Pentagon OKs lifting ban on letting women serve on subs. - Polidicks

[quote]U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates sent a letter to lawmakers notifying them of the decision by the Navy, which could see the first women on nuclear submarines next year. "This is fundamentally a Navy initiative, which they recently briefed to the secretary of defense. (Gates) supports it and he notified Congress of the Navy's plans," Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said. Women account for about 15 percent of the more than 336,000 members of the U.S. Navy and can serve on its surface ships. But critics have argued that submarines are different, pointing to cramped quarters where some crews share beds in shifts -- a practice known as "hot bunking." A likely scenario would see female officers becoming the first to join crews on the Navy's fleet of 71 submarines, since officers have separate accommodations, a U.S. defense official said. Congress has 30 days to provide its official comment on the Navy's decision. Nancy Duff Campbell, an advocate for expanding the role of women in the U.S. armed forces, applauded the decision and said she did not expect any opposition from lawmakers. "This is something that has a lot of support (within the military) and the Navy has a serious plan" to carefully integrate submarine personnel, she said. Allowing women on submarines would be another step forward in expanding the role of women in the U.S. military. In 2008, a woman was promoted to the rank of four-star general for the first time. Testifying in the Senate on Tuesday, Army General George Casey said he thought it was time to re-examine the policy that places restrictions on women in combat roles. "We don't have an active effort going on, but I think it's time," Casey said. Women are still barred from traditional frontline combat roles in the U.S. armed forces. But female soldiers often run the same risks as men in Iraq and Afghanistan, where bombings and other insurgent attacks can happen almost anywhere.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M6LW20100224[/url] "Hey, think I should ask Petty Officer Mackie out on a date?" "Dude, you're like 20,000 leagues under her"

That is pretty big actually. You would be surprised how many women get pregnant while on duty on normal ships..I mean it isn't overwhelming but still, you would figure people would be smart.

The Navy - No longer gay

[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;20391301]Source: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M6LW20100224[/url] "Hey, think I should ask Petty Officer Mackie out on a date?" "Dude, you're like 20,000 leagues under her"[/QUOTE] Yea, she's way out of your league.

Who put this in place to begin with?

[QUOTE=Nitrowing;20391449]Yea, she's way out of your league.[/QUOTE] It's ok, there are plenty of other fish in the sea

[QUOTE=Micr0;20391438]The Navy - No longer gay[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw[/media]

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You can't let women on subs; they're full of semen!

[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;20391301]"Hey, think I should ask Petty Officer Mackie out on a date?" "Dude, you're like 20,000 leagues under her"[/QUOTE]Oh you cheeky motherfucker. Have a funny for making me laugh.

This would be weird if the women were kind of loose. Like they could get raped or something like that, and when they are 4,000 miles from any Navy base that kind of complicates things.

Hmm, I'm not sure what to say about this....

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;20391581]You can't let women on subs; they're full of semen![/QUOTE] Let's just get all the "seamen" jokes out of our systems now: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slWesdezt58[/media]

I thought "well who has been making the sandwiches all this time!?!?" Then I saw that it said "ON subs".

[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;20391301]Source: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M6LW20100224[/url] "Hey, think I should ask Petty Officer Mackie out on a date?" "Dude, you're like 20,000 leagues under her"[/QUOTE] Fun fact: 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is not how far underwater they were but how far [B]they traveled[/B] while underwater..

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20391952]Fun fact: 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is not how far underwater they were but how far [B]they traveled[/B] while underwater..[/QUOTE] I know, I know. Just taking a slight literal interpretation of the book, adding a bit of dating humor and coming up with a joke. :buddy:

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20391952]Fun fact: 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is not how far underwater they were but how far [B]they traveled[/B] while underwater..[/QUOTE] Another fun fact: 20,000 leagues under the sea would be through the Earth and a quarter of the way too the moon.

[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;20392059]I know, I know. Just taking a slight literal interpretation of the book, adding a bit of dating humor and coming up with a joke. :buddy:[/QUOTE] Ah, OK. Note to self: pull stick out of ass.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20392162]Ah, OK. Note to self: pull stick out of ass.[/QUOTE] You mean the one that's currently being used as a makeshift Stripper's Pole in the first submarine to have a woman on it?

[IMG]http://theinnerdoor.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/18829909.jpg[/IMG] I'm shtill sha captain of zish ship. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsL2WVhFCc[/media]

FUCKING FINALLY! :neckbeard: This kind of made my day.

At first I read that as "Pentagon OKs lifting ban on letting women serve subs". I was thinking that only women should be making you a sandwich.

Will they be confined to the kitchen area only?

Anyone else always imagine men on submarines being 19th century gentlemen? Like, top hats, monocles and such. I don't know why, I just do. [img]http://imgkk.com/i/aKQ_N-.jpg[/img] ^ My vision of a submarine. ^ Now I'll imagine ladies in big poofy dresses too. And they'll have parasols too despite the lack of sunlight.

Sorry, but I'll have to get them to reinstate the ban. It just doesn't work with the line [I]This is my submarine. It's long and hard and full of seamen.[/I] What, seawomen? Sailors?

I dunno how I feel about this. The navy actually had relatively decent reasoning for maintaining single sex crews. Being trapped on a tiny vessel under the ocean for extended periods of time causes tension and stress. This is exacerbated when placed in an environment with the opposite sex. I'm totally fine with letting women serve on subs, but I'd say stick with all male or all female crews as much as possible. Both sexes are equally capable of crewing the vessel, but on the same vessel it will just cause drama. The Air Force aims for single sex flight crews for larger aircraft for similar reasons.

The Navy's gonna see some changes now, no doubt about that. It's also a victory for military women, too. [QUOTE=GamerKiwi;20394109]Anyone else always imagine men on submarines being 19th century gentlemen? Like, top hats, monocles and such. I don't know why, I just do. [IMG]http://imgkk.com/i/aKQ_N-.jpg[/IMG] ^ My vision of a submarine. ^[/QUOTE] I imagine Russian guys and skinny men in sailor suits. Not to mention a balding muscly badass with a moustache and a lit cigar.

[QUOTE=MR-X;20391408]That is pretty big actually. You would be surprised how many women get pregnant while on duty on normal ships..I mean it isn't overwhelming but still, you would figure people would be smart.[/QUOTE] They've been doing this on Australian subs for 20 years and it's worked fine

This is one thing I really don't think is a big deal. Normally, I'd be all for co-ed shit, but for the sake of effectiveness you more or less have to eliminate the chance of a crew member becoming pregnant. Nothing to do with womens nature, but men and women in cramped spaces eventually fuck.

[img]http://fbs.usc.edu/depts/purchasing/files/2008/8/6/6.jpg[/img] This is what I thought this thread was about at first.