[I][B]I originally intended to post this on board where people could assist me in finding employment, but I never found one. So I guess I'll just share with you guys, a bit about me. If I'm violating any of GD's rules, I am sorry. We had threads like this in the past that went swell, so I assume based on that, that this shouldn't end in a train wreck.
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This is something I've been drawing out for quite awhile, out of the assumption that none of you really want to hear my business because we all have much more dire things to attend to than a short story and a train of my frustration and emotion in what has happened to me.
In advance, I'm warning you that this is going to be a lengthy read.
I'm a 20 year old male born in Virginia. I wont specify where as I'm sure the possibility of someone reading this that I know is probable. In Virginia, as a commonwealth state, laws are quite stiff and sometimes more restrictive than they are intended. In my case, a specific law comes to mind, "Felony Shoplifting/Grand Larceny".
In Virginia, the threshold for misdemeanor petty theft to become a felony is a mere $200. It may seem like a pretty reasonable number, as $200 is equivalent to roughly 163 McDoubles (excuse my humor), but this law was put in place in 1980, which is nearly three decades ago. Due to inflation, that $200 now equates to some $530. In other words, it is another outdated law that needs some attention from our senate.
As of today, several bills have been submitted to raise the limit from $200 to $500 or even to $1000! A grand for grand larceny may seem a bit too high, but when it is concluded that only one other state has a larceny amount set to around that of Virginia's own (New Jersey), and almost every other state has set the amount to $500-$1000 it really does not seem that far fetched.
In other words, people who are convicted of this crime, having narrowly reached that limit of $200 (The items I shoplifted totaled $246) are guilty of a felony. A felony in the United States essentially makes it far less likely that you will find a job, and with that felony being of the shoplifting orientation, you can basically kiss any retail employers goodbye. This means you are basically narrowed down to working either fast-food or restaurant (Which I worked hard for a mere $7.25 an hour) and you are almost left with no other options to take.
Even with education in mind (since Virginia does not allow for having one's record expunged if they are found guilty) we are not given the chance of rehabilitation into the world, but instead a cold, jobless, heartache. So far, since my sentencing in January, 2014, I have applied for 142 jobs in a 100 mile radius of my small city. I have been given an opportunity at only a Mexican restaurant as a busser making $7.25 (Which I truly love doing because I love work and I'm not the scum people think I am) and I have been given five interviews at Dollar General (A company that has a No-Felon policy).
In pursuit of a steady job, to support my Type-1 diabetic 17 year old wife, and the welfare of my entire family (Unlike most 20 year old guys, I actually want to help pay bills), I've chosen to attend community college and work towards an Engineering degree of sorts, considering that a factory job seems feasible enough. After all, my father had built my family working on an assembly line.
Well, while pursuing this degree, I need a job to pay for insulin, pump supplies, test strips, and a renewing of vows (To please my wife). Anywhere and anything would suffice at this point. Since the Mexican restaurant I worked at made some budget cuts, I was essentially forced to resign. I am now jobless while my teenage, diabetic wife works two jobs at retail and a restaurant. I am a bum to my family, there is no denying it. I feel lazy, and I sometimes find myself in tears when I drop her off at work while I'm left to hopelessly beg an employer for jobs.
Anyways, out of the "pity" zone and back into the "legal" zone. I was convicted of felony shoplifting after a friend and I made the particularly unwise decision to leave Wal-Mart without paying for $246 of China's finest in textile goods. Even though his share of goods came to a whopping $123 just like mine did, we were both charged in the full act of felony Grand Larceny. The items we took were T-Shirts, baseball caps, jackets, and shoes. After being caught, I couldn't help but slap myself at the decision I had made over some stupid apparel, but I thank god for it every so often.
I thank god for letting me get caught, so that I could improve and dump the low life scum I was hanging around. I made it a goal to improve. I've started working out and I'm trying harder than ever to find employment. I proposed to my girlfriend and we married several months later. I'm was happy, and I remained optimistic through the grueling 200 hours of community service I was sentenced to. Even after having completed my required service, I'd chosen to attend to Autism awareness campaigns and other community service, and I'd searched for diabetes awareness campaigns (Which I've yet to find in my area and help finding a CS involving diabetes would be great).
So I sometimes ask myself, "Why am I not being given the chance to shine brightly?" It is a legitimate question. I'm putting hard work in and I haven't been given even the slightest turn of a head. I just want to afford the necessities, and a makeshift wedding to please my wife (We were married in court with intent of having a wedding later). I have to dismiss these thoughts though, because I know with hard work comes good "Karma" and those that try will be rewarded.
I honestly don't know what I intend for this post to get me, nor do I expect necessarily optimistic feedback, because I did indeed commit a crime which I am paying for, and thus no pity or encouragement should honestly be displayed towards me. I have to make the motion to improve myself, but I feel like I'm reaching my capacity in doing that. I guess if anyone is in a situation like me, advice would be welcome, or if anyone has tips regarding a job or specific major that I may succeed in as a felon.. Well, bless you, I'll take anything. Maybe encouragement is all I need, despite not deserving it.
I will also answer any questions specific to my case if you're interested in the law behind my situation. I appreciate all of you on-lookers for reading this.
Thanks.
(Furthermore, I am in no way seeking legal consultation. The greatest thing you could do to possibly assist me is spread the word that Virginia is introducing bills to raise the legal Grand Larceny limit from $200 to $500 to prevent things like this from happening to people in their youth in the near future)
[quote]In pursuit of a steady job, to support my Type-1 diabetic 17 year old wife,[/quote]
[quote]renewing of vows (To please my wife). [/quote]
How long have you been married that she wants to renew vows?
So should we pity you or what?
Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.
[QUOTE=onebit;45057273]No. The worse the punishment, the less likely an act is committed.[/QUOTE]
I work in retail, we've had people try to steal things [I]while cops are chasing another thief.[/I] Crimes happen regardless of the penalty.
Try and pick up programming lessons from online sources (or save up for lessons/cheap books).
Computers tend to be a high demand field and they're practically everywhere. As a fresh high school graduate, everyone I met when asking about careers and employments told me the key was having skills and connections. With some work and practice, you could make some pretty neat mobile applications or be a web developer, both of which are possible to do independently from what I have heard. Said employment also tends to pay decently.
Aside from that, I wish you the very best of luck for you and your spouse, and above all else, never give up.
It sounds like you've turned you life around, and I respect you for that.
Felony charge for stealing from a Walmart sounds rediculous in my opinion. Just worked it out, that's around £70 worth of stuff and they slap that on you.
As for employment, you've got some experience bussing at the restaurant, and experience will definitely help you. The only thing I can think to do would be to literally spam everywhere with a CV that even vaguely serves food. Or have you thought about doing something else to make money while you complete your college course, like self employment? I'm not sure how much a welding course is but I know you can make good $ being a welder. Hell, i'd probably start flipping antiques on Ebay or something.
Good luck anyway, you seem like a nice guy.
[QUOTE=Chains!;45057296]How long have you been married that she wants to renew vows?[/QUOTE]
I probably should have put emphasis on this:
We've been married for four months now. We got married in court with the intention of having a wedding at a later date. My family calls this proceeding a "Renewal of vows".
[QUOTE=NorthernFall;45057388]It sounds like you've turned you life around, and I respect you for that.
Felony charge for stealing from a Walmart sounds rediculous in my opinion. Just worked it out, that's around £70 worth of stuff and they slap that on you.
As for employment, you've got some experience bussing at the restaurant, and experience will definitely help you. The only thing I can think to do would be to literally spam everywhere with a CV that even vaguely serves food. Or have you thought about doing something else to make money while you complete your college course, like self employment? I'm not sure how much a welding course is but I know you can make good $ being a welder. Hell, i'd probably start flipping antiques on Ebay or something.
Good luck anyway, you seem like a nice guy.[/QUOTE]
Really appreciated. I've thought about flipping phones on ebay from craigslist. I've heard of some success in doing that. It seems like a common practice now days, though.
[QUOTE=FreeHat;45057369]Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.[/QUOTE]
He isn't asking anything except for advice and best wishes, so it's not like we have reason to doubt his story.
In either case, I am still happy to provide whatever amounts of both I can possibly give.
[QUOTE=FreeHat;45057369]Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreeHat;45057369]Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.[/QUOTE]
I've received various awards in school for writing and after role-playing and developing characters on Garry's Mod servers, I became pretty fluent with grammar. I made mistakes in what I wrote that are pretty clear. This is probably the only night I've been sleepless in months because I have my wife to comfort me. I can't sleep because I recently discovered that my attorney actually lied to me. He stated that I may have my record expunged in a year or two, when in reality Virginia does not expunge those who have been convicted.
In other words, I've just discovered I have to live with this for the rest of my life.
The decision to marry young is complicated and something I can only deem to be a personal decision. You'd honestly have to meet and hear us both out in real life to understand why we got married. It's a long story, full of cliches, ups-and-downs, and so on.
[editline]10th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;45057412]He isn't asking anything except for advice and best wishes, so it's not like we have reason to doubt his story.
In either case, I am still happy to provide whatever amounts of both I can possibly give.[/QUOTE]
I'm looking for encouragement. I want to be successful. People don't understand that criminals have a heart and desire achievement and fulfillment of life-long goals. I haven't met people in my situation who've become successful. My probation officer has done nothing of benefit to assist me or rehabilitate me.
Essentially, my probation officer offered to help me find jobs and send me to the VA Job center. Too bad I have had one meeting with my officer and as soon as that meeting was over I was transferred to "AnyTrax"- A phone reporting system.
My P.O showed me other people's files compared to mine. Each P.O here works 70+ cases. 3/4ths of those files were half the thickness of a bible. My file was two or three papers. My record is so pristine other than my Felony Shoplifting, that I'm only called for drug-testing once every quarter of a year. To compare, some people are called in twice a week.
[QUOTE=onebit;45057273]No. The worse the punishment, the less likely an act is committed.[/QUOTE]
This concept is called deterrence, and it is incorrect. Heavy punishment has little to no effect on any serious property crime or violent crime. Many violent crimes show a slight, but statistically significant, correlation that eve suggests the opposite; worse punishment results in more crime. Why that would be true is beyond me, but the point remains: the overwhelming consensus among criminologists is that deterrence isn't effective.
I know, it seems like it should be, but I promise, it really isn't.
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;45057385]Try and pick up programming lessons from online sources (or save up for lessons/cheap books).
Computers tend to be a high demand field and they're practically everywhere. As a fresh high school graduate, everyone I met when asking about careers and employments told me the key was having skills and connections. With some work and practice, you could make some pretty neat mobile applications or be a web developer, both of which are possible to do independently from what I have heard. Said employment also tends to pay decently.
Aside from that, I wish you the very best of luck for you and your spouse, and above all else, never give up.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, southern Virginia isn't exactly in high demand of people to operate computers outside of "Push button - open register - hand customer money". The majority of openings here are for factory jobs. Maintenance technicians are paid VERY highly here ($35-$60). Fortunately, my community college is completely paid for by the government.
I thought about the automotive industry, decided against it because it's too hard to start in. Now I've decided to proceed with an associates as an Industrial Maintenance Technician, composed mostly of electricity classes.
[editline]10th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=FreeHat;45057369]Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.[/QUOTE]
I forgot to add that I haven't lived a necessarily hard life at all. My colleague and I that blindly chose to shoplift had both been through pretty deeply wounding break-ups. He was also being beat by his father. I suppose since I was blindly sympathizing for him, I chose to do what he did. This is the first time in my life I've ever acted out in such a way. All of my friends consider me a leader, and I've even been told that I lead them and they follow. I can't put the blame on him, though. I guess we both just did what we did because we got a rush out of it that somehow distracted the pain in us. It was like having a cigarette when you are down.
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057452]Why that would be true is beyond me, but the point remains: the overwhelming consensus among criminologists is that deterrence isn't effective.
I know, it seems like it should be, but I promise, it really isn't.[/QUOTE]
People are told not to do something, suddenly want to do said thing. And the bigger the punishment they can avoid, the "better" they look among peers.
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057452]This concept is called deterrence, and it is incorrect. Heavy punishment has little to no effect on any serious property crime or violent crime. Many violent crimes show a slight, but statistically significant, correlation that eve suggests the opposite; worse punishment results in more crime. Why that would be true is beyond me, but the point remains: the overwhelming consensus among criminologists is that deterrence isn't effective.
I know, it seems like it should be, but I promise, it really isn't.[/QUOTE]
What about really mild crimes like theft or trespassing, surely heavy punishment has some effect on those?
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057452]This concept is called deterrence, and it is incorrect. Heavy punishment has little to no effect on any serious property crime or violent crime. Many violent crimes show a slight, but statistically significant, correlation that eve suggests the opposite; worse punishment results in more crime. Why that would be true is beyond me, but the point remains: the overwhelming consensus among criminologists is that deterrence isn't effective.
I know, it seems like it should be, but I promise, it really isn't.[/QUOTE]
I suppose that could explain the horrible crime rate in America? My crime held a maximum sentencing of twenty years.
I was sentenced to 3 Years in state penitentiary, although it was suspended. I still find it ridiculous someone can serve 3 years for $200.
Oh, I forgot to mention: I was sued by Wal-Mart for $450 in damages even though only $246 merchandise was taken and returned to them.
Have you considered starting a business of somekind? Freelance IT, for example. It's sometimes pretty abhorrent that people treat ex-cons the way that they do. You're trying very hard to earn an honest living, no wonder the re-offence rate in the US is so fucking high.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057495]I suppose that could explain the horrible crime rate in America? My crime held a maximum sentencing of twenty years.[/QUOTE]
crime rate has been going down for a couple of years now.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057425]
I'm looking for encouragement. I want to be successful. People don't understand that criminals have a heart and desire achievement and fulfillment of life-long goals. I haven't met people in my situation who've become successful. My probation officer has done nothing of benefit to assist me or rehabilitate me.
Essentially, my probation officer offered to help me find jobs and send me to the VA Job center. Too bad I have had one meeting with my officer and as soon as that meeting was over I was transferred to "AnyTrax"- A phone reporting system.
My P.O showed me other people's files compared to mine. Each P.O here works 70+ cases. 3/4ths of those files were half the thickness of a bible. My file was two or three papers. My record is so pristine other than my Felony Shoplifting, that I'm only called for drug-testing once every quarter of a year. To compare, some people are called in twice a week.[/QUOTE]
You can request a meeting with your PO at any time. In Montana PO1's work 90+ cases and still have the time to sit down with everyone. Sitting down with your PO will let you pick his (or her) brain for local resources. It may also be helpful to have the PO as a reference to assuade any fears about your felony.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;45057501]Have you considered starting a business of somekind? Freelance IT, for example. It's sometimes pretty abhorrent that people treat ex-cons the way that they do. You're trying very hard to earn an honest living, no wonder the re-offence rate in the US is so fucking high.[/QUOTE]
I'm considering just about anything. In the time I've had sitting around waiting for job interviews, I've been reading and educating myself. I've considered truck-driving, lumber jacking, welding, landscaping, construction, starting a dump truck business, and I considered Military until I discovered that the last Army waiver given out was around 2006-2008. At the moment, I'm really just looking for the one thing I think I'll be good at. I'm a creative person, and I particularly love automotive, guns, and machinery. I figured it could even be possible to start machining firearms, once I had my firearms rights restored (which is entirely possible after my civil rights are restored), though in my situation, I doubt it'd be the best option to start making guns from your basement with a felony on your record :v:
[editline]10th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057518]You can request a meeting with your PO at any time. In Montana PO1's work 90+ cases and still have the time to sit down with everyone. Sitting down with your PO will let you pick his (or her) brain for local resources. It may also be helpful to have the PO as a reference to assuade any fears about your felony.[/QUOTE]
I don't exactly have a PO. I'm on "AnyTrax". Basically, I call in once a month and a PO at the building reviews what I've said. Every single time I call in it asks the same questions, "Have you used drugs?" "Have you paid all court fines?"
It's the most rhetorical bullshit system ever.
It asks at the end if I wish to be contacted by a PO and I said I'd like to talk about employment opportunities. I never even got a call back. Sometimes I doubt they even listen to it.
[QUOTE=FreeHat;45057369]Something seems fishy, honestly. Great grammar, and yet lived a shitty life before being a felon. Renewed vows for only a year of being married... marrying some chick at 16-17, ect.
I'unno, call me a skeptic of the story -- but I do agree the law does need to be updated, or at the least, toned down.[/QUOTE]
Because smart or well educated people don't commit crimes? As he said himself, he started hanging around with the wrong kind of people, he could have been a smart guy that went off of the rails a little.
OP, good luck to you, I don't think you were treated fairly in court, but what's done is done. The best you can do is keep trying, and hope that people are forgiving of a mistake you made some time ago. Everyone makes mistakes, and you've paid for your crimes enough.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;45057539]Because smart or well educated people don't commit crimes? As he said himself, he started hanging around with the wrong kind of people, he could have been a smart guy that went off of the rails a little.
OP, good luck to you, I don't think you were treated fairly in court, but what's done is done. The best you can do is keep trying, and hope that people are forgiving of a mistake you made some time ago. Everyone makes mistakes, and you've paid for your crimes enough.[/QUOTE]
It means much to me that some people (Although few) think I've paid enough restitution. I don't have any real-life friends anymore because my friends judge me for what happened and they blame me for my colleague getting in trouble at Wal-Mart with me. People have tweeted me saying hateful things about what I did and how I'm the scum of the planet. People on other boards seem to think I'd have to die to completely make up for what I did wrong.
I've certainly killed off plenty of friendships in the past few months. A lot of colleagues I had hate my wife, and in turn I can't help but hate them. Anyone who starts something with her essentially starts something with me. They call her ridiculous things and spread false rumors. A few people post on Facebook and Twitter about us saying we're spoiled (because we live with my parents), and those people have jobs and complain incessantly about working 20 hours a week at K-Mart.
I think volunteering is the best thing for me until community college begins this fall. I want to fund raise for diabetes research but I don't know where to begin.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057519]I'm considering just about anything. In the time I've had sitting around waiting for job interviews, I've been reading and educating myself. I've considered truck-driving, lumber jacking, welding, landscaping, construction, starting a dump truck business, and I considered Military until I discovered that the last Army waiver given out was around 2006-2008. At the moment, I'm really just looking for the one thing I think I'll be good at. I'm a creative person, and I particularly love automotive, guns, and machinery. I figured it could even be possible to start machining firearms, once I had my firearms rights restored (which is entirely possible after my civil rights are restored), though in my situation, I doubt it'd be the best option to start making guns from your basement with a felony on your record :v:[/QUOTE]
You will never get your firearm rights restored. I'm sorry.
Legally, yes, the provisions exist to restore firearm rights, but I recently learned from the local head of the ATF that there is a little caveat there. Congress hands down their budget every year with a tiny stipulation that zero funds are to be spent on restoring felon firearm rights. If a local office is doing it, they technically aren't supposed to be. Call your local ATF office, I'm sure they will be able to tell you.
Unless you have serious legal knowledge or a terminal degree, you are unlikely to ever have your civil rights fully restored either. Your right to vote can be restored, but you have to apply and it is going to be a giant pain.
Burger king, by the way is commonly the most likely company to hire felons in cities and counties.
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057566]You will never get your firearm rights restored. I'm sorry.
Legally, yes, the provisions exist to restore firearm rights, but I recently learned from the local head of the ATF that there is a little caveat there. Congress hands down their budget every year with a tiny stipulation that zero funds are to be spent on restoring felon firearm rights. If a local office is doing it, they technically aren't supposed to be. Call your local ATF office, I'm sure they will be able to tell you.
Unless you have serious legal knowledge or a terminal degree, you are unlikely to ever have your civil rights fully restored either. Your right to vote can be restored, but you have to apply and it is going to be a giant pain.
Burger king, by the way is commonly the most likely company to hire felons in cities and counties.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Virginia as of June, 2013, automatically restores civil rights to felons. Since my felon is a state crime and not a federal crime, having firearm rights restored is a pretty simple process, since my crime was nonviolent in nature. Countless numbers of felons have had their gun rights restored through the court. The process requires a pardon of any sort and fully restored civil rights. I am having my conviction pardoned by the governor once I've officially paid all restitution.
A friend's mom is a felon for fraud and she actually owns and possesses about 30+ firearms. In my case, I "own" or "owned" five firearms, all of which I sold to my friend for a dollar to bury in a crate in his back yard.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057519]
I don't exactly have a PO. I'm on "AnyTrax". Basically, I call in once a month and a PO at the building reviews what I've said. Every single time I call in it asks the same questions, "Have you used drugs?" "Have you paid all court fines?"
It's the most rhetorical bullshit system ever.
It asks at the end if I wish to be contacted by a PO and I said I'd like to talk about employment opportunities. I never even got a call back. Sometimes I doubt they even listen to it.[/QUOTE]
You have a PO. Call the parole office directly and ask them to pull your file and figure out who, then ask to speak with them. If they aren't in, ask to either schedule an appointment or for when they will be in and their direct number/extension.
If they refuse, then ask for the name of the PO2/Sgt. They won't generally be pleased about PO's not doing their jobs.
[QUOTE=GunFox;45057596]You have a PO. Call the parole office directly and ask them to pull your file and figure out who, then ask to speak with them. If they aren't in, ask to either schedule an appointment or for when they will be in and their direct number/extension.
If they refuse, then ask for the name of the PO2/Sgt. They won't generally be pleased about PO's not doing their jobs.[/QUOTE]
I'll try it, but frankly I don't expect much assistance. This town is dead and has absolutely nothing going for it.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057612]I'll try it, but frankly I don't expect much assistance. This town is dead and has absolutely nothing going for it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I wouldn't expect much, but any little bit can likely do wonders at this point.
PO's also generally know the best way to apply for any local or federal assistance, like EBT.
If they are good, they will also help you fill out your fasfa, to go to school, or check your credit score to help you pass job credit checks.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057519]I considered Military until I discovered that the last Army waiver given out was around 2006-2008.[/QUOTE]
Who told you that? I had a violent crime waived during my recruitment process(Army btw). Call your local recruiter and tell them your story and see what they say. I don't think your charge would hold you back, I've seen much worse get accepted.
[QUOTE=Nestophales;45057716]Who told you that? I had a violent crime waived during my recruitment process(Army btw). Call your local recruiter and tell them your story and see what they say. I don't think your charge would hold you back, I've seen much worse get accepted.[/QUOTE]
If that's true I honestly think you may have saved my life. Google is telling me no, but on the army website, they say they average in the crime relative to the national average. In other words, since I'm convicted of stealing $200 worth of stuff and it's a felony, I may be able to have a waiver since the national average for the threshold is much higher.
Seriously, I was offered several amazing contracts in the military, both Marines and Army for outstanding Pre-ASVAB scores. If it turns out you're right, this may be my chance.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057727]If that's true I honestly think you may have saved my life. Google is telling me no, but on the army website, they say they average in the crime relative to the national average. In other words, since I'm convicted of stealing $200 worth of stuff and it's a felony, I may be able to have a waiver since the national average for the threshold is much higher.
Seriously, I was offered several amazing contracts in the military, both Marines and Army for outstanding Pre-ASVAB scores. If it turns out you're right, this may be my chance.[/QUOTE]
Hope it works out for you. Don't forget to keep the thread updated.
[QUOTE=Fox01;45057727]If that's true I honestly think you may have saved my life. Google is telling me no, but on the army website, they say they average in the crime relative to the national average. In other words, since I'm convicted of stealing $200 worth of stuff and it's a felony, I may be able to have a waiver since the national average for the threshold is much higher.
Seriously, I was offered several amazing contracts in the military, both Marines and Army for outstanding Pre-ASVAB scores. If it turns out you're right, this may be my chance.[/QUOTE]
Don't be afraid to keep putting your foot in the door with the military. I had to get waived for a GED(and then take a yr of college), my record, and medically for my clavicle. If you really want to serve, fight it and show them you want to be there.
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