Vladimir Putin attacks U.S. over recently revealed diplomatic cables. None killed so far.
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[quote](Reuters) - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin attacked the United States on Thursday over secret U.S. diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks, saying the West had no right to preach to Russia about democracy.
When asked about cables which cast him as Russia's "alpha-dog" ruler, Putin asked: "Do you think the American diplomatic service is a crystal clean source of information? Do you think so?"
He then criticized the West over the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who turned himself in to authorities in Britain this week after a warrant by a Swedish prosecutor who wants to question him about sexual misconduct accusations.
[b]"If it is full democracy, then why have they hidden Mr. Assange in prison? That's what, democracy?" Putin said, in the strongest Russian criticism of the affair.[/b]
[b]"So, you know, as they say in the countryside, some people's cows can moo, but yours should keep quiet. So I would like to shoot the puck back at our American colleagues," Putin said at a briefing with his French counterpart Francois Fillon.[/b]
The phrase is a colloquial term which is a Russian equivalent of "the pot calling the kettle black."
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B84EW20101209[/url]
Leaked U.S. cables cast Putin as a ruler who allows an elite of corrupt officials and crooked spies to siphon off cash from the world's biggest energy producer.
PRESSURE ON WASHINGTON
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said last week that the leaked cables showed the cynicism of U.S. diplomats whose cables cast him as the junior partner to Putin who had to get his decisions approved by his mentor.
But Putin's criticism ratchets up the pressure on the United States after one of the leaked cables said U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates had observed on February 8, 2010, that "Russian democracy has disappeared and the government is an oligarchy run by the security services."
That comment was cited in a cable from the U.S. Embassy in Paris.
French PM Fillon said at the joint briefing in Moscow that France needed no U.S. advice on how to deal with Russia.
"The French government does not need advice from the diplomats of any other countries about Russia," Fillon said through a Russian translator. "As to WikiLeaks, I will never comment about information that has been stolen."
During Fillon's visit to Russia, French engineer Alstom
said it has secured contracts with a host of Russian firms, including Rushydro, Rosatom, Inter RAO, Mosenergo and Russian Technologies.
It did not give details of the size of the deals, though Putin said that French companies were Russia's preferred partners for work on global energy markets. "French companies are for us the preferred partners in work on global energy markets," Putin said. He gave no further details.[/quote]
If it is about the release cables wouldn't that be a part of the wikileak thread? But this article is about the cables, not generally about wikileaks.
Putin is angry, hide your kids.
I love Putin!
America is fucked, Putin weel brake dem.
[QUOTE=RayDark;26591593]America is fucked, Putin weel brake dem.[/QUOTE]
i hope you die a slow death
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[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;26591618]i hope you die a slow death[/QUOTE]
I hope you realize you're an overreactive cock. And you [b]will[/b] die a slow death.
Take it easy people.
Lol
Putin's complaining about making people disappear.
Dumbs everywhere!
Why can't we chill the fuck down?
Wasn't Putin in the KGB?
[QUOTE=General_Xing;26591776]Wasn't Putin in the KGB?[/QUOTE]
No, he [I]was[/I] the KGB.
[QUOTE=General_Xing;26591776]Wasn't Putin in the KGB?[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I don't think anybody should listen to him on this matter.
Putin zing is best zing.
[QUOTE]"If it is full democracy, then why have they hidden Mr. Assange in prison? That's what, democracy?"[/QUOTE]
Putin confirmed for on-our-side :buddy:
I would have shit my pants if he had said that to me :ohdear:
When I read the title from the front page, I thought it was gonna be about WWIII or something, thank god.
john_frohman, please quit dumb bombing everyone.
finally a powerful world leader with the balls to say [i]something[/i] other than 'the release of classified documents is deplorablah blah blah '
Let's take a small look at the man's political career, shall we?
He was:
-Part of the KGB from 1975 to 1992
-On 9 August 1999, Vladimir Putin was appointed one of three First Deputy Prime Ministers
-On 31 December 1999, Yeltsin "unexpectedly" resigned and, according to the constitution, Putin became Acting President of the Russian Federation.
-On 14 March 2004, Putin was re-elected to the presidency for a second term, receiving 71% of the vote.
-On 8 May 2008, Vladimir Putin was appointed Prime Minister of Russia.
Gee, Mr. Putin, are you sure there isn't anything slightly fishy about your moments? Nothing at all?
Who is this john_frohman idiot who keeps rating everyone dumb what the vaginas?
[QUOTE=ewitwins;26591963]Let's take a small look at the man's political career, shall we?
He was:
-Part of the KGB from 1975 to 1992
-On 9 August 1999, Vladimir Putin was appointed one of three First Deputy Prime Ministers
-On 31 December 1999, Yeltsin "unexpectedly" resigned and, according to the constitution, Putin became Acting President of the Russian Federation.
-On 14 March 2004, Putin was re-elected to the presidency for a second term, receiving 71% of the vote.
-On 8 May 2008, Vladimir Putin was appointed Prime Minister of Russia.
Gee, Mr. Putin, are you sure there isn't anything slightly fishy about your moments? Nothing at all?[/QUOTE]
Yeltsin drank himself to death and he pretty much fubared things during the constitutional crisis in '93.
Putin is using [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_populum]an ad populum logical fallacy[/url]
Just because the US is corrupt a bit doesn't mean it's alright for Russia to be.
Please don't kill me, Putin :ohdear:
I don't think Putin has the best track record to be talking about this.
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merge killer
[QUOTE=Explosions;26591724]Lol
Putin's complaining about making people disappear.[/QUOTE]
At least he's not subtle about it, and doesn't really make excuses. Its common knowledge that Russia is very corrupt. Democratic public relations can be such a joke. Doing unjust & awful things, then hiding under the guise of "democracy and justice"
"yeah bro, we negligently killed 100,000 civilians in Iraq and 15,000 in Afghanistan to stop terrorism and bring democracy," comes to mind.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;26592149]At least he's not subtle about it[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously suggesting that is justification?
[quote]Vladimir Putin attacks U.S.[/quote]
What I read from front page. Was ready for WWIII.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;26591963]Let's take a small look at the man's political career, shall we?
He was:
-Part of the KGB from 1975 to 1992
-On 9 August 1999, Vladimir Putin was appointed one of three First Deputy Prime Ministers
-On 31 December 1999, Yeltsin "unexpectedly" resigned and, according to the constitution, Putin became Acting President of the Russian Federation.
-On 14 March 2004, Putin was re-elected to the presidency for a second term, receiving 71% of the vote.
-On 8 May 2008, Vladimir Putin was appointed Prime Minister of Russia.
Gee, Mr. Putin, are you sure there isn't anything slightly fishy about your moments? Nothing at all?[/QUOTE]
Russia's still lucky as hell with him, even if it's fishy. He fucking worked magic with the economy.
Putin is definitely no model leader- he has brought Russia to a fairly level standard of democracy and development similar to the west, but at the cost of shadiness, loopholes, large-scale crime, government-corporation alliances, abuses of power, and, well, being Putin. He is a pretty badass guy, but come on, he's trying to stay in power for as long as possible.
Hell, when he was on his way out from the presidency, he raised the power of the prime minister by double, and then practically elected himself to that position and nominating Medvedev, who we all know is his puppet, into office. Their relationship is shady and it's obvious that they're close.
But he also doesn't take shit form anyone and is the reason Russia hasn't succumbed tot he western world and become some under-the-radar state with no real say in anything. He's kept Russia strong, so iunno...
Putin > Chuck Norris
Any day.
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