[quote]As an ex-Brit, I’m well aware of the authorities’ love of surveillance and snooping, but even I, a pessimistic cynic, am amazed by the governments latest plan: to install Orwell’s telescreens in 20,000 homes.
£400 million ($668 million) will be spend on installing and monitoring CCTV cameras in the homes of private citizens. Why? To make sure the kids are doing their homework, going to bed early and eating their vegetables. The scheme has, astonishingly, already been running in 2,000 family homes. The government’s “children’s secretary” Ed Balls is behind the plan, which is aimed at problem, antisocial families. The idea is that, if a child has a more stable home life, he or she will be less likely to stray into crime and drugs.
It gets worse. The government is also maintaining a private army, incredibly not called “Thought Police”, which will “be sent round to carry out home checks,” according to the Sunday Express. And in a scheme which firmly cements the nation’s reputation as a “nanny state”, the kids and their families will be forced to sign “behavior contracts” which will “set out parents’ duties to ensure children behave and do their homework.”
And remember, this is the left-wing government. The Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling, batting for the conservatives, thinks these plans are “too little, and too late,” implying that even more obtrusive work needs to be done. Rumors that a new detention center, named Room 101, is being constructed inside the Ministry of Love are unconfirmed.
UPDATE: Further research shows that the Express didn’t quite have all its facts straight. This scheme is active, and the numbers are fairly accurate (if estimated), but the mentions of actual cameras in people’s homes are exaggerated. The truth is that the scheme can take the most troublesome families out of their homes and move them, temporarily, to a neutral, government-run compound. Here they will be under 24-hour supervision. CCTV cameras are not specifically mentioned, not are they denied, but 24-hour “supervision” certainly doesn’t rule this out from the camera-loving Brits.
It remains, though, that this is still excessively intrusive into the private lives of citizens, cameras or not. I have added links to the source and also more reliable reports. Thanks to everyone who wrote in.[/quote]
[url]http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/britain-to-put-cctv-cameras-inside-private-homes/[/url]
that's pretty bullshit, I'm sorry for you guys.
I was going to go into debunking this properly, but I stopped when I got to this part
[quote]The government’s “children’s secretary” Ed Balls[/quote]
Ed Balls was part of the Labour government voted out in 2010. This article's from 2009
Wat.
Well this is the first I've fucking heard of it.
I somewhat doubt this would go ahead.
[quote]
UPDATE: Further research shows that the Express didn’t quite have all its facts straight. This scheme is active, and the numbers are fairly accurate (if estimated), but the mentions of actual cameras in people’s homes are exaggerated. The truth is that the scheme can take the most troublesome families out of their homes and move them, temporarily, to a neutral, government-run compound. Here they will be under 24-hour supervision. CCTV cameras are not specifically mentioned, not are they denied, but 24-hour “supervision” certainly doesn’t rule this out from the camera-loving Brits.[/quote]
Make sure you read this part. Still ridiculous, of course, but it's not 1984 quite yet.
[QUOTE]UPDATE: Further research shows that the Express didn’t quite have all its facts straight. This scheme is active, and the numbers are fairly accurate (if estimated), but the mentions of actual cameras in people’s homes are exaggerated. The truth is that the scheme can take the most troublesome families out of their homes and move them, temporarily, to a neutral, government-run compound. Here they will be under 24-hour supervision. CCTV cameras are not specifically mentioned, not are they denied, but 24-hour “supervision” certainly doesn’t rule this out from the camera-loving Brits.[/QUOTE]
OK, that part should really be bolded. For a bit I thought they were actually going to be putting cameras in people's homes.
There's also this
[quote] according to the Sunday Express[/quote]
Express is probably the UK's worst newspaper, worse than the Daily Mail for making shit like this up
Even though the article is from '09:
Governments should have no say in the habits of a child: it's up to the parent. The government should only intervene if there is obvious evidence of abuse.
Must suck. Thankfully, I'm in Canada, so this doesn't affect me, but this'll be bad for fellow Brits.
Well, what dictates a "Troublesome family"?
Then the person monitoring this shit gets jailed up because the kid started jacking off on Camera?
Oh the is a UPDATE:.. that isn't as bad as I thought then.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37149961]Well, what dictates a "Troublesome family"?[/QUOTE]
Cannabis smokers and pub goers
Oh the articles from 2009. That's why it called it a left-wing government and mentioned a bunch of Labour members.
[QUOTE=Jah Mason;37149976]Cannabis smokers and pub goers[/QUOTE]
Seriously? That's it?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37149991]Seriously? That's it?[/QUOTE]
Of course not seriously
Why are people taking this article seriously at all
It's a fucking Daily Express article from 2009, do you know how many times a week the Daily Express says the government is going to come into your house, kill your baby and rape your wife? The answer is 7, and it's always on the front page along with Diana and Maddie conspiracy theories
[quote]The government is also maintaining a private army, incredibly not called “Thought Police”,[/quote]
Wow what an unbiased article I'm sure it's totally worth taking serously.
[quote]but the mentions of actual cameras in people’s homes are exaggerated. CCTV cameras are not specifically mentioned[/quote]
Well would you look at that.
[QUOTE=smurfy;37150029]Of course not seriously
Why are people taking this article seriously at all
It's a fucking Daily Express article from 2009, do you know how many times a week the Daily Express says the government is going to come into your house, kill your baby and rape your wife? The answer is 7, and it's always on the front page along with Diana and Maddie conspiracy theories[/QUOTE]
Sounds fun
This is the newspaper that this story came from
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the daily express has always been 'that newspaper'
i don't know if people actually openly admit they read the express.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37149961]Well, what dictates a "Troublesome family"?[/QUOTE]
If they all wear tracksuits.
Oh my god, I can't even imagine how "Ed Balls" got through school
Looks like Britain will eventually need V for real.
So do you have to sign up manually or is it an opt-out thing because I'm not okay with this :v:
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