• Senate panel OKs creationism teaching bill (Thankfully this only applies to Indianapolis)
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[quote]INDIANAPOLIS -An Indiana Senate panel has approved a bill that would allow creationism to be taught in Indiana's public schools. The Times of Munster reports the Republican-controlled Senate Education Committee voted 8-2 Wednesday to send the legislation to the full Senate despite pleas from scientists and religious leaders to keep religion out of science classrooms. The bill allows schools to authorize "the teaching of various theories concerning the origin of life" and specifically mentions "creation science" as one such theory. Creationism is the belief that the Earth and its creatures were created by a deity. Purdue University professor of chemistry John Staver told the panel evolution is the only theory of life's origins that relies on scientific investigations. He says creationism "is unquestionably a statement of a specific religion."[/quote] Source:[URL]http://www.wthr.com/story/16606066/senate-panel-oks-creationism-teaching-bill[/URL]
"the teaching of various theories concerning the origin of life" Meaning that it was God and Jesus and they made America land of the free amen God bless America
[release]Bor and Bestla had three sons: Odin was the first, Vili the second, and Vé the third. It is believed that Odin, in association with his brothers, is the ruler of heaven and earth. He is the greatest and most famous of all men. Odin, Vili, and Vé killed the giant Ymir. When Ymir fell, there issued from his wounds such a flood of blood, that all the frost ogres were drowned, except for the giant Bergelmir who escaped with his wife by climbing onto a lur. From them spring the families of frost ogres. The sons of Bor then carried Ymir to the middle of Ginnungagap and made the world from him. From his blood they made the sea and the lakes; from his flesh the earth; from his hair the trees; and from his bones the mountains. They made rocks and pebbles from his teeth and jaws and those bones that were broken.[/release] Teach it in science or I sue
No, it's not ok. Even if it is "only" in Indianapolis. [QUOTE=Zeke129;34429252][release]Bor and Bestla had three sons: Odin was the first, Vili the second, and Vé the third. It is believed that Odin, in association with his brothers, is the ruler of heaven and earth. He is the greatest and most famous of all men. Odin, Vili, and Vé killed the giant Ymir. When Ymir fell, there issued from his wounds such a flood of blood, that all the frost ogres were drowned, except for the giant Bergelmir who escaped with his wife by climbing onto a lur. From them spring the families of frost ogres. The sons of Bor then carried Ymir to the middle of Ginnungagap and made the world from him. From his blood they made the sea and the lakes; from his flesh the earth; from his hair the trees; and from his bones the mountains. They made rocks and pebbles from his teeth and jaws and those bones that were broken.[/release] Teach it in science or I sue[/QUOTE] Hail to the world tree, brother.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;34429350]No, it's not ok. Even if it is "only" in Indianapolis. [/QUOTE] I am just glad it doesn't apply to more than a single state.
Ahaha, this is so damn retarded, how are these people even breathing?
[QUOTE=znk666;34429381]I am just glad it doesn't apply to more than a single state.[/QUOTE] Let's just hope it won't spread from there.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;34429420]Let's just hope it won't spread from there.[/QUOTE] I think the supreme court still has a few decent reasonable people.
I'm not even angry anymore. I just pity the children who will be taught these fairytales as fact.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;34429501]I'm not even angry anymore. I just pity the children who will be taught these fairytales as fact.[/QUOTE] Oh you mean me.
Wasn't this ruled unconstitutional?
This should only pass if they are forced to teach evolution in church!
[QUOTE=Scar;34429803]This should only pass if they are forced to teach evolution in church![/QUOTE] But that's blasphemy!
Why not teach it in theology where it belongs? That way it won't be confused for scientific information.
Well that sucks for anyone in Indianopolis. I'm all for religious education, but a lab is most definitely not the place to teach it.
I really don't like the fact that churches have the "freedom of religion" to teach exactly what they want, when they want, how they want as a private institution but then can ram this down the throats of the school system.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34429252][release]Bor and Bestla had three sons: Odin was the first, Vili the second, and Vé the third. It is believed that Odin, in association with his brothers, is the ruler of heaven and earth. He is the greatest and most famous of all men. Odin, Vili, and Vé killed the giant Ymir. When Ymir fell, there issued from his wounds such a flood of blood, that all the frost ogres were drowned, except for the giant Bergelmir who escaped with his wife by climbing onto a lur. From them spring the families of frost ogres. The sons of Bor then carried Ymir to the middle of Ginnungagap and made the world from him. From his blood they made the sea and the lakes; from his flesh the earth; from his hair the trees; and from his bones the mountains. They made rocks and pebbles from his teeth and jaws and those bones that were broken.[/release] Teach it in science or I sue[/QUOTE] They made America out of Ymir's ass. [editline]28th January 2012[/editline] Also this sucks, you can and should teach kids about creationism, but you should do it in religion class, not science class.
This is retarded! I'm in Indianapolis and I have been going to private catholic schools my whole life and no one complains that they teach evolution. Everyone knows that creationism is stupid, including religion teachers and such. Why the flying FUCK should public schools be allowed to teach it as a valid explanation of creation?
Wow. Indianapolis borders my state. [b]It's spreading northward.[/b]
I don't mind learning about mythology but I wouldn't want to be put into the middle of a damn church service while I'm at school...
[QUOTE=KingPariah;34430505]Wow. Indianapolis borders my state. [b]It's spreading northward.[/b][/QUOTE] Um Indianapolis is in the middle of the state, also disregard my last post as I don't live in Indianapolis, but I do live in Indiana.
[QUOTE=KingPariah;34430505]Wow. Indianapolis borders my state. [b]It's spreading northward.[/b][/QUOTE] Nah, Indiana's always been very goofy like this. It's not "spreading" so much as "festering".
And it's not even in Kansas.... Man this country is really starting to go backwards. There should be no problem teaching religious studies for students that want them, but it really has to be kept out of a science class
The day when humanity lost their right to say that they were more intelligent than lichen
I wonder how the introduction lesson would go... Ok class, so first we are going to learn about evolution, which is one of the theories for how we got here. Some people believe in evolution because of obvious similarities in DNA between species, phenotypes between species, traceable fossil records supported by carbon dating and micro evolution observed in the real world. Now we are going to learn about creationism, which is another theory. Some people believe in creationism because its how they were brought up, and is how the bible explains it. Creationism states that DNA and fossil records are hoaxes put there by god, and that scientists who use carbon dating are trying to con us. Micro evolution that happens over decades or centuries is magically bounded somehow, so that over millions of years it can't continue and radically change one species into another. Now, of course all of the above statements refuting the evidence behind evolution were not in the bible. However, if you come across evidence that doesn't fit your model, the best thing to do is ignore it. ...Later; Why are all of these kids failing science, maths and technology related subjects? It's almost like we taught them not to use the scientific method!
In all honesty, these people should be fired and jailed. They're actively harming children.
[QUOTE=znk666;34430153]But that's blasphemy![/QUOTE]Exactly! :v:
Not that big of a deal really. They already teach you about Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity/Catholicism in 7th grade Social Studies. You also learn about Communism, Socialism, and Fascism as a sophomore. All this does is broaden people's horizons, it's not like Indiana kids are all going turn into creationists just because they learn about it alongside every other theory
well, so begins the 'lawful' downfall of separation of church and state.
If there are rivaling theories on a subject, then informing the students about them both should definitely be encouraged. So as soon as the Creationists manage to formulate a testable hypothesis and it has withstood the scrutiny of peer review for more than a hundred years, like the theory of evolution has, it most definitely should be taught in kindergarten, schools and universities. Until that day however, they should collectively liberate their heads from their asses and stop being offended whenever they fail to understand a scientific reality.
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