[quote=VICE NEWS]They Thought There Were Terrorists Hiding in the Trees[/quote]
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[I]Khamis' destroyed land.[/I]
The youth of Gaza may spend their lives trying to surmount the shitty hand they've been dealt, but the old seem a little too tired to keep up the struggle. Khamis Sukkar is a Palestinian and the vice president of the Palestine Liberation Organization, a political and paramilitary group acting as the official representative of the Palestinian people. He grew up in Gaza until he went to the UK to study. He now lives between London, Jordan, and Gaza—where most of his family are still situated.
A few years ago, the Israeli Army wandered over and tore down the 400 olive trees that covered his 46,000 square feet of land. Each tree would produce a little over 5 gallons of olive oil, so you can imagine the devastation for Khamis and his family. Now, after re-planting them, he has to wait another decade for production to begin again.
I spoke to him about his burned trees and, y'know, a few of those other problems Palestinians might have with Israelis.
[B]VICE: Hey Khamis. So what did you do after your olive trees got destroyed?[/B]
Khamis Sukkar: I never complained about the land, actually, because I know the Israelis will just make problems. I spoke to an Israeli solicitor in London who told me I should forget about it. He said there was no way I could win the case and the Israelis would bother me all the time.
[B]Do you know why they destroyed them in the first place? [/B]
They did it because the land is on the border. They want to clear the border of any kind of trees, in case what they call "terrorists" sneak through. The Israelis will always give you good reasons. It is their security, they are threatened constantly by "terrorists."
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[B]Did they warn you beforehand?[/B]
No, they never tell anyone. They come at midnight with bulldozers and tanks and a big army force. They just bulldoze everything and no one can stop them. This is how Rachel Corrie, the American girl, was killed; she was bulldozed. She tried to defend a Palestinian house from being destroyed—a poor family’s house—so she stood in front of it and they just ran her over.
[B]Jesus. Do you know anyone else whose olive trees have been destroyed? Has anyone tried taking legal action?[/B]
I'd say 95 percent of the olive tree farmers have been affected. Some fought it, but they never won anything. Sometimes the Red Cross give these people new plants, but they'll take another ten years to produce anything useful. The first three years, you don’t expect any kind of production. I replanted the land but I know they will come again and destroy it.
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[B]How will they justify it?[/B]
The Israelis don’t need to justify anything. They put a hole in one side of the little house I built, the other side is fucked. Thank god nobody was in there. In some cases, if they do find someone they will shoot them, just shoot to kill. In our case, they worked on the land from about midnight to 7 AM and when I went back, about a week later, they’d finished everything. There was nothing green after that.
[B]How has your family been affected by the general situation?[/B]
Why don’t we go back to 1948 when they kicked the Palestinians out of their land? My grandfather was a ship owner. He started his shipping agency in 1900 and became one of the ten richest people in Palestine. When the Israelis started emigrating to Palestine after the First World War, the Palestinians welcomed them as refugees. They sympathized with their case. They were treated in that way. You know, Palestinian people are very soft-hearted. Some of these Jewish people were fostered by Palestinian families. But then they just kicked the Palestinians out. That's what happened to my grandfather; he was kicked out of his house with only the clothes he was wearing. He had a little boat that he owned for fishing and he had to row with his family from Yafo, which is now called Jaffa. He had to row about 60 miles from Yafo to Gaza, that’s why and how we ended up in Gaza.
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[I]Khamis replanting his olive trees.[/I]
[B]What happened after the Israelis moved in?[/B]
We had no choice but to flee our houses, because a few days before that the Israelis had attacked a village called Deir Yassin. There were very few survivors who rowed from Palestine to Gaza—it’s about 60 miles of rowing. Some people died of hunger, some died of thirst, some drowned. The lucky ones reached Gaza, and Gaza was far enough to settle. At that time the United Nations gave them food, wheat, tents, and they had to restart their lives again. We went back after the Gaza occupation to see our sister's house in 1967. There were Jewish people living in it and they let us in, which was very kind.
[B]How were you treated as a Palestinian when you were in Britain?[/B]
I never had any problem mixing. I had no problem getting a visa, and I had enough money. But, I would say that after 9/11 it was different for all foreign people. That is the West’s propaganda.
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[I]This is what the land looked like before.[/I]
[B]In what way?[/B]
Well, the media is in the hands of the Jewish. The biggest one is Rupert Murdoch. It used to be Robert Maxwell. The British people will believe what is in the papers, and what is in the news. It’s never true, they never tell the truth. When the Israelis kill hundreds of Palestinians there is not much mention in the daily British newspapers. But when a Palestinian kills one or two members of an Israeli family, which I am against for a start, it would be all over the news: "Palestinian Terrorist Attacks Family"—it’s a big deal.
[B]Aside from global Jewish conspiracy theories, what was your role in organizing demonstrations in London, as the vice president of the PLO?[/B]
I never wanted to officially be a vice president, I just used to work harder than all these people and was a very active member of the Palestinian community in the UK. But there's not much you can do about it. That’s life in Palestine.
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Israel being a massive cunt to Palestine and its citizens, how surprising.
Source needs to be posted.
my bad :v:
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;36711739]Israel being a massive cunt to Palestine and its citizens, how surprising.[/QUOTE]
And cultivating anti-semitism and jewish conspiracy theories among the people it marginalizes, apparently:
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Well, the media is in the hands of the Jewish. [/quote]
Seriously, what's with the 'jews own the media' crap? There's no doubt a significant pro-israeli, zionist bias but why do people assume this means jews own shit?
[QUOTE=Conscript;36711811]And cultivating anti-semitism and jewish conspiracy theories among the people it marginalizes, apparently:
Seriously, what's with the 'jews own the media' crap? There's no doubt a significant pro-israeli, zionist bias but why do people assume this means jews own shit?[/QUOTE]
uhm. Well, in Israel and arguably other corporate assets are kind of in their hands. Like for example, John Stewart is jewish.
[QUOTE=Conscript;36711811]And cultivating anti-semitism and jewish conspiracy theories among the people it marginalizes, apparently:
Seriously, what's with the 'jews own the media' crap? There's no doubt a significant pro-israeli, zionist bias but why do people assume this means jews own shit?[/QUOTE]
It's no secret that there are jewish people who are rich and are in big businesses like mass-media. Gerald M. Levin who is a media magnate is a jew, Michael Eisner the ex-CEO of Disney is a jew, Sumner Redstone who owns CBS, Viacom, MTV, BET, and Paramount Pictures is a jew, Peter Chernin who owned the News Corporation is a jew, the list goes on. It doesn't imply that the "jews" own the media but that there are media magnates who are jewish and that people skew that view.
I definitely have to oppose Israel's treatment of Palestine. Palestine is unfairly treated in every single field, they're not even a country now and can't apply for recognition by the UN. The concept of a zionist state shouldn't be mutually exclusive with that of a Palestine state.
What rhymes with Jews
news
Therefore, Jews are in control of the media.
[I]Duh[/I]
[QUOTE=Last or First;36711929]What rhymes with Jews
news
Therefore, Jews are in control of the media.
[I]Duh[/I][/QUOTE]
Dews also rhymes. My God, it's a Mountain Dew conspiracy
[QUOTE=Big Bang;36711926] The concept of a >ionist state shouldn't be mutually exclusive with that of a Palestine state.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, an ionist state would be dangerous. Everyone would die.
[QUOTE=Conscript;36711811]And cultivating anti-semitism and jewish conspiracy theories among the people it marginalizes, apparently:
Seriously, what's with the 'jews own the media' crap? There's no doubt a significant pro-israeli, zionist bias but why do people assume this means jews own shit?[/QUOTE]
I'm not anti-semitic, because there's bad people everywhere you go, but Jewish people do own a lot of businesses, I'm not being racist or stereotyping. It's a fact
i would say the majority of jewish people do not own businesses
therefor to say jewish people own a lot of business is dumb, because we don't collectively own businesses.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36712640]i would say the majority of jewish people do not own businesses
therefor to say jewish people own a lot of business is dumb, because we don't collectively own businesses.[/QUOTE]
A fuckton of movie-production studios are Jewish-owned....
You can hear his post fucking whistle as it goes over your head.
Read the first sentence again a few times.
[QUOTE=zombays;36712731]A fuckton of movie-production studios are Jewish-owned....[/QUOTE]
you mean chaired or CEO'd by jewish people
because the big movie-production studios are owned by people who own the stocks in that company, and that can be a lot of people.
Im not a racist or anything but the vast majority of Jews are assholes.
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[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36713342]Im not a racist or anything but the vast majority of Jews are assholes.[/QUOTE]
:(
Well they are under martial law, no matter how cruel it is there is little you can do.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36713342]Im not a racist or anything [B][U]but [/U][/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36713342]Im not a racist or anything but the vast majority of Jews are assholes.[/QUOTE]
how many have you met!!?
I bet the Jews did this..
[QUOTE=Nikota;36711887]uhm. Well, in Israel and arguably other corporate assets are kind of in their hands. Like for example, John Stewart is jewish.[/QUOTE]
your example for justification of the theory that jews run the media is that a jewish comedian now has a popular talkshow on basic cable on the comedy channel
do i really have to explain why this is so stupid
holy shit this is so old they've already made an award winning movie about it
4 years ago.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36713342]Im not a racist or anything but the vast majority of Jews are assholes.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a racist but I think we should enslave black people.
What are you THINKING?
First off, Jews aren't a race.
[QUOTE=ShootEvryRapper;36713789]First off, Jews aren't a race.[/QUOTE]
Semites are.
Sincerely, semite.
[QUOTE=ShootEvryRapper;36713789]First off, Jews aren't a race.[/QUOTE]
wheter they can be classified as a race or religion is a topic of debate, currently most people think you can consider them as either
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;36713819]wheter they can be classified as a race or religion is a topic of debate, currently most people think you can consider them as either[/QUOTE]
Judaism is a religion, semitism is the race associated with judaism.
Be careful, Israel is one of those "You push, we punch" kind of countries. Not to mention there police training is equivalent to American military training, so..... your move.
[QUOTE=ShootEvryRapper;36713789]First off, Jews aren't a race.[/QUOTE]
Nothing classes as a race if you want to get picky about it.
'Race' in the manner in which you use is pure pseudo-science, so racism apologists really need to stop using that defence.
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