• Your Brain Scan Looks Different on Mac and PC
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[img]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3365894/bin/pone.0038234.g006.jpg[/img] The percentage absolute thickness differences is color coded between 0% and 7%, the full range was 1.2% (right supramarginal gyrus) - 7.7% (right isthmus cingulate cortex). A p value above 0.025 (−log10(p)=1.602) was statistically significant after applying a FDR correction for multiple comparisons. [quote] FreeSurfer is a popular software package to measure cortical thickness and volume of neuroanatomical structures. However, little if any is known about measurement reliability across various data processing conditions. Using a set of 30 anatomical T1-weighted 3T MRI scans, we investigated the effects of data processing variables such as FreeSurfer version (v4.3.1, v4.5.0, and v5.0.0), workstation (Macintosh and Hewlett-Packard), and Macintosh operating system version (OSX 10.5 and OSX 10.6). Significant differences were revealed between FreeSurfer version v5.0.0 and the two earlier versions. These differences were on average 8.8±6.6% (range 1.3-64.0%) (volume) and 2.8±1.3% (1.1-7.7%) (cortical thickness). About a factor two smaller differences were detected between Macintosh and Hewlett-Packard workstations and between OSX 10.5 and OSX 10.6. The observed differences are similar in magnitude as effect sizes reported in accuracy evaluations and neurodegenerative studies.The main conclusion is that in the context of an ongoing study, users are discouraged to update to a new major release of either FreeSurfer or operating system or to switch to a different type of workstation without repeating the analysis; results thus give a quantitative support to successive recommendations stated by FreeSurfer developers over the years. Moreover, in view of the large and significant cross-version differences, it is concluded that formal assessment of the accuracy of FreeSurfer is desirable. [/quote] [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22675527[/url] Too dumb to understand
This isn't news at all. It's just a recommendation for researchers to not update FreeSurfer / switch between PC and Mac workstations while they're conducting a study. Bravo, shian.
A Mac fan using a Mac was having the same brain wave patterns as a religious person in a church afaik.
[QUOTE=Sandvich;36398665]This isn't news at all. It's just a recommendation for researchers to not update FreeSurfer / switch between PC and Mac workstations while they're conducting a study. Bravo, shian.[/QUOTE] not even that, its saying that freesurfer is shit in the accuracy department, if its changing that much across versions, or even just across OSes, it means that its useless in any situation because they cant know if the data collected is accurate or not
Probably because OSX uses a different system color palette compared to Windows.
[QUOTE=Wizard of Ass;36398726]A Mac fan using a Mac was having the same brain wave patterns as a religious person in a church afaik.[/QUOTE] yes because using an apple product instantly makes you a cult worshipper
[QUOTE=Wizard of Ass;36398726]A Mac fan using a Mac was having the same brain wave patterns as a religious person in a church afaik.[/QUOTE] I remember that article but I can't vouch for its credibility.
can we just stop now
[QUOTE=Wizard of Ass;36398726]A Mac fan using a Mac was having the same brain wave patterns as a religious person in a church afaik.[/QUOTE] so, like, conscious?
this isn't an article about mac or windows and which is better, its a statement of face stating that this software is shit, and if you use it your going to get bad results no mater what, this isn't even news
People read Mac and PC and so the shitstorm begins. Its about fucking software showing different shit in different versions. Cunts.
[img]http://www.macdesktops.net/data/528/3334HomerApple.jpg[/img]
Wow, that's awesome! Wait, no, the other thing... stupid, that's it.
If you actually read the article you guys would realize they aren't comparing Windows VS Mac. Sensationalist Headlines indeed.
How the fuck do they fuck it up so the calculations return different on different operating systems
[QUOTE=Tobba;36412469]How the fuck do they fuck it up so the calculations return different on different operating systems[/QUOTE] different math libraries, different ways of handling float point numbers, kind of like how the pentium 4 or 3 doesn't do multiplication or division properly
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36399067]yes because using an apple product instantly makes you a cult worshipper[/QUOTE] You are correct. Have an internet, or 1000. [img]http://captionsearch.com/pix/w3vt3ll3qu.jpg[/img]
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