Obama Pledges He Won't 'Walk Away' From Health Care Reform
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[QUOTE]President Obama on Friday pledged not to "walk away" from health care reform, telling a crowd in the Cleveland suburbs that he's still committed to driving down health care costs despite the crippling effect his party's loss in the Massachusetts Senate election had on the Democrats' bill.
The president, who along with party leaders has urged Congress to take a step back on health care reform, downplayed the drama and confusion that has dominated Capitol Hill since Republican Scott Brown's upset win in Massachusetts. He aggressively defended the work his administration has done so far on the economy, urged Congress to pass a new jobs bill and tried to link health care reform to that issue.
"Health care is part of the drag on our economy," Obama said. "We've gotten pretty far down the road but I've got to admit, we hit a little bit of a buzz saw this week."
Brown's win broke the Democrats' 60-vote supermajority in the Senate, imperiling the current version of the bill. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared Thursday that her chamber did not have the votes to pass the bill in its current form, meaning it would have to go through the Senate a second time.
"This is just what happens in Congress. It's just an ugly process," Obama said Friday. "And the longer it takes, the uglier it looks. ... And I'm not going to walk away just because it's hard. We are going to keep on working to get this done with Democrats -- I hope with Republicans."
He added: "I will take my lumps but I won't stop fighting to bring back jobs here."
Obama also urged Congress on Friday to enact a new jobs-creation bill and demanded that it include tax breaks for small business hiring and for Americans who make their homes more energy efficient. The visit to Ohio was a test of an aggressive populist push on jobs, a top worry for voters. The White House is shifting its message to emphasize the economy heading into November elections, which are expected to be difficult for Democrats.
Neither of the Obama-backed proposals was included in jobs legislation passed by the House of Representatives in December. That $174 billion stimulus package is now before the Senate, where it faces a tougher road, in part because it is financed with deficit spending.
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Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/22/obama-pledges-wont-walk-away-health-care-reform/[/url]
A: Fox News.
B: The Executive doesn't have a say in legislation.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19784048]A: Fox News.
B: The Executive doesn't have a say in legislation.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lankist;19784048]A: Fox News.
B: The Executive doesn't have a say in legislation.[/QUOTE]
A: News is news. Biased or not, those are his quotes. Biased or not, those are his actions. You can put a spin all you want on opinions, but it's hard to misinterpret cold hard facts. You don't have to be a liberal, republican, socialist, constitutionalist, or whatever to deny a quote that was said or an action was taken. :]
B: Of course the executive doesn't have a say in legislation. Makes me wonder why so much of America love to fall for "promises" of healthcare reforms by the president when all he can do is sign/veto a bill that has to go through congress first.
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B: Of course the executive doesn't have a say in legislation. Makes me wonder why so much of America love to fall for "promises" of healthcare reforms by the president when all he can do is sign/veto a bill that has to go through congress first.[/QUOTE]
Obama is the face of the government. He's what we see, the standard bearer, in a sense for what the government is suppose to be aiming towards, regardless if he has no control over it.
:obama:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19784324]Obama is the face of the government. He's what we see, the standard bearer, in a sense for what the government is suppose to be aiming towards, regardless if he has no control over it.
:obama:[/QUOTE]
Then that, my friend, is the fault of the school systems in not educating children of that. Another reason why public school systems should be run by the private sector. I digress, however.
[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;19784431]Then that, my friend, is the fault of the school systems in not educating children of that. Another reason why public school systems should be run by the private sector. I digress, however.[/QUOTE]
The public school system isn't to blame, it's the media for sensationalizing the position of the president.
[QUOTE=Lazor;19784483]The public school system isn't to blame, it's the media for sensationalizing the position of the president.[/QUOTE]
People are sheep when they are not given a good foundation to work with.
EDIT: Media is a business. Just like any other business, it will exploit a person's weakness and/or ignorance to gain money. Media isn't the problem. Education is.
[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;19784280]A: News is news. Biased or not, those are his quotes. Biased or not, those are his actions. You can put a spin all you want on opinions, but it's hard to misinterpret cold hard facts. You don't have to be a liberal, republican, socialist, constitutionalist, or whatever to deny a quote that was said or an action was taken. :]
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I disagree, it's very, very easy to take facts and quotes out of context and make them mean whatever you want. The 'facts' would be a complete transcript of everything he said, not a select few quotations. News companies look at these and generate news stories, and so reputation means everything, since they could either be presenting the facts and explaining them, or selecting a few quotes and twisting them.
I was not initiating a discussion, I was making a statement of fact that should be taken into consideration before commenting.
Doesn't matter if he walks away or not. The bill at current is dead, Republicans are united against everything they do so health reform period is dead, and they're all going to be thrown out of office this fall by a tsunami of corporate money.
goddamnit Massachusetts
[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;19784637]People are sheep when they are not given a good foundation to work with.
EDIT: Media is a business. Just like any other business, it will exploit a person's weakness and/or ignorance to gain money. Media isn't the problem. Education is.[/QUOTE]
you assume that there private schools don't have any sheep
you also assume abolishing public schools would somehow fix this problem
[QUOTE=Lazor;19786041]you assume that there private schools don't have any sheep
you also assume abolishing public schools would somehow fix this problem[/QUOTE]
I've been in a private school. They were the least educated of any class I was a member of. Mostly because the school only cared about raising tuition at ridiculous rates and begging for even MORE money at their little auctions and fundraisers.
Your first problem is your source
[QUOTE=Jewsus;19791905]Your first problem is your source[/QUOTE]
And yet no one cares.
[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;19784431]Then that, my friend, is the fault of the school systems in not educating children of that. Another reason why public school systems should be run by the private sector. I digress, however.[/QUOTE]
suck a dick
seriously
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you don't get an argument, you only deserve ridicule
[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;19784431]Then that, my friend, is the fault of the school systems in not educating children of that. Another reason why public school systems should be run by the private sector. I digress, however.[/QUOTE]
sorry kids there's an economic downturn, no school for 9 years
YAAAYYYYY!!!
[QUOTE=thisispain;19794281]sorry kids there's an economic downturn, no school for 9 years
YAAAYYYYY!!![/QUOTE]
Mitch Daniels just cut $240 million out of Indiana's public school funding, which is my state. They're closing schools, firing teachers, and in some cases thinking about shortening school years or even school weeks. My mom's school will probably be closed, which could very well cost her a job.
So yeah, it's not that far fetched. Though privatizing schools is an even more fucking retarded concept, we get to go back to the good ol' days of only the rich kids getting an education.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19784048]A: Fox News.
B: The Executive doesn't have a say in legislation.[/QUOTE]
doesn't the executive branch propose bills?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;19795186]doesn't the executive branch propose bills?[/QUOTE]
They are only allowed to draft bills on their own.
They can't even introduce them into Congress. They need to find a congressman who thinks it's a good idea who is willing to revise it for them.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;19795186]doesn't the executive branch propose bills?[/QUOTE]
No, that's done by congressman and senators.
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The President cannot participate directly in the legislative process, though he does wield considerable political pull among his own party.
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