President Obama has officially signed the bill, enacting both the $1.1 trillion budget and CISA - Polidicks

[img_thumb]http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/92e462b6f29483a719d2b02e8cd9a9fc/203155587/cisa.jpg[/img_thumb] [quote]Earlier today, the US House of Representatives passed a 2,000-page omnibus budget bill that contains the entirety of the controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act. Just moments ago, the Senate passed it too. Now the bill is on its way to President Barack Obama's desk, where he has the option to veto it... except he almost certainly won't. The gargantuan document lays out a $1.15 trillion spending plan that has received solid (if not unanimous) support from both sides of the aisle and should prevent a government shutdown like the one we saw in 2013. But at what cost? [b]Update: As expected, President Obama has just signed the bill, enacting both the $1.1 trillion budget and CISA.[/b][/quote] [url]http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/house-senate-pass-budget-with-cisa/[/url] oof.

[QUOTE]except he almost certainly won't. The gargantuan document lays out a $1.15 trillion spending plan that has received solid (if not unanimous) support from both sides of the aisle and should prevent a government shutdown like the one we saw in 2013. [/QUOTE] Should be criminal to just add stuff like that. [QUOTE]2,000-page omnibus budget bill[/QUOTE] Should be a limit of some kind.

So what bad stuff does CISA introduce again? Google keeps bringing up something else but that's probably due to my search terms.

The way it's written it sounds like it's intended to make it easier for companies to voluntarily share user data with federal investigators, but I don't think that's all there is to it.

From what I can tell it means that ISPs can share all internet data with the government without the need for warrants, essentially they can monitor you as much as they like without reason [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] I'm sure there's more to it because it's a fucking huge bill though, someone who can understand it will break it down soon

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49346896]The way it's written it sounds like it's intended to make it easier for companies to voluntarily share user data with federal investigators, but I don't think that's all there is to it.[/QUOTE] Basically this, however, issues came up how the government will use it, Worst case this is a replacement for the NSA's Phone Metadata programs, the one that passed the senate actually had privacy protections but this version has none of it. Good News is that Tech companies (besides Facebook) have basically come against it because Government is stupid that it cannot keep information out of hacker's hands.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;49346915]From what I can tell it means that ISPs can share all internet data with the government without the need for warrants, essentially they can monitor you as much as they like without reason [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] I'm sure there's more to it because it's a fucking huge bill though, someone who can understand it will break it down soon[/QUOTE] It doesn't appear to require cooperation and doesn't seem to protect them from privacy laws but I'm waiting to hear it from someone who speaks legalese because I really doubt this is that benign.

[QUOTE=nomad1;49346870]So what bad stuff does CISA introduce again? Google keeps bringing up something else but that's probably due to my search terms.[/QUOTE] [quote]The bill would create a massive loophole in our existing privacy laws by allowing the government to ask companies for "voluntary" cooperation in sharing information, including the content of our communications, for cybersecurity purposes. But the definition they are using for the so-called "cybersecurity information" is so broad it could sweep up huge amounts of innocent Americans' personal data. ... CISA would circumvent the warrant requirement by allowing the government to approach companies directly to collect personal information, including telephonic or internet communications, based on the new broadly drawn definition of "cybersecurity information." . . . there is a provision in the bill that would excuse sharers from any liability if they act in "good faith" that the sharing was lawful. ... Collected information could then be used in criminal proceedings, creating a dangerous end-run around laws like the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, which contain warrant requirements.[/quote] [url]https://www.aclu.org/blog/beware-dangers-congress-latest-cybersecurity-bill?redirect=blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/beware-dangers-congress-latest-cybersecurity-bill[/url] And so on. Basically, CISPA from a couple years ago reborn. And who knows how secure that personal data will be, so it could very possibly wind up being hacked into by, say, China or Russia (or somebody else).

Doesn't CISA also completely absolve corporations of responsibility for stolen data, meaning they have no incentive to encrypt passwords or credit card information? I might be thinking of something else, but I think this was CISA.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;49346915]From what I can tell it means that ISPs can share all internet data with the government without the need for warrants, essentially they can monitor you as much as they like without reason [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] I'm sure there's more to it because it's a fucking huge bill though, someone who can understand it will break it down soon[/QUOTE] Actually no, First of all there needs to be a hack on a company. Company A can send "threat indicators" to the government, but these threat indicators may contain user data, The government thinks that these "threat indicators" will contain User Data, so they can use it for anything they want, in return the company is immuned to privacy lawsuits by the government. The Biggest Problem the government doesn't realize, is the fact that Tech Companies still don't think the Government is secure place (thanks to the OPM hack this year) for their user data... So they might not even send threat indicators\ OR scrub out user data like the DHS wanted to have earlier. This is not CISPA, which did let the ISP's moniter you like you said. "Privacy-killing" is an extreme term, but I think it's bad because the government cheaps out on cybersecurity.

Well then... I wish the US congress would gain some brains because even though I don't live in the US I can pretty much assume this effects everyone around the world...

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49346847]Should be criminal to just add stuff like that. Should be a limit of some kind.[/QUOTE] 2000 pages isn't unusual for the federal governments yearly budget

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49346998]Doesn't CISA also completely absolve corporations of responsibility for stolen data, meaning they have no incentive to encrypt passwords or credit card information? I might be thinking of something else, but I think this was CISA.[/QUOTE] Kinda, Liability protections from government suing, however Customer Suing is not protected, and because of that it DOES Give an Incentive for strong Cybersecurity.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;49346915]From what I can tell it means that ISPs can share all internet data with the government without the need for warrants, essentially they can monitor you as much as they like without reason [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] I'm sure there's more to it because it's a fucking huge bill though, someone who can understand it will break it down soon[/QUOTE] I'd hate to be the lowly paid government employee that has to monitor my internet searches.

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[QUOTE=zerglingv2;49347394]I'd hate to be the lowly paid government employee that has to monitor my internet searches.[/QUOTE] I'd guess it would be a system that logs searches and flags suspicious ones, so that [url=kaneford.com]summon the NSA[/url] website might actually get you put on a list

Thank god we at least passed a budget.

Where the heck are you supposed to get that much money?

[QUOTE=Soriddo;49347507]Where the heck are you supposed to get that much money?[/QUOTE] Borrowing it and never paying it back, or hiking taxes

[QUOTE=nomad1;49347032]Well then... I wish the US congress would gain some brains because even though I don't live in the US I can pretty much assume this effects everyone around the world...[/QUOTE] Good men and women need to accept the shitty legislation of evil politicians to get policy they want

Well shit. At least NASA actually gets more than what they asked for for the majority of their programs, manned and unmanned. That's pretty great... But I'm also pretty bummed. I feel just frustrated that this keeps happening, or that we have to keep trying to stop this from happening. Or that we try to grt NASA a bit of a budget boost, and that doesn't work, and then when it finally does its tied to omnibus legislation that skullfucks our data privacy rights

[QUOTE=paindoc;49347587]Well shit. At least NASA actually gets more than what they asked for for the majority of their programs, manned and unmanned. That's pretty great... But I'm also pretty bummed. I feel just frustrated that this keeps happening, or that we have to keep trying to stop this from happening. Or that we try to grt NASA a bit of a budget boost, and that doesn't work, and then when it finally does its tied to omnibus legislation that skullfucks our data privacy rights[/QUOTE] We can't win. They'll do whatever they want, regardless of how the populace feels about it. As evidenced by this bullshit

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;49350632]We can't win. They'll do whatever they want, regardless of how the populace feels about it. As evidenced by this bullshit[/QUOTE] So why did we win Net Neutrality... Okay guys this sucks, but seriously DO NOT get defeatist. We CANNOT win all the battles, But We the people have a lot of power. EDIT: And don't say because Money; COMCAST + TIME WARNER HAD MORE MONEY Than GOOGLE thrown at the battle.

i couldn't really care less about stuff like this. privacy=/=freedom. i've nothing to hide v0v

I don't have anything to hide, but I also feel that this is a gross violation of our personal freedoms, and that the method through which they passed it is underhanded, scummy, and a direct abuse of power. [editline]19th December 2015[/editline] We shouldn't have people that don't understand the internet making laws about the internet.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49350827]i couldn't really care less about stuff like this. privacy=/=freedom. i've nothing to hide v0v[/QUOTE] shut up canada

[QUOTE=Judas;49350900]shut up canada[/QUOTE] Which is why I said "stuff like this" and not "this".

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49350827]i couldn't really care less about stuff like this. privacy=/=freedom. i've nothing to hide v0v[/QUOTE] it has nothing to do with freedom, it has to do with privacy. I don't want obama looking at my hentai

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49350827]i couldn't really care less about stuff like this. privacy=/=freedom. i've nothing to hide v0v[/QUOTE] That's really the issue though, people say "I don't have anything to hide, go ahead pass your bill" and then they see that they can pass this shit, and they just keep passing things that get more and more intrusive.

I feel this was passed because the NSA Phone Metadata expiring, because this is basically the next Metadata.