New evidence in Trayvon Martin case: He was on the phone, details released.
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[quote]A girl who talked on the phone with Trayvon Martin on the night of Feb. 26 has told a state prosecutor that she heard rising fear in Mr. Martin’s voice that peaked with words like “get off, get off,” right before she lost contact with him and he was shot to death.
In the sworn interview recorded on April 2, which runs more than 22 minutes, the unidentified 16-year-old said Mr. Martin described a man who was “crazy and creepy” and on the phone, watching him from a vehicle before he started to follow him on foot.
The girl implored Mr. Martin, 17, who said he put his sweatshirt hood up because of the rain, to run to the town house where he was staying with his father, his father’s girlfriend and her 14-year-old son.
“I could hear the wind blowing” and “he said he lost him,” said the girl, who is from Miami and who said she had known Mr. Martin since kindergarten. She has not been identified because she is a minor and a witness in the case.
“He was breathing hard,” she said, and “his voice kind of changed. I know he was scared. His voice was getting kind of low.”
The recording is one of several dozen released by State Attorney Angela B. Corey, who has charged the gunman, George Zimmerman, 28, with second-degree murder. It is part of the discovery material made public this week that also includes hundreds of pages of documents and photographs. Mr. Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty.
Mr. Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer at the gated community called Retreat at Twin Lakes, in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place. He suffered a broken nose, black eyes, cuts to the back of his head and back pains, all of which he said were the result of a struggle with Mr. Martin, who was unarmed.
Mr. Zimmerman has told the police that he saw a suspicious teenager roaming around the Retreat and followed him on foot before losing sight of him. As Mr. Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle, he told investigators, Mr. Martin emerged and punched him in the nose before jumping on top of him and attacking him. Mr. Zimmerman said that he then shot Mr. Martin to save his own life.
Mr. Zimmerman’s lawyer, Mark O’Mara, said he was unable to discuss specific evidence. But he said the claims from Mr. Martin’s friend “make up one piece of evidence in the case and that it has to be taken within the context of all the other evidence.”
In the taped interview with a state prosecutor, the girl said that Mr. Martin, after evading Mr. Zimmerman for a while, noticed that he was being pursued again and mentioned this to her.
A sense of urgency grew. Mr. Martin alerted the girl to the fact that Mr. Zimmerman “was getting close to him.” She strongly urged him to run, but she could tell he did not because he was out of breath and tired, and kept saying he was close to the town house where he was a guest.
The girl, who talked with Mr. Martin several times that evening, told the investigator that she then heard Mr. Martin ask, “Why are you following me for?” She heard the other man ask, “What are you doing around here?” Earlier, Mr. Martin had temporarily sought cover from the rain by one of the buildings.
After calling out “Trayvon” several times over the phone, and getting no response, she heard somebody bump Mr. Martin.
Subsequently she heard him utter what sounded like, “Get off, get off.” Then the call ended.
Several weeks after Mr. Martin’s death, his father, Tracy, discovered that his son had been talking to the girl just before he was shot. He learned this by reviewing Mr. Martin’s phone bills. She was subsequently interviewed by the Martin family’s lawyer, Benjamin L. Crump, but not by the Sanford police.
One police document contained in the discovery concluded, “The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialogue in an effort to dispel each party’s concerns.”
It added, “There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter.”[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/19/us/trayvon-martins-friend-tells-what-she-heard-on-phone.html[/url]
The full interview tape (couldn't find just the tape): [url]http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/18/i_know_he_was_scared_trayvon[/url]
It was raining?
I mean, I haven't been fully following this case fully but I don't remember any pictures of the place having even a single rain puddle and afaik they were taken the same night.
Gotta love those things that show up ages after the actual happenings.
[i]Riiiiight.[/i]
Oh my god who the hell cares he's a gangster fre$h minority who tried to mug another minority. What I mean is I'm suprised people are still following this after all the audio editing and inconsistencies.
[QUOTE]Subsequently she heard him utter what sounded like, “Get off, get off.” Then the call ended.[/QUOTE]
That's where I declared to myself that this is utter bullshit, why the hell would it just go off like that?
This can't actually be used can it, there is no proof but her word.
[QUOTE]“He was breathing hard,” she said, and “his voice kind of changed. I know he was scared. His voice was getting kind of [B]low[/B].”[/QUOTE]
Too bad that its the other way around?!
I read the title and presumed it was parody article or something after the THC one.
[QUOTE=Garik;36015383]That's where I declared to myself that this is utter bullshit, why the hell would it just go off like that?[/QUOTE]
dropped the phone? call end button got pressed?
[QUOTE=Zah;36015469]dropped the phone? call end button got pressed?[/QUOTE]
The text is making it seem like he was already on the ground when the call ended.
Also, if this was actually true, then why the hell wasn't the phone found?
Am I the only one who's fucking tired of hearing about this Trayvon stuff?
NEW EVIDENCE IN TRAYVON MARTIN CASE
[I]Trayvon was walking slightly faster than predicted[/I]
Isn't the police able to check the call? I thought that stuff was recorded and everything
[QUOTE=MisterSjeiks;36015714]Isn't the police able to check the call? I thought that stuff was recorded and everything[/QUOTE]this isn't soviet russia, or china.
but dammit we're getting there.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36015770]this isn't soviet russia, or china.
but dammit we're getting there.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain all calls are monitored for anti-terrorist purposes.
It seems like every couple of days there is a new piece of "evidence" from either side that contradicts everything the other one is saying and filling the story with nothing but holes
Phone companies keep call logs, which I'm sure the police have already subpoena'd for the court case.
Talk about a biased witness report, that's not a witness account she wasn't there; and she can obviously say whatever she wants about what she "heard".
[editline]19th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Coffee;36015795]I'm fairly certain all calls are monitors for anti-terrorist purposes.[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=MisterSjeiks;36015714]Isn't the police able to check the call? I thought that stuff was recorded and everything[/QUOTE]
They have call logs yes, so they know when calls were made, but they don't record freaking [I]every call made[/I] unless you are a Mob boss, of Middle Eastern descent, or have otherwise made yourself involved in crime.
[QUOTE]Several weeks after Mr. Martin’s death, his father, Tracy, discovered that his son had been talking to the girl just before he was shot. He learned this by reviewing Mr. Martin’s phone bills.[/QUOTE]
They already have the call log, that's how they found out in the first place..
At this point they're just making shit up and playing along with the whole sensationalist media.
I mean look at this shit, it was the hottest topic sense 9/11 and now they hardly mention it in the media (Expect for online posts, etc)
[QUOTE=MR-X;36016392]At this point they're just making shit up and playing along with the whole sensationalist media.
I mean look at this shit, it was the hottest topic sense 9/11 and now they hardly mention it in the media (Expect for online posts, etc)[/QUOTE]
What on earth are you on about
Wow it's sad so many people are equating the TV edit debacle with complete clearing of Zimmerman. You people are fucking herp derping over this without consideration or seriousness. I mean holy shit, you people are incredibly sad human beings.
Trayvon's girlfriend account seems to correlate with other witnesses, which contradicts Zimmerman's claim that he was attacked from the back when he got out of his car. Moreover, this puts a huge dent in the self-defense claim since this shows Zimmerman actively pursued Trayvon and confronted him.
So either Zimmerman changes his story, or he sticks to it, which will make him look bad either way.
[URL="http://soundcloud.com/thinkprogress"]Then we have a former colleague of Zimmerman who got harassed and taunted with racist stuff because he is ACHMED THE TERRORIST. Zimmerman was fired months later for spamming to HR hotline to complain about every employee and manager.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Heigou;36015097]It was raining?
I mean, I haven't been fully following this case fully but I don't remember any pictures of the place having even a single rain puddle and afaik they were taken the same night.[/QUOTE]
It's Florida.
[QUOTE=Florence;36016818]Wow it's sad so many people are equating the TV edit debacle with complete clearing of Zimmerman. You people are fucking herp derping over this without consideration or seriousness. I mean holy shit, you people are incredibly sad human beings.
Trayvon's girlfriend account seems to correlate with other witnesses, which contradicts Zimmerman's claim that he was attacked from the back when he got out of his car. Moreover, this puts a huge dent in the self-defense claim since this shows Zimmerman actively pursued Trayvon and confronted him.
So either Zimmerman changes his story, or he sticks to it, which will make him look bad either way.
[URL="http://soundcloud.com/thinkprogress"]Then we have a former colleague of Zimmerman who got harassed and taunted with racist stuff because he is ACHMED THE TERRORIST. Zimmerman was fired months later for spamming to HR hotline to complain about every employee and manager.[/URL][/QUOTE]
you do realize that in the fiasco Zimmerman was the one who was wanted to go to jail
he was basically like Casey Anthony
why are you implying that he's always been marked as innocent? it's the complete opposite
i also have to disagree with your opinions
[QUOTE=MR-X;36016392]At this point they're just making shit up and playing along with the whole sensationalist media.
I mean look at this shit, it was the hottest topic sense 9/11 and now they hardly mention it in the media (Expect for online posts, etc)[/QUOTE]
Iunno, I was watching late night CNN and saw that they had this bullshit Trayvon/Zimmerman crap going on.
I didn't watch it, at all.
Actually I was also talking to Trayvon as well!
[QUOTE=SatansSin;36017008]Iunno, I was watching late night CNN and
I didn't watch it, at all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;36015437]Too bad that its the other way around?![/QUOTE]
this was during the conversation, not during the altercation...
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