Herman Cain: The Black Community is 'Brainwashed' to Vote Democrat - Polidicks

[release][B]Washington (CNN)[/B] - The one African-American running for the GOP presidential nomination said Wednesday the black community was 'brainwashed' for traditionally siding with liberal politicians. "African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," Godfather's Pizza executive Herman Cain said on CNN's "The Situation Room" in an interview airing Wednesday between 5-7 p.m. ET. "I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it's just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple."[/release] [I]Source: [URL]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/28/cain-black-community-brainwashed-into-voting-for-dems/[/URL][/I]

Herman, you hilarious motherfucker. Conservatism is the opposite of being open-minded.

Of course, everyone will interpret this as a claim of [I]literal[/I], Manchurian Candidate-esque brainwashing.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32548069]Of course, everyone will interpret this as a claim of [I]literal[/I], Manchurian Candidate-esque brainwashing.[/QUOTE] What do you think a secondary meaning of "brainwashing" could be?

I saw this earlier today. It's not that extreme of a comment in context. He simply meant that over generations black Americans have become so associated with the Democratic party that the vast majority of them aren't listening to the the Republicans. He went on to say that in a race against Obama, he says he might be able to pull about 30% of their votes to the Republican side. The quote was meant to illustrate that if he were selected as the party's nominee, it wouldn't be a racial ticket.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32548069]Of course, everyone will interpret this as a claim of [I]literal[/I], Manchurian Candidate-esque brainwashing.[/QUOTE] That's because they want them to. If they gave some watered down explanation of "brainwashing", it [i]obviously[/i] wouldn't have nearly as much impact.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32548094]What do you think a secondary meaning of "brainwashing" could be?[/QUOTE] Oh lol for a moment there I thought I had overestimated your desire to find everything wrong with the GOP, thank you for reassuring me that you're all silly enough to actually believe that shit Brainwashing as in stigma against Democrats, in African-American culture and media (Both black media and in general), which is misguided and not well-thought out. This is what HE'S saying! Not what I say.

I think he's just jealous.

Lincoln was a Republican! (Back when the Republicans were Democrats and the Democrats were Republicans)

[QUOTE=Bombardier.;32548061]Conservatism is the opposite of being open-minded.[/QUOTE] Literally. By definition, conservatism is against change, wanting there to be no change or minimal / gradual change. Plus, there's the whole "civil rights" thing...

either that or they'd rather not vote for a party which has proven itself to be riddled with racists and has made numerous attempts to assault the black community through law making.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32548162]Oh lol for a moment there I thought I had overestimated your desire to find everything wrong with the GOP, thank you for reassuring me that you're all silly enough to actually believe that shit Brainwashing as in stigma against Democrats, in African-American culture and media (Both black media and in general), which is misguided and not well-thought out. This is what HE'S saying! Not what I say.[/QUOTE] I don't think he really thinks they're being brainwashed, but I'm saying you don't use that word unless you mean it. He could've said "fooled", "conned", or something that goes along with misleading them, but "brainwashing" is incredibly abrasive.

Open Minded.. right.. I'm sorry, Herman Cain, but what is your stance on Gay Marriage, Abortion and the legalization of Marijuana?

I doubt the Americans need brainwashing in order to vote Democrat, they just need to listen to the stupid bullshit the republicans spit everyday.

Except you know, the liberal side of things are always the more progressive, open minded, while the conservative are the ones that refuse change and freedom. Is it opposite day all of a sudden?

A black man running for the GOP saying black people are brainwashed? Aahahahahahahahahahahahaaah look at who wants into the Klan Kookout.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;32548526]A black man running for the GOP saying black people are brainwashed? Aahahahahahahahahahahahaaah look at who wants into the Klan Kookout.[/QUOTE] Incidentally: The KKK allows black members. [img]http://www.kkklan.com/negrok1.gif[/img] [img]http://www.kkklan.com/negrok9.gif[/img] [url]http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;32548098]I saw this earlier today. [B]It's not that extreme of a comment in context.[/B] He simply meant that [B]over generations black Americans have become so associated with the Democratic party that the vast majority of them aren't listening to the the Republicans. [/B]He went on to say that in a race against Obama, he says he might be able to pull about 30% of their votes to the Republican side. The quote was meant to illustrate that if he were selected as the party's nominee, it wouldn't be a racial ticket.[/QUOTE] This.

[QUOTE=StormHammer;32548588]This.[/QUOTE] The vast majority of them aren't listening to the GOP not due to some "brainwashing", but because Social Conservatives have never stood for racial equality, and further try to diminish the impact of minority voters through gerrymandering.

[QUOTE=Bombardier.;32548061]Conservatism is the opposite of being open-minded.[/QUOTE] So you're saying holding to my values is the same thing as shutting out everyone? Hardly, I listen and either agree or disagree in constrast with my own beliefs and morals, what the constitution says, ect. There's either an absolute standard or there's none. This is why our latest three liberal clowncar presidents (Bush was NOT a conservative you phillistines) have essentially spent us into oblivion and let America pretty much turn into a paranoid police state that bombs or arrests everything that has the potential to look threatening. Liberals figure there should be no limit as long as the job gets done, hence why we're letting smelly TSA agents grope white three year old boys at the airport checking to make sure they're not Arab communist terrorists hiding C4 up their anuses. If you think groping toddlers and basically losing every last right to the protection of your country from something that hasn't happened again in ten years is okay, then you probably shouldn't live in America. I'll even buy you a ticket to Cuba, I hear they haven't been having terror attacks. [QUOTE=Last or First;32548267]Literally. By definition, conservatism is against change, wanting there to be no change or minimal / gradual change. Plus, there's the whole "civil rights" thing...[/QUOTE] Don't fix what ain't broke. With the exception of some elements that had their own reasoning that was applicable of the culture of the time (3/5ths clause, part of the reason some voted for it was to cripple the slave-packed states trying to get their slave=citizen count up) the status quo we had was fine until people started screwing with it and being do-gooders (prohibition amendment - lot of good that did us, for instance). People are still the same and the only difference in the era we live in is that different types of people are now trying to kill us, with different methods than the used to. Apart from that, people still steal, rape, and kill, the government still has no right to take everything away because we can't be responsible people, and people are still arguing over this petty thing about "it's this party/that party" when they should be criticizing the corruption, not these broad claims about either party that are not true.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;32548701]Liberals figure there should be no limit as long as the job gets done, hence why we're letting smelly TSA agents grope white three year old boys at the airport checking to make sure they're not Arab communist terrorists hiding C4 up their anuses.[/QUOTE] Find me a Liberal who actually believes this and I'll find you 5 who don't, myself included.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32548778]Find me a Liberal who actually believes this and I'll find you 5 who don't, myself included.[/QUOTE] I'll raise you 100. Seriously, as soon as somebody criticizes the GOP, your only solution is to say 'Oh, but our last three presidents weren't ACTUALLY Conservative'. I think the Republicans believed them conservative enough. You are a running joke, Jenkem. [quote]Apart from that, people still steal, rape, and kill, the government still has no right to take everything away because we can't be responsible people, and people are still arguing over this petty thing about "it's this party/that party" when they should be criticizing the corruption, not these broad claims about either party that are not true.[/quote] Wow a reasonable thing to say. I'm impressed.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32548633]The vast majority of them aren't listening to the GOP not due to some "brainwashing", but because Social Conservatives have never stood for racial equality, and further try to diminish the impact of minority voters through gerrymandering.[/QUOTE] In my 100% honest opinion, I sincerely believe that an extremely limited number of politicians give two donkey shits about racial equality as long as continue to get the African American vote. Just like Bush got the red-neck Bible Thumper vote because of his background, Obama got the black vote largely because of his skin color. I would have voted Democrat if I had been old enough at the time, but you are deluding yourself if you don't think that the drive for black people to finally say they've had a black president wasn't a [B]huge[/B] factor with him getting the African American vote, regardless of how capable he was to serve as president.

[QUOTE=StormHammer;32548881]In my 100% honest opinion, I sincerely believe that an extremely limited number of politicians give two donkey shits about racial equality as long as continue to get the African American vote. Just like Bush got the red-neck Bible Thumper vote because of his background, Obama got the black vote largely because of his skin color. I would have voted Democrat if I had been old enough at the time, but you are deluding yourself if you don't think that the drive for black people to finally say they've had a black president wasn't a [B]huge[/B] factor with him getting the African American vote, regardless of how capable he was to serve as president.[/QUOTE] Him being Black was a big factor in getting more African-Americans out to vote, but I guarantee you right now Obama being Black didn't sway a bunch of African-American GOP voters to the Democrats, the Black community usually votes Democratic anyway.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32548778]Find me a Liberal who actually believes this and I'll find you 5 who don't, myself included.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. We've let them get this way. We keep nodding our heads going "yeah, mhm, gotta stop those terrorists hiding under every rock." I somehow doubt if someone is determined to commit Jihad that any means is sufficient to stop them other than a fatal injury from a crummy capitalist pigdog M16. [QUOTE=MrEndangered;32548880]I'll raise you 100. Seriously, as soon as somebody criticizes the GOP, your only solution is to say 'Oh, but our last three presidents weren't ACTUALLY Conservative'. I think the Republicans believed them conservative enough. You are a running joke, Jenkem.[/QUOTE] You just fell into the same trap I just mentioned. I never said I'm for the GOP. I don't like them [I]either[/I]. They're all in the same boat of screwing you and me over year after year, they just hold a different angle. Bush was no conservative if he thought the Patriot Act, among other horrible ideas I don't have any patience to argue about, was okay. If you want a new idea, vote for Ron Paul. He wants to actually get rid of the money fiends imploding our economy. Otherwise we'll just keep getting pushed around by bankers and corporations as usual and stand by slack jawed wondering why our economy is still in the toilet. [QUOTE]Wow a reasonable thing to say. I'm impressed.[/QUOTE] Sarcasm? People haven't changed enough in the last 200 years to really worry about whether the constitution is not relevant. Tell me what new thing people do today that hasn't already been done, just more primitively?

[QUOTE=Jenkem;32549035]Doesn't matter. We've let them get this way. We keep nodding our heads going "yeah, mhm, gotta stop those terrorists hiding under every rock."[/quote] So you make a derogatory comment about liberals, and then when challenged on it say it doesn't matter? Real classy. [QUOTE=Jenkem;32549035]If you want a new idea, vote for Ron Paul. He wants to actually get rid of the money fiends imploding our economy. Otherwise we'll just keep getting pushed around by bankers and corporations as usual and stand by slack jawed wondering why our economy is still in the toilet.[/quote] All the while fighting to get rid of the income tax, the few business regulations that are still in place, welfare, the minimum wage, and leave gay marriage up to the states even more so than we already are, among other things. Sorry, but I won't be voting for him. [QUOTE=Jenkem;32549035]People haven't changed enough in the last 200 years to really worry about whether the constitution is not relevant. Tell me what new thing people do today that hasn't already been done, just more primitively?[/QUOTE] Seems like a pretty rash generalization to say that "people" don't care about the constitution.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32548556]Incidentally: The KKK allows black members. [url]http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm[/url][/QUOTE] I honestly didn't believe my joke would be taken so positively, I half expected FP to go "Oh no you don't you racist!"

[QUOTE=Jenkem;32548701](Bush was NOT a conservative you phillistines)[/QUOTE] He was a Neo-Conservative. Or a Compassionate Conservative, I forget witch.

Jenkem: "what no way we are definitely open minded" then proceeds to post the dumbest thing i've read in a while: [QUOTE=Jenkem;32548701]Liberals figure there should be no limit as long as the job gets done, hence why we're letting smelly TSA agents grope white three year old boys at the airport checking to make sure they're not Arab communist terrorists hiding C4 up their anuses. If you think groping toddlers and basically losing every last right to the protection of your country from something that hasn't happened again in ten years is okay, then you probably shouldn't live in America. I'll even buy you a ticket to Cuba, I hear they haven't been having terror attacks. [/QUOTE] good job making conservatives look daft yet again

I can see what Jenkem is saying, I hold somewhat conservative views myself (in regards to running the country, not social issues) but the Republican party doesn't represent my views at all. Not even in the tiniest bit, outside of some select few issues that are their bread and butter, or they claim to be at least. That still leaves all the other bullshit that I do not, nor ever will agree with.