• I would like to ask all of you a question.
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Ive seen many people do sh*t like weed, drink and smoke. Now I want to know why you all do so. Im not asking for "WTF BRO IT FEELS GUD" or "WHAT EVAH I DO WHAT I WANT". I want an honest answer, because so far Ive never seen anybody that can give me a decent answer. Im not totallly ruling out the 2 ragish responses, but please try to have decent responses. I know too many people with problems. They say you cant get addicted to weed. Thats a lie. Its all mental, and I have a friend who literally couldn't go a day without lighting up. People act like its harmless, and Ive seen my share of high-high schoolers. They just dont think right.
Because I like to do it and its fun and a good way of making new friends. Those are literally the only reasons I do it and so far it has not affected me negatively in anyway, I am in my second year of college.
I use weed as a escape mechanism from a lot of my problems, it really calms me down. I like my freedom, and its the only thing in my life that I can have control over. I've opened up and met a lot of people through weed. I like being high and its fun.
I use it as a stress reliever, friendship bonder, and medically for anxiety. These are all true for weed, but that's all I do anyway.
"Do [B]shit[/B] like weed, drink and smoke" Are you just shit as a synonym for 'stuff' or are you just insulting something with a lack of knowledge of it? Weed is fun, alcohol is fun, smoking is fun for some (I do it socially), I don't see the huge problem. People say you're sad if you can't have fun without drugs but you can, it's just making it a whole lot more fun. Weed is a pretty safe drug, alcohol is fine in moderation, smoking isn't too healthy but if people choose to smoke they can. Personally I like the nicotine rush but I wouldn't take it up as a habit. If you have no self control, you shouldn't be touching drugs in the first place, weed is not hard to put down at all so you must be talking to some pretty weak minded people. Either that or they have no reason to quit so let them be. It's a stress reliever, it has many medicinal uses, it does not make you go crazy, it's like settling down from a hard day and playing a few games, would you say you're mentally addicted to playing games if you get home and do it every night? What personal experience do you have with drugs and how old are you?
I'm 15 years old and I've tried nearly every drug on the street. I'll say it straight up, I've done meth, crack, heroin and whatever else drug you think fucks up your life oh-so bad. [B]incoming huge ass fuck rant[/B] Something I've learned from my experiences of doing drugs since I've been 12 is that people are misinformed as hell. You got your "normies", who fear doing anything related to recreational drugs, who are also led to believe that drugs are much worse than your worthless word-twisting government anti-drug sites. They know absolutely nothing about drugs and are hell-bent on believing shit like "Heroin gets you hooked the first time man, you're fucked for life once you do it, get rehab" or "Meth is fucked, you're snorting car battery bro" and one that I really love to hear, "You get addicted to coke because the first time is the greatest, then every time you do it, you try to get that high again but it never happens" Fun bit of info, heroin is an opiate. A painkiller. It's pretty damn similar to Oxycodone or Morphine. You break your arm, go to the hospital and they shoot you up with a dose of morphine, and send you out with a script of Oxycontin pills. On the street you can get heroin which is essentially the same shit but stronger. The danger is usually from dealing with scumbag dealers and shooting up whatever the hell the heroin is cut with, and then of course, addiction. You can be given pure heroin for years, detox, and be quite physically healthy once the withdrawal symptoms are gone. Meth is an amphetamine. They give amphetamines to both little kids and adults to help them pay attention. Like opiates, there are stronger and weaker versions of it, but I guess with something like meth it's hard to get that speedy euphoria going with ritalin pills. And then you got your average misinformed drug user, whether they just smoke pot occasionally or sniff coke all the time, a large chunk of their knowledge on drug safety comes from hearsay. I'm talking about harder drugs here, because the consequences of pot are a joke compared to a very popular and LEGAL recreational drug, alcohol. Most people who smoke weed know what they're doing, but I know cokeheads who just throw money at a dealer, get their baggie and sniff shit that barely even gets them high. Often the next thing you hear is "Damn bro, this shit must not be colombian" (A statement which makes no sense) And then, you got someone who researches what they're doing thanks to the great knowledge you can find on harm-prevention resources. There are very little amounts of these people. I can't divide every person in the these groups, but mostly everyone can fit in to one of the three. If it wasn't for asking questions on sites like bluelight, I believe I would be DEAD right now, or in a much worse place, missing all my money and beat-up from shoving random chems in to my body. Now, back to my point, you can do nearly any drug out there in moderation and be completely fine. The main problem is addiction - For example, I've heard lots of stories where people do heroin once a week, and they just love it so much that they start doing it twice a week. Then three times, four times .. Next thing you know they're shooting up twice a day. With a drug like heroin, doing it once is just going to leave you with something in the back of your head saying "Gee, that was fun". Then you have to fight with your self-control once you get a craving that urges you to go out and do it again. This is mental addiction. Think it's so bad? Look at an obese person. They're addicted to food. Whether they give a shit about being fat or not, they failed to resist the cravings, and they got the "high" of your brain being happy, eating delicious food. Do you play video games? If you're in high school and on facepunch, I'd assume you enjoy video games. Have you ever been at a point where you couldn't play whatever game you really wanted to? I remember being angry as fuck when my mom took away my nintendo games when I was little, and I'm still pissed when my brother puts a password on my account and I can't play on my PC. Your unhappy and won't be happy until you get whatever you want. And in time, you know these will pass, but your willpower can fail and you give in to temptation. Addictions have negative effects.. Get a heavy addiction to food, your fat and your body hates you by giving you heart attacks. Get a heavy addiction to video games, you don't want to get a job, you wanna stay in your mom's basement and play WoW all day. Get a heavy addiction to drugs, well, we all know the problems of that. Keep food in moderation, stay healthy and enjoy some junk food now and then. Keep gaming in moderation, play on your free time and have fun. Keep recreational drug use in moderation .. What's the problem? If you develop a heavy heroin habit, you're going to get opiate withdrawal - Physical addiction. Heroin withdrawal is usually your body in a massive "Fuck you" mode - You have the worst flu symptoms of your life, your entire body is aching in pain, you can't sleep, you always feel uncomfortable. It's not uncommon that people kill themselves instead of going through withdrawal. You already feel like you're going to die. But that's just heroin, most drugs you don't have to worry about physical withdrawal. The truth is, long-term side effects of recreational drug use mostly don't happen unless you're binging on the stuff for really long time. Like I said with heroin ... You can do pure cocaine regularly for years, detox/rehab if needed (rhetorically speaking, you don't give in to the cravings to do it again) and be pretty damn fine. But today, street coke is cut with so much shit that the fillers you get will do WAY more damage to your body than actual cocaine. Same goes with drugs that aren't prepared/synthesized well like street methamphetamine. Something I noticed, look back to the older years - Around the 70's - Where rockstars were doing shittons of real coke - Back when coke wasn't often cut with anything. Steven Tyler from Aerosmith had legendary use of blow, and he's had more health issues from running around on stage all the time in boots. Today, you can find coke addicts getting health problems rather quickly from street coke. So please, be a little bit open-minded and don't think someone is instantly incredibly retarded for trying recreational drugs. (i believe) You only live once, and life is short as hell. Make the most of it. I'm not saying go out and spend all your money on a drug binge, but taking some adventurous leaps will probably lighten up your boring life of "Bust your ass off doing 16 years old school, get a job, start a family, drink your coffee, go to work, sleep, rinse and repeat." Lemme throw in one more bit: I can understand giving shit to someone for hard drug use, but I hope you can grasp enjoying alcohol, right? Maybe not at your age, where you think most kids do it to look cool or some shit. Alcohol is one of the worst long-term drugs out there. Alcoholism will do a lot of physical damage to you. By long-term, I mean it takes YEARS of heavy alcohol use to cause damage that is really bad. This goes for a lot of recreational drugs. You're not doing [B]jack shit[/B] to your body if you go to your cool-kid high school party and have a beer. Hell, it's considered a health benefit to have a glass of red wine or beer every now and then. I guess not at the age of 15, but around 20-25 when your brain stops developing. Unless you're going to be the next nobel prize winning scientist, I don't think drinking at that age every now and then at a party isn't going to matter. A "normie" is going to over-exaggerate the bad effects of drugs by a billion times, which makes you look like a retard because you don't even know a thing about the drug. And then, you have pot. Cannabis is one of the most safest recreational drugs out there - I would rather have kids toking up than getting wasted at a party. It's perfectly fucking fine in moderation, hell, it's got numerous health benefits. Sure, you can get addicted to it, but I like I said, you can get addicted to food or video games, or anything that makes you less-bored, really. Being a pot head is often as bad as being a "food addict"/fatass or the kids who skip school to play video games all day, at least in my opinion. So many people smoke weed, you have no freaking clue. I think the percentage was 42% of 2010 high school graduates in the US have tried weed. That's a big fucking number, more than 2 in 5 kids that graduate have given weed a try. (Although I think most didn't inhale the first time, never did it again and say they tried it lol). The government spends so much money on a failed drug war, I can understand controlling other substances, but if you think weed should remain illegal you're silly. I believe it can be taxed, controlled and help the gov't make money off of it, and solve a ton of BS issues that having it illegalized has made. And when I try to give any of this information to a "normie", they're hell-bent on believing what they read on those fucking useless anti-drug sites, filled with crap info like horridly over-exaggerated side effects and some word-twisting to brainwash the ignorant teen. Do your fucking research, marijuana is fine and should not remain illegal. You don't know a thing about it until you try it, which I highly recommend you do and quit being a brainwashed puppet of your government. It's an amazing experience that can't be described with words. [quote]tl;dr - Weed is one of the most safest drugs out there, and with one of the worst ones, Alcohol, you're not doing shit to your body unless you binge with heavy use for years. Recreational drug use isn't as bad as you think it is, not with high school smoking and drinking at least.[/quote] Sorry, I had two coffees this morning, first time I had caffeine in a long ass time and I really wanted to spill out everything that has been piling up in my head. Go ahead and rate me dumb for experimenting with harder drugs at such a young age, but I'm having a blast living life on the edge. I don't exactly regret any of my past fuckups. They provided me with so much understanding and empathy, I know how fucking shitty it is growing up in an abusive environment. I know the tempting world of drugs - Fights, cops, danger, drama, and getting high. I know the hell of addiction. Harder drugs can turn in to some really serious shit, but it's an addiction itself, and I love it - No day is the same as before. It's exciting, knowing I'm so young and there's so much more to experience. Good and bad times that I'll trek through. I wouldn't trade anything in the world for this. So, you can have fun with your parents that don't allow swearing in your house, enjoying your daily routine of school/work/whatever. I'm not saying go and do whatever the fuck you will, but there's a much more exciting world you're missing out on.
I thought my post was a bit long winded haha, reading now polarbear You pretty much hit the nail on the head, I'd like to see a rebuttal to that
Its relaxing, makes you more sociable. For someone whos stressed and antisocial its pretty good. Makes food taste amazing which is a nice perk too. On occasion ive smoked alone, totally none socially just to lie in bed, writhing in ecstacy to music and enjoying the lights (CEV) The simple answer though is that it feels good. Why do people watch tv, play games, or maybe even sports! because theyre fun. Its recreation in its most beautiful form
because it's fun? Why else would you do it lol
spoiler alert there's no such thing as a gateway drug
I'll admit I get cranky and irritable without pot sometimes, but it's not gonna kill me if I don't have it. I think of it as less of an addiction and more of a habit. If you do it consistently for a long period of time, it's hard to just stop. Just like any other habit. but it's not like people should be shaking and feeling sick and shit. Hell, sobriety is a high of it's own after smoking for a long time.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;35136083]words.[/QUOTE] Just gotta be safe man, that's all there is to it
quitting weed is easy, i smoked it for three years almost everyday missing a few days here and there and then one day i had a bad experience with a different drug and just stopped almost all my drug use, the only thing i do now is smoke cigs and drink caffeine which is probably worse.
[QUOTE=Anthrax713;35137633]quitting weed is easy, i smoked it for three years almost everyday missing a few days here and there and then one day i had a bad experience with a different drug and just stopped almost all my drug use, the only thing i do now is smoke cigs and drink caffeine which is probably worse.[/QUOTE] I just quit today, smoked last night, haven't smoked yet today and I feel fine as far as that goes. Weed addiction is completely overrated
[QUOTE=Mr_WOBBLeS;35133532]People act like its harmless, and Ive seen my share of high-high schoolers. They just dont think right.[/QUOTE] Completely agree with this. People don't seem to realize, marijuana may be borderline harmless to an ADULT, but it is harmful to a developing brain. I know a lot of scatterbrains who bitch and moan about how weed is illegal and how it has no bad effects
[QUOTE=Lukeo;35136107]I thought my post was a bit long winded haha, reading now polarbear You pretty much hit the nail on the head, I'd like to see a rebuttal to that[/QUOTE] Yeah. Well, Im not saying that its bad, I wanted to hear a response. At my school probably 1/4-1/3 skip regularly to smoke. Now thats what messes your defense of pot up a bit, because if you can't even pay attention to easy ass high school "Algebra B" and "English 8 Retake", then how the hell are you supposed to get a job. But on another gear, I wouldn't flood my problems with drugs. Its a cool story "polarbear" but if you can't solve a problem without doin stuff, you gotta learn at least sortof how. My dad is an alcoholic, and that sucks. My friends who started weed started on cigs too and "spoiler" nicotine is one of the most dangerous poisons (literal not death toll) in the world beyond the arsenic and mercury based ones.
Your highschool acquaintances seem like dumb asses, they'd skip school to smoke weed or not. You're assuming all drug users are failures and will get nowhere in life, you don't flood your problems with drugs as they only get worse, that's called an irresponsible drug user. Relieving stress isn't exactly flooding your problems with drugs. People know smoking tobacco has a health risk, we aren't stupid, people enjoy it. I ask again, how old are you and are you very social?
Yeah, no shit it's all mental. Weed is mentally addicting just like sex is. And the only time sex has ever ruined a persons life is if they are completely maniacal about it, and they can't stop thinking about sex. Not all drug users are like that. And just because somebody is fucking retarded doesn't mean it was drugs that did it too them, maybe it just brought it out of them because they were too stupid to be responsible with their usage. I do drugs, particularly marijuana because it helps get rid of my headaches, helps promote creative thinking, allows me to have an out-of-body experience that can't be had any other way with friends. Drugs only destroy you if you let them. [editline]14th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr_WOBBLeS;35138074] because if you can't even pay attention to easy ass high school "Algebra B" and "English 8 Retake", then how the hell are you supposed to get a job.[/QUOTE] Pot doesn't do that to everyone. Stop basing your assumptions on stereotypes if you want to have a legitimate argument.
If you can't stop smoking weed for a day you're a pussy.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;35136161]spoiler alert there's no such thing as a gateway drug[/QUOTE] Weed is a gateway drug, a gateway to open your mind and to find the facts and not the lies they tell you about drugs. Then its your decision to do these drugs because they are not as harmful as people said they were.
But You can find that out without doing weed.
[QUOTE=Mr_WOBBLeS;35138074]Yeah. Well, Im not saying that its bad, I wanted to hear a response. At my school probably 1/4-1/3 skip regularly to smoke. Now thats what messes your defense of pot up a bit, because if you can't even pay attention to easy ass high school "Algebra B" and "English 8 Retake", then how the hell are you supposed to get a job. But on another gear, I wouldn't flood my problems with drugs. Its a cool story "polarbear" but if you can't solve a problem without doin stuff, you gotta learn at least sortof how. My dad is an alcoholic, and that sucks. My friends who started weed started on cigs too and "spoiler" nicotine is one of the most dangerous poisons (literal not death toll) in the world beyond the arsenic and mercury based ones.[/QUOTE] average person who thinks weed is the devil and knows jack shit about it Oh boy, he started weed and then he started cigs. No such thing as a gateway drug, literally - It's referred to as the "gateway drug [I]theory[/I]". How often does someone start smoking meth before smoking weed? Cigarettes are a bad habit I admit, but you know perfectly well what you're getting in to. You're not going to get lung cancer and 20 years off life unless you're a pack-a-day smoker for several years straight - And if smoking a pack is required, so be it. I'd rather have a short life of fun and not giving a shit.
It is relaxing, and it gives everything a better feeling in every sense. It makes music sound better, it makes games more immersive, and makes sex or masturbation feel much better. It makes you want to just relax and enjoy time with your mates, or yourself. You don't get any nasty after effects from it, no hangovers, you don't go out causing fights or otherwise making an ass of yourself. It's all around enjoyable. Besides, most people here have issues that it helps suppress. OP, have you ever smoked marijuana, what is your take or experience with it? In reply to some of the things said here, I wouldn't mix drugs with school or work. I never showed up to school high or drunk before, nor will I ever (aside from when I woke up still drunk in the morning before work).
Oh, and "smoking weed makes you stupid lalala" - Shut up. High school is mostly just teaching you a lesson that you can teach yourself, given a wonderful resource like the internet, and then doing the same practice over and over. You get good marks for not being lazy. I know a guy who gets 90's in all of his courses even though he skips school to smoke weed all the damn time, often weeks at a time, he makes friends with the teachers and smart kids to get them to tell him everything that happens in class, to find out when tests are etc. Does all the shit required and gets good rep with the teacher, aces all his tests and barely even comes to class. Ends up with a fuckin' 90. That's the definition of winning, I wish we were taught shit like that in school.
There are a lot of morons that ruin it for everyone, just like everything else. You aren't going to notice the responsible people who smoke, because they won't be high in your class or skipping the class to get high. There are idiots in this world and they'll continue to be idiots rather they smoke weed or not.
I smoke weed simply because the option to do so is available, and I enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Mr_WOBBLeS;35138074]Yeah. Well, Im not saying that its bad, I wanted to hear a response. At my school probably 1/4-1/3 skip regularly to smoke. Now thats what messes your defense of pot up a bit, because if you can't even pay attention to easy ass high school "Algebra B" and "English 8 Retake", then how the hell are you supposed to get a job. But on another gear, I wouldn't flood my problems with drugs. Its a cool story "polarbear" but if you can't solve a problem without doin stuff, you gotta learn at least sortof how. My dad is an alcoholic, and that sucks. My friends who started weed started on cigs too and "spoiler" nicotine is one of the most dangerous poisons (literal not death toll) in the world beyond the arsenic and mercury based ones.[/QUOTE] Just because you have wastemen friends and your dad has problems doesn't mean other people can't have fun and amazing experiences with drugs and live perfectly fine lives. Deal with it.
some people might take it for therapeutic reasons, such as to explore the mind or what reality really is, however on the other side of the scale there are people who use it for reasons that probably aren't as positive such as an escape from reality rather than a greater insight into it, then you have the people who take it purely because it's pleasurable, along with many other reasons i'm sure. you can't really group drug users of any kind into a box, just like you can't group any selection of people into a box, because everybody is extremely unique. everybody has different intentions, different beliefs, different ideas, different perspectives, human behaviour is complicated and as i said before giving a single intention to one group is ridiculous. it's on a person by person basis basically. you're not going to change your mind on your view of drug users in my opinion. your small personal experiences, eg one person you know smoked weed then smoked cigs. doesn't constitute drug users as a whole and he might've even smoked if he hadn't smoked weed. also getting a job is not really as based on qualifications as much as it may seem, you can get into decent positions in a work place just by working your way up or by many other routes. "People act like its harmless, and Ive seen my share of high-high schoolers. They just dont think right." who decides who thinks right and who thinks wrong? what constitutes correct thinking? why does thinking have to be grouped into right and wrong? "i think you think wrong because you miss the apostrophe in "I've"" then i must think wrong because i think something that somebody else thinks is wrong and so on. sorry if this comes across as an attack, it's not, i'm just trying to prove a point.
[QUOTE=AbysalRush;35137959]Completely agree with this. People don't seem to realize, marijuana may be borderline harmless to an ADULT, but it is harmful to a developing brain. I know a lot of scatterbrains who bitch and moan about how weed is illegal and how it has no bad effects[/QUOTE] Still shouldn't be illegal though.
I do it because its fun.
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