• Morality in Legislation - 3 Things to consider
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The recent activity of Australia's morality dictated laws has got me to thinking. Morality in legislation is a difficult subject with a justifiable grey zone. You may think 1 of 2 things: [LIST=1] [*]The government should not be imposing their own morality on their citizens [*]The government was democratically elected and has equal representation, so their actions are justifiable when making decisions based off of morality [/LIST] The truth is, it's extremely subjective to the law. For instance, a law banning the production, purchase, and possession of pornography. The law is based off of the morality of either "Think of the children" or "The women are forced to do it". In this case, some people who see the adverse effects of pornography on a child or one of the actresses would say "ban it". But that's unfair to those who view pornography. So what do you do? Well you place restrictions. For example, child pornography is illegal, because children are easily tricked into doing what you want them to. That cuts down the widespreadness of child pornography. Women in the films are being abused? You regulate pornography and place checkups to make sure women are not being abused. That's one law. Let's talk about murder. Murder is bad. Definitely. Laws against murder are based on morality. However, the difference between porn and murder is that murder always hurts someone. Porn hurts someone depending on the consent of the stars. You can't regulate murder, however you can regulate pornography. Let's say something like smoking. Smoking always hurts someone, however you can lessen the cause of death by doing 2 things: regulating it, or banning it. Being [I]smart[/I], the US decided to regulate tobacco. Alcohol? Regulated. You see, it is simple to determine a law's justifiability if you think of these 3 thing: [LIST=1] [*]Does it ALWAYS hurt someone (or is it subjective?) [*]Can the hurt be lessened (or, like murder, will it always have the same impact?) [*]Is it actually hurting anybody at all? [/LIST] If it always hurts someone, it should most likely be banned If you can lessen the hurt, it should most likely be regulated, to maintain the freedom of choice. If it's not hurting anybody, it should be free to use/do. However, like everything, you cannot use simple mathematical equations to determine the legitimacy of something. These are just 3 important things to consider when making a decision.
That's logical and you would think most people would agree with it, but you're failing to acknowledge the human element. Humans will wait patiently to be outraged out of a sense of entitlement, marry themselves to a moral issue and valiantly see the issue to its grave as legislators attempt to squelch their tremulous voices. Something that's completely harmless can quickly get people on their soapboxes to anxiously alert the world of their outrage. The original issue continues to be harmless, but the transgressions between the idealistic opponents and the logic-driven proponents becomes a [I]real[/I] issue. On most moral issues, it's easy to see the line. It's easy to say "if you don't like it, turn the other way", but some people simply can't do that. The world is full of lunatics and entitled-feeling crybabies.
[quote]If it always hurts someone, it should most likely be banned[/quote] Weed was banned, but since it was banned, weed has been criminalized and cartels, etc, generate violence, you see where i'm headed right? Decriminalize weed and regulate it. Hell, make it so legal that i can plant it with my lawn too.
Logic before morality.
Legalize Armadillos, regulate and tax them for revenue. [quote]If it always hurts someone, it should most likely be banned[/quote] Make anal sex without lube illegal.
Morality before logic.
[QUOTE=Paravin;22927073]Morality before logic.[/QUOTE] No! The other way around!
[QUOTE=DrBreen;22926824]Weed was banned, but since it was banned, weed has been criminalized and cartels, etc, generate violence, you see where i'm headed right? Decriminalize weed and regulate it. Hell, make it so legal that i can plant it with my lawn too.[/QUOTE] how the fuck does weed hurt anyone
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22929864]how the fuck does weed hurt anyone[/QUOTE] point not gotten People hurt other people because of weed.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;22931131]point not gotten People hurt other people because of weed.[/QUOTE] People hurt other people because of anything.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22931187]People hurt other people because of anything.[/QUOTE] He's saying by outlawing something completely harmless you're only making it worse by promoting the criminalization of it. By making it legal and regulated you can get rid of the crime associated with it.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22931303]He's saying by outlawing something completely harmless you're only making it worse by promoting the criminalization of it. By making it legal and regulated you can get rid of the crime associated with it.[/QUOTE] Ah I see.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22931303]He's saying by outlawing something completely harmless you're only making it worse by promoting the criminalization of it. By making it legal and regulated you can get rid of the crime associated with it.[/QUOTE] Yes, sorry i'm not being clear enough but i'm (still) tired and cannot compute lots
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