WikiLeaks's Julian Assange's Swedish sex crimes file is leaked online
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[quote=Associated Press]
STOCKHOLM – Leaked Swedish police documents on the Julian Assange sex cases raise key questions for both sides about the allegations.
Was one of the WikiLeaks founder's Swedish lovers asleep during intercourse? Did she consent to unprotected sex? Those answers will determine whether rape was committed under Swedish law.
The 39-year-old Australian denies any wrongdoing in separate encounters with two Swedish women last summer, and is fighting Swedish attempts to have him extradited from Britain to face questioning in the cases. He will appear in court in London on Monday and Tuesday in that extradition case.
[B]In leaked police documents that emerged this week on the Internet, the Swedish woman accusing Assange of rape woke up as he was having sex with her, but let him continue even though she knew he wasn't wearing a condom.[/B]
She says she insisted that Assange wear a condom when they had sex in her apartment in the Swedish city of Enkoping on Aug. 16, and that he reluctantly agreed. The incident labeled as rape happened the next morning, when the woman claims she was woken up by Assange having unprotected sex with her.
[B]
"She immediately asked: `Are you wearing anything?' and he answered `You,'"[/B] according to a police summary of her deposition. "She said to him `You better don't have HIV' and he answered `Of course not.' She felt it was too late. He was already inside her and she let him continue."
Having sex with a sleeping person can be considered rape in Sweden, but the details in the leaked transcript could explain why different prosecutors have made different assessments of the incident.
One Stockholm prosecutor threw out the rape case altogether. A more senior prosecutor later reinstated it, and asked for Assange's extradition from Britain so she could question him in the case.
It's unclear who leaked the police documents, some of which have been publicly released before but with key portions blocked out. It's also not clear which side the full police documents would help more.
"It is a complicating factor that this person when she wakes up in one way or another gives her consent," said Nils-Petter Ekdahl, a judge and expert on Sweden's sex crimes legislation. "Does the consent also apply to what happened when one was sleeping? This question has not been tested by the justice system."
The documents included a cover letter signed by Assange's Swedish lawyer, Bjoern Hurtig.
"I can just say that I sent them to my client through his lawyer in London. But how it ended up on the Internet I don't know," Hurtig told The Associated Press. "It's incredibly unfortunate."
Assange is also accused of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion against another Swedish woman with whom he had sex in the same week. The leaked documents show she accuses him of deliberately damaging a condom during consensual sex, which he denies.
Assange met both women in connection with a seminar he gave on free speech in Stockholm after he and WikiLeaks made headlines around the world with the release of thousands of secret U.S. military documents on the war in Afghanistan.
His supporters say the allegations are trumped up and possibly politically motivated, charges that the women's lawyers have denied.
WikiLeaks has deeply angered the U.S. and other governments by publishing tens of thousands of secret military documents on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as a massive trove of U.S. diplomatic cables.[/quote]
Swedish rape classifications are bullshit, it's no wonder Sweden is considered as the "rape capital of the world".
If she let him continue, even if she didn't want him to, doesn't that classify as legal, consensual sex?
if she gave him consent then it basically nullifies the sex while asleep bit
gg sweden
[quote]"She immediately asked: `Are you wearing anything?' and he answered `You,'"[/quote]
Hahahaha
Off to the gulag with you!
[QUOTE=ThePutty;27853784]if she gave him consent then it basically nullifies the sex while asleep bit
gg sweden[/QUOTE]
The problem is that Sweden apparently has a strange law that lets people withdraw consent (Someone with a better understanding of this could explain better I guess) and then file rape charges.
[QUOTE=Jsm;27853910]The problem is that Sweden apparently has a strange law that lets people withdraw consent (Someone with a better understanding of this could explain better I guess) and then file rape charges.[/QUOTE]
That is dumb.
Kind of ironic that this was leaked
[QUOTE=Jsm;27853910]The problem is that Sweden apparently has a strange law that lets people withdraw consent (Someone with a better understanding of this could explain better I guess) and then file rape charges.[/QUOTE]
:psyduck:
Who thought that'd be a good idea? That's worse than teenagers in America "not being ready" and then turning around and calling it rape.
[QUOTE=Fycix;27853970]:psyduck:
Who thought that'd be a good idea? That's worse than teenagers in America "not being ready" and then turning around and calling it rape.[/QUOTE]
People could be too embarressed to say that they were raped at first. If you don't understand why someone would feel this way then you're most likely an aspie
Assange is a scumbag. Deal with it.
Didn't Assange (or his lawyer in the UK I cant remember) say that they would try and publish as many details about the case as possible?
Wikileaks leaking info on Wikileaks maybe.
Sweden has strange laws, more news at eleven!
Seriously though, this is just dumb.
So wait, they had sex which was totally fine, but then they had sex again later, and that was rape.
Wut.
:irony:
[QUOTE=uberbabetron;27854031]People could be too embarressed to say that they were raped at first. If you don't understand why someone would feel this way then you're most likely an aspie
Assange is a scumbag. Deal with it.[/QUOTE]
You should stop being a dumbass, just sayin'
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27853736]it's no wonder Sweden is considered as the "rape capital of the world".[/QUOTE]
I thought that was the democratic republic of congo
[QUOTE=Elizer;27853775]If she let him continue, even if she didn't want him to, doesn't that classify as legal, consensual sex?[/QUOTE]
But she consented after he started.
[QUOTE=uberbabetron;27854031]People could be too embarressed to say that they were raped at first. If you don't understand why someone would feel this way then you're most likely an aspie
Assange is a scumbag. Deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read my post? No, seriously, scroll a little bit up, plant your eyes right on the page and read, if you have the know-how.
Also, the deal with it defense never works.
[QUOTE=Fycix;27854503]Did you even read my post? No, seriously, scroll a little bit up, plant your eyes right on the page and read, if you have the know-how.
Also, the deal with it defense never works.[/QUOTE]
It does sometimes, but only if the opposing argument is such an unbelievably unstable tower of shit that the slightest inquisitive breeze causes it to topple.
In which case you've already won and don't need to do anything.
This is ridiculous... How the fuck is that rape.
This must be some pretty embarrassing stuff for Assange.
Well he got boned by a retarded law...that sucks.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;27853799]Hahahaha[/QUOTE]
Fuckshit, I was gonna post the same thing. :argh:
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;27856126]Fuckshit, I was gonna post the same thing. :argh:[/QUOTE]
It's easily the most entertaining line in the entire article.
Truly the smoothest criminal.
[QUOTE=Swilly;27856071]Well he got boned by a retarded law...that sucks.[/QUOTE]
lol boned
Assange sounds like a hippie. :v: Having sex freely, trying to change the world, etc.
[quote]"She immediately asked: `Are you wearing anything?' and he answered `You,'"[/quote]
thanks, now my screen has pepsi all over it from bursting out laughing
[QUOTE=Jsm;27853910]The problem is that Sweden apparently has a strange law that lets people withdraw consent (Someone with a better understanding of this could explain better I guess) and then file rape charges.[/QUOTE]
That goes up there with "it's not rape if you aren't bruised and/or bleeding" on the pedestal of stupid rape laws.
[QUOTE=Elizer;27853775]If she let him continue, even if she didn't want him to, doesn't that classify as legal, consensual sex?[/QUOTE]
The law defines rape as "sex without consent". Initiating sexual intercourse with a partner who is unconscious and therefore cannot have consented to it to begin with is rape. She gave him consent AFTER he started going at it, but, again, she did not consent to it until after he'd started. Hence, it can legitimately be considered rape.
The simple solution to avoid having this happen? Ask first next time.
[QUOTE=uberbabetron;27854031]People could be too embarressed to say that they were raped at first. If you don't understand why someone would feel this way then you're most likely an aspie
Assange is a scumbag. Deal with it.[/QUOTE]
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