• Silverlight, Unity and Java will no longer work in Google Chrome, as NPAPI support to be dropped nex
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[url]http://blog.chromium.org/2014/11/the-final-countdown-for-npapi.html[/url] [quote]Last September we announced our plan to remove NPAPI support from Chrome, a change that will improve Chrome's security, speed, and stability as well as reduce complexity in the code base. Since our last update, NPAPI usage has continued its decline. Given this usage data, we will continue with our deprecation plan. ... In April 2015 NPAPI support will be disabled by default in Chrome and we will unpublish extensions requiring NPAPI plugins from the Chrome Web Store. Although plugin vendors are working hard to move to alternate technologies, a small number of users still rely on plugins that haven't completed the transition yet. We will provide an override for advanced users (via chrome://flags/#enable-npapi) and enterprises (via Enterprise Policy) to temporarily re-enable NPAPI while they wait for mission-critical plugins to make the transition. In September 2015 we will remove the override and NPAPI support will be permanently removed from Chrome. Installed extensions that require NPAPI plugins will no longer be able to load those plugins.[/quote] (Remember, Netflix in Chrome uses HTML5 so that will still work) Here's their original explanation of this move when they first announced their intention to deprecate it: [url]http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html[/url] [quote]The Netscape Plug-in API (NPAPI) ushered in an early era of web innovation by offering the first standard mechanism to extend the browser. In fact, many modern web platform features - including video and audio support - first saw mainstream deployment through NPAPI-based plug-ins. But the web has evolved. Today's browsers are speedier, safer, and more capable than their ancestors. Meanwhile, NPAPI's 90s-era architecture has become a leading cause of hangs, crashes, security incidents, and code complexity. Because of this, Chrome will be phasing out NPAPI support over the coming year. We feel the web is ready for this transition. NPAPI isn't supported on mobile devices, and Mozilla plans to make all plug-ins except the current version of Flash click-to-play by default. Based on anonymous Chrome usage data, we estimate that only six NPAPI plug-ins were used by more than 5% of users in the last month. Still, we appreciate that it will take time to transition away from NPAPI, so we will be rolling out this change in stages.[/quote]
Unity already has a PPAPI compatible plugin, Java and Silverlight probably do too. It's not like these things will just completely stop working in Chrome
guess they'll have to use firefox for netflix on their computers then I look stupid now give me boxes I love boxes
I assume this means Outlook won't work in Chrome after this.
[QUOTE=MAspiderface;46570816]guess they'll have to use firefox for netflix on their computers then[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=smurfy;46570780](Remember, Netflix in Chrome uses HTML5 so that will still work) [/QUOTE]
I haven't encountered java in years on the web anyways
In Denmark we have this unversal identification system called NemID(EasyID) that is used to get access to pretty much everything state/municipal stuff, such as tax and even stuff like changing your address, logging into web-bank and shit like that. It runs on Java. Guess I'll have to stop using Chrome then.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46570927]In Denmark we have this unversal identification system called NemID(EasyID) that is used to get access to pretty much everything state/municipal stuff, such as tax and even stuff like changing your address, logging into web-bank and shit like that. It runs on Java. Guess I'll have to stop using Chrome then.[/QUOTE] Sounds awfully insecure.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46570927]In Denmark we have this unversal identification system called NemID(EasyID) that is used to get access to pretty much everything state/municipal stuff, such as tax and even stuff like changing your address, logging into web-bank and shit like that. It runs on Java. Guess I'll have to stop using Chrome then.[/QUOTE] It's like this in Norway also. Will have to install another browser on my parents computer.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46570933]Sounds awfully insecure.[/QUOTE] Depends on how its implemented really.
That sensational title, it was bound to happen anyday now, probably more browsers will follow suit now
They disabled support for NPAPI plugins in Chrome on Linux ages ago. One of the better reasons why I'm on firefox, NPAPI might suck but PPAPI is entirely controlled by Google at this point, and is pretty much fucking impossible to implement for everyone else.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46570927]In Denmark we have this unversal identification system called NemID(EasyID) that is used to get access to pretty much everything state/municipal stuff, such as tax and even stuff like changing your address, logging into web-bank and shit like that. It runs on Java. Guess I'll have to stop using Chrome then.[/QUOTE] We got something similar in Sweden called BankID. I believe it runs entirely as a seperate application though. It's still fucking terrible because it doesn't support 64 bit browsers so I have to fallback to Internet Explorer every time I need to log in with it somewhere. :v:
Don't worry you guys, Google totally loves the open web. [URL="http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation"]So what if they propose replacing half of NPAPI's functionality with Chrome-exclusive features?[/URL]
So chrome is going down the shitter as well, what am I supposed to use now?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46572336]So chrome is going down the shitter as well, what am I supposed to use now?[/QUOTE] sparkbrowser
[QUOTE=Ezhik;46572257]Don't worry you guys, Google totally loves the open web. [URL="http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation"]So what if they propose replacing half of NPAPI's functionality with Chrome-exclusive features?[/URL][/QUOTE] I'm not against replacing outdated insecure systems but I agree this was totally the wrong way to go about it, websites need to be more compatible together not less
[QUOTE=DrogenViech;46570871]I haven't encountered java in years on the web anyways[/QUOTE] Java is virtually useless because of this
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46570933]Sounds awfully insecure.[/QUOTE] Actually it's pretty fucking secure, if you wanted to impersonate another person you'd need: Full social security number The password, which has some pretty strict rules about length and characters included. And should you somehow get past that you'd also need their key card, basically when you have gone past number and password it prompts you to enter a number from that key card. So there is a physical element of the security.
Youtube can use html5. Not sure if they have forced it on users yet. I do remember you could enable it.
[QUOTE=Aide;46572560]Youtube can use html5. Not sure if they have forced it on users yet. I do remember you could enable it.[/QUOTE] It will use it if your browser is capable. IE 11 and Chrome use HTML5 without asking. Mainstream Firefox doesn't out of the box as it has a codec issue with the HTML5 Youtube player. It does in the nightly builds though.
half of the alternatives to npapi on google's developer pages have hardly any widespread browser support. on top of that native client / pepper plugins [url=https://developer.chrome.com/native-client]need to be installed via the web store[/url] for some reason. "NaCl modules must be run from the Chrome Web Store (CWS)."
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46572485]Actually it's pretty fucking secure, if you wanted to impersonate another person you'd need: Full social security number The password, which has some pretty strict rules about length and characters included. And should you somehow get past that you'd also need their key card, basically when you have gone past number and password it prompts you to enter a number from that key card. So there is a physical element of the security.[/QUOTE] Perhaps they mean the security of Java, not their specific implementation? I mean if there's an exploit in Java it wouldn't matter if you were supposed to have to know someone's entire genetic code to log in, because an exploit could allow you to bypass it. I'm not too up to date on how vulnerable Java is though so I'm not sure if that's a big concern
that said I'm all for making java and silverlight fuck right off. java was nigh unusable in the first place because it required you to jump so many hoops to convince the vm that your application was secure enough to run. ggrfrgr ninja
[QUOTE=Elspin;46572621]Perhaps they mean the security of Java, not their specific implementation? I mean if there's an exploit in Java it wouldn't matter if you were supposed to have to know someone's entire genetic code to log in, because an exploit could allow you to bypass it. I'm not too up to date on how vulnerable Java is though so I'm not sure if that's a big concern[/QUOTE] I would imagine that everything important is done server side and the Java app is just a front end. You could probably compromise the client side application, but that's pretty useless unless you can figure out the server side application as well.
Most web banks here use Java. What the shit, Google.
android is literally based on java [editline]25th November 2014[/editline] i already didnt use chrome, and now i definitely wont be
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;46572635]Most web banks here use Java. What the shit, Google.[/QUOTE] You're not confusing Java with Javascript, right? I've been with multiple banks and have never came across one that uses actual Java.
[QUOTE=Folstream;46571951]We got something similar in Sweden called BankID. I believe it runs entirely as a seperate application though. It's still fucking terrible because it doesn't support 64 bit browsers so I have to fallback to Internet Explorer every time I need to log in with it somewhere. :v:[/QUOTE] Use Mobile BankID instead. With it you don't have to install anything other than the mobile authentication app. Signing in works with any browser (or app) on any device as long as you have the BankID app running on your phone so you can type your PIN and authenticate.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;46572257]Don't worry you guys, Google totally loves the open web. [URL="http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation"]So what if they propose replacing half of NPAPI's functionality with Chrome-exclusive features?[/URL][/QUOTE] If they're in Chromium, what's to stop the Firefox developers from looking at the source code and creating a Firefox compatible version?
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