Obama administration says online companies that operate in America are subject to US data laws - Polidicks

[QUOTE]In essence, President Barack Obama's administration claims that any company with operations in the United States must comply with valid warrants for data, even if the content is stored overseas. It's a position Microsoft and companies like Apple say is wrong, arguing that the enforcement of US law stops at the border. "Congress has not authorized the issuance of warrants that reach outside US territory,” Microsoft’s attorneys wrote. “The government cannot seek and a court cannot issue a warrant allowing federal agents to break down the doors of Microsoft’s Dublin facility."[/QUOTE] [URL="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/obama-administration-says-the-worlds-servers-are-ours/"]http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/obama-administration-says-the-worlds-servers-are-ours/[/URL] This is going to hurt a lot of businesses that have anything to do with the US [highlight](User was banned for this post ("misleading title" - dai))[/highlight]

Microsoft won't like this at all.

Um how about no?

Lol fuck off how about you make your own internet shitheads and leave ours alone

[QUOTE=crazyjames;45400663]Um how about no?[/QUOTE] Don't beg them to stop, that only turns them on.

Misleading title. This just says that any company operating within America has to operate within American law. I thought this was already standard practice?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45400699]Misleading title. This just says that any company operating within America has to operate within American law.[/QUOTE] And then a ton of providers that have services in America try pulling out

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45400699]Misleading title. This just says that any company operating within America has to operate within American law.[/QUOTE] Thought this applied to every country? E.g Australian websites operate on Australia law, UK websites operate on UK law, Canada websites operate off Canadian law etc

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45400699]Misleading title. This just says that any company operating within America has to operate within American law. I thought this was already standard practice?[/QUOTE] They now have to hand over data they store that is not in America, this used to not be the case.

How long until nations start null-routing traffic coming in from the US as a way of telling the US govt to fuck off and take their dick out of every router.

Does this mean I have to start using old soviet-era server clones?

Christ, it's like you're trying to make computer-literate people across the planet want to go no-where near you.

[QUOTE=Jcorp;45400792]Christ, it's like you're trying to make computer-literate people across the planet want to go no-where near you.[/QUOTE] This is how every country works. If you want to do business in America, you have to abide by our laws.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;45401050]This is how every country works. If you want to do business in America, you have to abide by our laws.[/QUOTE] They should still be able to just subdivide the company into branches depending on region, Google already does it for Europe to avoid taxes for funds crossing the border. [editline]16th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;45400760]Does this mean I have to start using old soviet-era server clones?[/QUOTE] I wonder how incompatible this is with European privacy legislation. Worst (best) case it renders all Microsoft-hosted enterprise services illegal (and governments and corporations handling customer data will have to switch to Free(-er) alternatives). [editline]16th July 2014[/editline] It's unlikely to have that effect though (but Microsoft may lose a few contracts).

What if my company operates in both USA where I am forced to provide the data and at the same time in other country which legally prohibits me from collecting and releasing it?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;45401329]What if my company operates in both USA where I am forced to provide the data and at the same time in other country which legally prohibits me from collecting and releasing it?[/QUOTE] I doubt any information the US wants to collect is something that your government prohibits. Blah blah NSA.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;45401050]This is how every country works. If you want to do business in America, you have to abide by our laws.[/QUOTE] except ones on human rights