Michael Schumacher 'waking up very slowly', injuries caused by Go-Pro being mounted - Son Says - Polidicks

[quote] Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher is 'waking up very slowly' following the horrific brain injuries caused by a skiing accident, it emerged today. News of the 45-year-old's medical condition was passed on by his son, the kart-racing driver, Mick. French F1 commentator Jean-Louis Moncet told Europe 1 radio station: "I saw his son and he told me that Schumi is waking up very slowly; very slowly. "Although things are going at a slow pace, he has a lot of time, I would say he has his whole life in front of him to get back on track." Moncet, 69, also cast new light on the manner in which Schumacher was injured when he fell and struck a rock whilst skiing with Mick in the French Alps on December 29. "The problem for Michael was not the hit, but the mounting of the Go-Pro camera that he had on his helmet that injured his brain," said Moncet. Moncet confirmed that Schumacher was still "fighting" at his Swiss mansion, where he is being cared for in a purpose-built medical suite. [/quote] [url]http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1/michael-schumacher-waking-up-very-4419754[/url]

I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] Hopefully not, Go-Pros get some awesome footage and I'd hate to see their reputation go down.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46213199]I don't know what a Go-Pro is, but it seems it caused this, and it being accused may lead to a development, hopefully a more safe version, right?[/QUOTE] GoPros are the small cameras that people put on helmets to try and capture things from somebody's perspective. [t]http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/000026ef4/f213/GoPro-1.jpg[/t] Considering it was on-top of his helmet, I'm not really sure how it could have caused any injuries.

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] I'd guess Peter Jackson would have to get some special permit.

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] Well duh, a rigidly mounted leverage sticking out of your helmet will always increase the possibilities of something applying lot of leverage/torque onto your head and fuck up your neck. I suppose a rather easy solution would be modifying the mount intended to be mounted to the head to voluntarily pop off or snap when force that could be hurting the head/neck is applied.

It wasn't a torque-induced spinal injury though caek, it was straight up trauma to the head causing a severe brain injury. Really curious as to how the GoPro mount could have caused more trauma than the rock...

it sounds like the mount did it, not the gopro. something could have hit the camera and forced the mount to cave into the helmet.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46213313]it sounds like the mount did it, not the gopro. something could have hit the camera and forced the mount to cave into the helmet.[/QUOTE] Interesting helmet that gets penetrated by a plastic stick.

That's how helmets work, they collapse

Why not just make helmets with the cameras built in

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] Anything that compromises the structural integrity of the helmet is a safety risk. Those things are designed specifically and don't take kindly to modifications. [QUOTE=Gen. Crumpets;46213185]Hopefully not, Go-Pros get some awesome footage and I'd hate to see their reputation go down.[/QUOTE] If only they wouldn't default to fish-eyed "I can't see a fucking thing because it's all distorted and funhouse-y" mode...

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] I doubt it. It's no different than wearing a watch, really. In fact a watch could probably pose more of a risk for injury than A GoPro or its mount. And they're mounted outside the helmet, not inside. If you suffer a head injury even though you're wearing a helmet, that GoPro on the outside isn't going to make a difference

[QUOTE=lockdown6;46213217]I would assume that having something on your helmet makes it so that blows to it aren't deflected properly like they would usually be, since it's no longer a smooth rounded surface[/QUOTE] The force of the hit was probably focused on the mount, and not distributed across the membrane of the helmet.

[QUOTE=Gen. Crumpets;46213213]GoPros are the small cameras that people put on helmets to try and capture things from somebody's perspective. Considering it was on-top of his helmet, I'm not really sure how it could have caused any injuries.[/QUOTE] What about the mounting plates, and screws or what-not? They might go into the helmet, and some butt-ends of the mounting mechanism may come in contact with your head when you hit your helmet into something. [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;46213598]I doubt it. It's no different than wearing a watch, really. In fact a watch could probably pose more of a risk for injury than A GoPro or its mount. And they're mounted outside the helmet, not inside. If you suffer a head injury even though you're wearing a helmet, that GoPro on the outside isn't going to make a difference[/QUOTE] No different than wearing a what, a wrist-watch?

[QUOTE=Gen. Crumpets;46213185]Hopefully not, Go-Pros get some awesome footage and I'd hate to see their reputation go down.[/QUOTE] yeh i hope the potentially life-threatening dangerous design of a helmet mount isn't investigated and improved upon because i'd hate to see less cool stuff on youtube

[QUOTE=SEKCobra;46213481]Interesting helmet that gets penetrated by a plastic stick.[/QUOTE] It's all a matter of velocity. And don't underestimate plastic.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46213924]yeh i hope the potentially life-threatening dangerous design of a helmet mount isn't investigated and improved upon because i'd hate to see less cool stuff on youtube[/QUOTE] Let's be perfectly honest, what bright spark thought that something un-aerodynamic and incapable of distributing its force correctly would be smart to bolt onto a helmet? At least if a helmet is slammed into your head, that force is distributed partially into the helmet rather than your head entirely. [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=SEKCobra;46213481]Interesting helmet that gets penetrated by a plastic stick.[/QUOTE] Crash helmets are designed to collapse because if they're too hard to [B]not[/B] collapse when you suffer an impact, then the odds are the helmet's gonna break your head. They're meant to give way like a human being gives way and succumb to the force instead of making your skull do the job, akin to a second skull. This is why a lot of lower-grade ones for cycling and the like are made out of thin and pliable plastic combined with polystyrene, since polystyrene is [B]great[/B] at taking impact while also capable of breaking harmlessly.

Him skiing hors piste (sorry don't know the translation) caused his injuries.

They could stop wearing go pros and use google glass. But then again they might not want to turn into glassholes.

[QUOTE=Gen. Crumpets;46213213]GoPros are the small cameras that people put on helmets to try and capture things from somebody's perspective. [t]http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/000026ef4/f213/GoPro-1.jpg[/t] Considering it was on-top of his helmet, I'm not really sure how it could have caused any injuries.[/QUOTE] I imagine it could have caused a fair bit of drag when he hit the snow, might have wrenched his head about and caused more damage than a standard helmet. Pretty easy to understand really.

[QUOTE=Best4bond;46214478]They could stop wearing go pros and use google glass. But then again they might not want to turn into glassholes.[/QUOTE] Let's just hope that anyone who does swap from the GoPro to the Glass remembers to turn it off when they go drag racing, eh?

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46213199]I don't know what a Go-Pro is, but it seems it caused this, and it being accused may lead to a development, hopefully a more safe version, right?[/QUOTE] A GoPro is a small camera that people buy for $300 expecting to get footage like [video=youtube;wTcNtgA6gHs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTcNtgA6gHs[/video] but instead just usually get boring shit.

[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46214437]Him skiing hors piste (sorry don't know the translation) caused his injuries.[/QUOTE] slalom skiing

I think it's really unfair to blame the camera, especially unfair to name GoPro itself. If, and this is a big IF, having the camera mounted on the helmet compromised the protection provided by the helmet, that's the fault of the person attaching the camera. Not only that, but it's irrelevant what kind of camera it was, since anything attached to the helmet like that would have compromised the safety of the skier.

[QUOTE=geogzm;46213172]I wonder if people'll begin to cite GoPros as a safety risk or something, if the injuries were related to that.[/QUOTE] I'd feel better off using a chest harness or something I can use with my MOLLE plate carrier. Makes me wonder what having all the extra centers of gravity can do involving high precision movements.

[QUOTE=Adlertag1940;46216392]I'd feel better off using a chest harness or something I can use with my MOLLE plate carrier. Makes me wonder what having all the extra centers of gravity can do involving high precision movements.[/QUOTE] If a 180 pound person is thrown off by 6 ounces of weight, they're not balanced enough to be doing high precision movements.

I always thought they [I]were[/I] designed to give way if the camera was ever struck. A large, rigid protrusion from the top of a helmet is a good way to fuck yourself up in an accident.

[QUOTE=PaperBurrito;46215487]slalom skiing[/QUOTE] it's pretty much the opposite of slalom skiing. it's out of areas skiing

[QUOTE=darunner;46216501]If a 180 pound person is thrown off by 6 ounces of weight, they're not balanced enough to be doing high precision movements.[/QUOTE] I whole hardheartedly agree with you there.