GG Allin live in the early 90s in New Jersey; WARNING NSFW

[Freaka]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftaDUmfsIDA[/media]

Corey taylor is a wimp compared to this guy

[Water-Marine]

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMSWRT6ynhs[/media]

So punk that he rebelled against human nature.

[butre]

he's got such a little dong idk how he functions

[Nitronik]

The hell did I just watch

[QUOTE=butre;48385881]he's got such a little dong idk how he functions[/QUOTE]

is yours any bigger? This kind of post doesn't make me think so.

[dannass]

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;48385930]The hell did I just watch

is yours any bigger? This kind of post doesn't make me think so.[/QUOTE]

And this kind of reaction to that kind of post makes me think the same of you.

He's probably just a grower, not a shower. But he's a punk rebel, so you know where he stands on that subject.

[butre]

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;48385930]The hell did I just watch

is yours any bigger? This kind of post doesn't make me think so.[/QUOTE]

if you're upset because his is bigger than yours then I'm sorry you have to go through that

[SuperPlamz]

GG DONG DEFENSE FORCES, ASSEMBLE!

Nobody should care about his dick anyway, since it's going to be smeared in blood and shit by the end of the show.

Man, his arse is smooth in this video.

[Rusty100]

the fact people praise this dude is just as disturbed as he is

[Instant Mix]

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;48385930]The hell did I just watch

is yours any bigger? This kind of post doesn't make me think so.[/QUOTE]

not trying to be a dick but fuck me that really is a tiny dick - a [i] wee cherub [/i]
and if you have to defend that... well..

[Rusty100]

the size of his dick is the last thing you should be concerned about in those videos

[Instant Mix]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;48388928]the size of his dick is the last thing you should be concerned about in those videos[/QUOTE]

i think someone who wanted to end their life by committing suicide whilst killing a fan is perfectly sane, no?

[Nillor]

[video=youtube;1968KhcKzbk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1968KhcKzbk[/video]

[h4ngman]

GG Allin was a sociopath, completely dysfunctional in the context of the society and culture around him. That's pretty sad, tragic and in some ways, scary. But instead of challenging himself to overcome his personal shortcomings, he found an audience and challenged them to acknowledge him at his craziest, wildest. He conquered his weakness by making it his own, by celebrating his eccentric, destructive personality. And that's also pretty fucking Punk rock.
A lot of people don't get why Allin is being celebrated at all: His music is mediocre, his behavior is disgusting, he's vile, violent, provocative and arguably lacks musical talent. But for all those reasons, he's one of the purest breed of punk rocker that ever lived. He doesn't behave the way he does for publicity or fame like a pop star "gone wild", he's just being what he is, it's his actual nature to want to be wild, crazy and disgusting. Sure, he did embrace his infamy and went on talkshows and such, but not for the sake of fame itself. He had found a way to make his shit-smeared, punch-happy, hooker piss gargling self function and quite well at that. He excelled at that, instead of conforming to anything, he just went out there and showed everyone that he COULD function outside of any social norms. Just by being himself, he represents everything that punk rock is about.
Is that a good thing? Is it art? Should he be applauded for being a rebel or shunned for being a talentless hack who smeared himself in shit for fame? Is he pretentious or genius? I don't think any of those questions matter, he was just the living, breathing incarnation of the ideology behind a musical genre without even trying and that alone is pretty damn cool.

[Freaka]

[QUOTE=H4ngman;48391462]GG Allin was a sociopath, completely dysfunctional in the context of the society and culture around him. That's pretty sad, tragic and in some ways, scary. But instead of challenging himself to overcome his personal shortcomings, he found an audience and challenged them to acknowledge him at his craziest, wildest. He conquered his weakness by making it his own, by celebrating his eccentric, destructive personality. And that's also pretty fucking Punk rock.
A lot of people don't get why Allin is being celebrated at all: His music is mediocre, his behavior is disgusting, he's vile, violent, provocative and arguably lacks musical talent. But for all those reasons, he's one of the purest breed of punk rocker that ever lived. He doesn't behave the way he does for publicity or fame like a pop star "gone wild", he's just being what he is, it's his actual nature to want to be wild, crazy and disgusting. Sure, he did embrace his infamy and went on talkshows and such, but not for the sake of fame itself. He had found a way to make his shit-smeared, punch-happy, hooker piss gargling self function and quite well at that. He excelled at that, instead of conforming to anything, he just went out there and showed everyone that he COULD function outside of any social norms. Just by being himself, he represents everything that punk rock is about.
Is that a good thing? Is it art? Should he be applauded for being a rebel or shunned for being a talentless hack who smeared himself in shit for fame? Is he pretentious or genius? I don't think any of those questions matter, he was just the living, breathing incarnation of the ideology behind a musical genre without even trying and that alone is pretty damn cool.[/QUOTE]

I bet you, there is going to be a next gg allin coming soon.

[hakkoru]

i'm rewatching the gg allin doc

can't believe the director managed to get him to perform at nyu

[Oboeshoes]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw7lUMC-m3Q[/media]
so wrong, but so catchy

[Pretiacruento]

Ya know what - I [I]get[/I] it... his performances were as shocking as his music, but... it just ain't my thing.

[butre]

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48412512]Ya know what - I [I]get[/I] it... his performances were as shocking as his music,[/quote]
not quite it [quote]
but... it just ain't my thing.[/QUOTE]
now you're getting it

[Fetret]

[QUOTE=H4ngman;48391462]GG Allin was a sociopath, completely dysfunctional in the context of the society and culture around him. That's pretty sad, tragic and in some ways, scary. But instead of challenging himself to overcome his personal shortcomings, he found an audience and challenged them to acknowledge him at his craziest, wildest. He conquered his weakness by making it his own, by celebrating his eccentric, destructive personality. And that's also pretty fucking Punk rock.
A lot of people don't get why Allin is being celebrated at all: His music is mediocre, his behavior is disgusting, he's vile, violent, provocative and arguably lacks musical talent. But for all those reasons, he's one of the purest breed of punk rocker that ever lived. He doesn't behave the way he does for publicity or fame like a pop star "gone wild", he's just being what he is, it's his actual nature to want to be wild, crazy and disgusting. Sure, he did embrace his infamy and went on talkshows and such, but not for the sake of fame itself. He had found a way to make his shit-smeared, punch-happy, hooker piss gargling self function and quite well at that. He excelled at that, instead of conforming to anything, he just went out there and showed everyone that he COULD function outside of any social norms. Just by being himself, he represents everything that punk rock is about.
Is that a good thing? Is it art? Should he be applauded for being a rebel or shunned for being a talentless hack who smeared himself in shit for fame? Is he pretentious or genius? I don't think any of those questions matter, he was just the living, breathing incarnation of the ideology behind a musical genre without even trying and that alone is pretty damn cool.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't know anything about the guy and I am not too interested in punk as a genre so excuse my ignorance, but how could he have functioned "outside any social norms" if he wasn't accepted, celebrated and supported by a group of people? I think I understand what you mean by saying that he doesn't act this way for fame or publicity and he was embracing what he was without conforming, which is the essence of punk. But would he have been able to function at all with no one to support him (financially, morally, emotionally whatever)?

Or what about people who embrace their crazy, wild, disgusting sides without conforming to society but never get a fan base, never get celebrated for sticking to what they stand for, never become an icon.

I guess my question sort of ends up being, why does he specifically embody punk rock?

[h4ngman]

[QUOTE=Fetret;48424142]I honestly don't know anything about the guy and I am not too interested in punk as a genre so excuse my ignorance, but how could he have functioned "outside any social norms" if he wasn't accepted, celebrated and supported by a group of people? I think I understand what you mean by saying that he doesn't act this way for fame or publicity and he was embracing what he was without conforming, which is the essence of punk. But would he have been able to function at all with no one to support him (financially, morally, emotionally whatever)?

Or what about people who embrace their crazy, wild, disgusting sides without conforming to society but never get a fan base, never get celebrated for sticking to what they stand for, never become an icon.

I guess my question sort of ends up being, why does he specifically embody punk rock?[/QUOTE]

I guess, part of what you're asking is if he shouldn't have lost punk rock credibility for needing people in his life, but that is exactly what punk rock is about. People who don't think they should tone down their behavior, be it acting in ways that 'regular' people don't approve of or just through appearance or musical taste, getting together and having a thing of their own, rather than doing what everyone else wants them to. The very essence of punk rock includes having people who support you.
I though this was a bit obvious but It's an interesting topic so I'll try to elaborate: It's not the fact THAT he found a way to 'function' that makes him specia, it's how he did it and that in doing so, he became recognized as a punk rock icon.

A lot of disturbed people can function with the help of friends and family, therapy, medication. But usually this involves toning down their craziness so they can better interact with normal people. Allin did NOT tone down his craziness in order to live a more comfortable and easier life, he never stopped acting out ever. Normally that means having to accept that you're not going to have a lot of friends. I wouldn't want to be friends with Allin and despite the fact that a few people who are really into him might claim that THEY would, I don't think there's a lot of people who would sincerely enjoy and embrace someone like Allin as a fundamental element in their social life at all. Would you let him live in your house for any length of time? Feed him? Share a bed with him? Provide him with booze and drugs all the time, especially if he had NO fame whatsoever and nobody went to his gigs? You would probably be a hopeless, crazy bum's only friend in the world. Acting the way he did, a person like him would get arrested frequently (which happend to Allin all the time) and he'd be out of opportunities in life really quick, probably becoming a really unpleasant homeless person sooner or later, unless they 'turn their life around'.
But Allin had a Band, went out there and acted the way he did and was so confrontational about it that a significant group of people became fans of his. He was a celebrity. Granted, an obscure, underground hardcore punk celebrity, but a celebrity nonetheless. He had crowds of people wanting to see his concerts. Yes, small crowds, but very passionate about seeing specifically him and not any other act. He had groupies and friends who celebrated him, celebrated WITH him. He was, after all, a person of renown and infamy, someone punk rock fans would idolize and enjoy.
He managed to function as a punk rocker, being one of the most infamous punk rockers ever.

So not only did he live acting out in disgusting, repulise way, drinking, taking drugs, acting crazy however he liked (that pretty punk rock already although many other peole do that as well), he did it performing in a punk rock band, completely centering the peformances around his craziness (punk rock level is rising) and the sheer degree of his utter madness was so open for display and so baffling that he eventually became known as the one, wildest and craziest punk rock performers of his time (punk rock level is way above average now), it was in fact the ONLY THING he did in life and he NEVER STOPPED DOING IT. He didn't just put on a wild performance and then went home to his kids, no, when he was done playing, he went to a friends house, drank more, took more drugs, thought it was a good idea to get a hooker to piss in his mouth, puke on himself because it wasn't nice like, he expected, try to have a wank anyway, then get arrested because he was out on the street acting the way he always does only stopping to pass out. The times he was on stage were literally just a little window into his life. Sure, he acted extra crazy because he was all fired up from being on stage, but it was all him. And people saw that he was authentic. He wasn't just some guy going on stage, acting weird for the sake of getting mad punk rock credibility, he was actually like that all the time. And that puts him all the way up there with other punk rock legends.

I totally get if you're not impressed by this. I myself can't say I'm honestly very impressed with any individual thing Allin did. But it's the whole thing, everything he did, the position he found himself in, the fame he got and the fact that a lot of people WERE actually impressed by him. Sure, you could say, Justing Bieber did a thing, he found himself in a special position and a lot of people are really impressed by him, why isn't he for example the same as Allin? Well, what seals the deal for me is that allin was one hundered percent authentic and just born to fit the role as a punk rock icon. And he went out there and did just that. Only he could have done what he did in the way he did it and he is unique as that. If someone else would come along and did the things GG did, he would instantly get in a position of having to rival GGs legacy. Because GG was the one, only guy who filled the place in punk rock history that was reserved for a GG Allin. He could have been some other person, yes, but now it will forever be GG Allin that we remember