night in my apartment, when I just couldn't sleep. And then I thought - Do we actually live our lives in real time or are we actually just remembering this?
Just come to think of it - Can you really be sure you lived something through If you can't remember it?
It may sound absurd, but really, what if?[/QUOTE]
you cant deny the present, otherwise you wouldn't be able to examine it. But the present is only a point continuity is the string of all points. Your percepcion of present is more then just that point, it senses the present as an interval, which is false.
I think that we live by real-time prediction, our memories can be real life, dreams and hallucinations so long as it can be a memorable event. The reason for real-time prediction is that an action such as turning on a TV can occur in real time however at this point I don't yet remember if the TV has a power supply therefore I can't yet call this a memory of me turning on the TV as I am unsure of what happens next - so I predict in real time all my actions including outcomes as a way of life whilst using existing memories to assist in the prediction of all my actions.
[QUOTE=zzzz;33962852]Even more interesting is the idea that, when you see something, when you feel something, it takes a slight time for the information to make it to your brain and for your brain to process it. So you really live your whole life with a slight delay compared to when everything you experience actually happens[/QUOTE]That delay is an incredibly small one, I don't think it's even noticeable.
Also, our brain doesn't process information in a linear way like a computer does.
[QUOTE=zzzz;33962852]Even more interesting is the idea that, when you see something, when you feel something, it takes a slight time for the information to make it to your brain and for your brain to process it. So you really live your whole life with a slight delay compared to when everything you experience actually happens[/QUOTE]
that time gap is so incredibly small though, that it is completely irrelevant
otherwise we would've been killed off decades ago by random accidents due to the lag in our reaction
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33962844]I thought this topic wasn't enough for Mass Debate, but this is just my theory.
Did you ever think how do you live your life? It was a dark and lonely night in my apartment, when I just couldn't sleep. And then I thought - [b]Do we actually live our lives in real time or are we actually just remembering this?[/b]
Just come to think of it - Can you really be sure you lived something through If you can't remember it?
It may sound absurd, but really, what if?[/QUOTE]
Honestly it's crossed my mind a couple times. But then I think to myself, if that's the case, how am I thinking something I didn't think of before unless I thought of it before?
Everything we experience is a memory, our brains are just fast processors so we don't see the difference, as it happens instanteniously.
So what you're saying is that everything has already happened and we're just remembering it all? What are we then? Are we dead or something? Maybe that's what happens when you die, you remember and relive your life over and over. Forever. Kind of a scary concept.
We're alive and we're not in some alternate simulated reality like the Matrix or some shit
No, we are remembering what happened seconds ago(man makes up a question, you receive it, process it, make up a response , he hears it and processes it), we process what happened moments ago, like real-time computers.
I like your theory aswell, though.
We're actually living our lives in an instantaneous void that exists slightly before any memories at all are formed
So I think OP is kind of right in that we're sort of in the future, looking back, when we think about ourselves
I've thought of this before, but consider it trash soon after.
One fact is that I'm an amnesiac. Forgetting quite well goes against it, especially when I regain the memories that were lost, and by regain, I mean, comes back to me, not reminded. When I don't regain memories however, I still retain it in unconscious form and it will re-appear in the form of behaviour towards certain events, items or people.
I considered it trash since memory loss denies its possibility.
keep in mind memory pretty much describes all though and sensory information in your brain. It's not just the traditional "memory" that we are used to talking about.
for example, your sensory memory is made up of pretty much every sensory detail that's currently being picked up by any of your 5 senses
your working memory is pretty much your active train of thought, or anything that you're currently focused on
so yes, we do live in memory, but that doesn't necessarily mean we live in the past.
don't think of memory as the past, because that's not entirely correct
These kinds of questions give me a strange feeling when I think about it. Just stop thinking about it, you'll drive yourself to the brink of insanity. It's like questioning "Is this real? What defines reality? Are we in a simulation/dream/vision?" etc.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;34035441]These kinds of questions give me a strange feeling when I think about it. Just stop thinking about it, you'll drive yourself to the brink of insanity. It's like questioning "Is this real? What defines reality? Are we in a simulation/dream/vision?" etc.[/QUOTE]
Never stop thinking about something because it scares you or you don't understand it. No one ever achieved anything with that approach.
I always think, that if you just came into existence at any moment in the past, even a few seconds ago with your brain exactly as it is, you wouldn't notice anything, because all your memories are in there.
There's a slight delay in processing information, I agree with that. But we, ourselves, do live in "real time" as far as we can experience it. Memories are recorded all the time and can be accessed any time you want, even when that memory occurred just a few seconds ago.
[QUOTE=jaykray;34038230]Never stop thinking about something because it scares you or you don't understand it. No one ever achieved anything with that approach.[/QUOTE]
Well, can you successfully answer any of the aforementioned questions in my post? How can we be certain this isn't a dream or a simulation? No matter how much you speculate on it, I don't think you're going to uncover an answer. But maybe with science, who knows. Anything is possible. It's perplexing though. I'm not saying to completely disregard the question at hand, but can you REALLY answer any of those?
there are many reason why we live...and memories is one of it.. "D
I have a shitload of deja vu moments if that counts.
Today I ate potatoes and my farts smelled funny
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