Two years after the Gaza War, Gaza remains imprisoned - Polidicks

[URL="http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/12/28/two-years-after-operation-cast-lead-gaza-remains-imprisoned/"]The Independent[/URL] [quote=The Independent (By Jody McIntyre)]It feels strange to spend time over the Christmas period in a quiet Yorkshire village with family; this time last year, I was on my way to the Gaza Strip. It was the second time I had travelled to Gaza; the first time was in March 2009, just a few months after Israel had launched Operation Cast Lead, a twenty-two day assault on the Strip, in which 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed. Hard to describe as a conflict, a massacre perhaps, but a tragedy undoubtedly. Just as English students are currently enjoying the school holidays, many Gazans had time off school in the winter of 2008/09. There were no lessons in the UN school in Gaza when it was showered with white phosphorus. The Universities in Gaza were closed when they were shelled by the Israeli military. Terrorist breeding grounds, or institutions of education? In January, I interviewed Ayman Quader, a Palestinian student hoping to leave Gaza to pursue a course abroad. “I remember when I was still at secondary school,” Ayman told me, “it was before the withdrawal of Israeli settlers from Gaza in 2005, and the Israeli army would block the road that ran from where I lived to where my school was. So, from an early age I learned the education of occupation.” Reporting on the current situation in Gaza is all too familiar a story. [B]First of all, we ignore the context of the Israeli-imposed, Egyptian-enforced siege of the Gaza Strip, plunging 1.5 million people into a desperate and isolated existence. We also ignore the fact that hundreds of thousands of these people are refugees, displaced from their homes inside what is now the State of Israel in 1948 and 1967. When Palestinian armed groups fire rockets into Israel, they are “terrorists firing at civilians”, but when the Israeli army fires at and kills Palestinian farmers and fishermen, they are “soldiers shooting at suspicious figures near the border”. The double-standards never cease to amaze.[/B] It is all too easy to forget that whilst Hamas came to power, through a democratic election, in 2006, the Israeli occupation of Palestine began not in 2008, when they invaded Gaza, nor in 2006, when they invaded Lebanon, but in 1948. 2011 will mark the sixty-third year of that occupation. As political commentator Ali Abunimah observed this week, “we must remember that the Palestinian people in Gaza are not objects of an isolated humanitarian cause, but partners in the struggle for justice and freedom throughout Palestine.” [B]I remember living with the Hanoun family in the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Sheikh Jarrah in the summer of last year. When the family were evicted from their home to make way for foreign settlers, despite the opposition of the UN, the EU and both British and American consuls in Jerusalem, Sharihan Hanoun, one of the daughters of the family, refused to cancel the psychology exam she was due to sit at her University a few days later. She did her revision on the pavement opposite her home, where we also slept, and got the highest mark in her year.[/B] As the South African freedom fighter Steve Biko once said, “The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” The State of Israel can oppress the Palestinians for another sixty-three years, but it will never defeat their spirit, or win their minds.[/quote] :smith:

pfff, earth belongs to all man

[QUOTE=thisispain;27044661]pfff, earth belongs to all man[/QUOTE] silly humens

Israel has become the monster it was created to save Jews from.

The government and military are far too paranoid of the Palestinians on the Gaza strip, thinking that nearly all of them are terrorists.

[QUOTE=thisispain;27044661]pfff, earth belongs to all man[/QUOTE] Pfft, pitiful humans, quarreling over specks of dirt on a mudball.

[QUOTE=thisispain;27044661]pfff, earth belongs to all man[/QUOTE] woo Rousseau

This isn't news, this is an incredibly biased opinion piece

[QUOTE=Regulas021;27113653]This isn't news, this is an incredibly biased opinion piece[/QUOTE] 'Biased' opinion piece based on facts and real events.

At least they halt the terrorists, insurgents, hamas and eskimos power.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27114282]At least they halt the terrorists, insurgents, hamas and eskimos power.[/QUOTE] Fucking Eskimos and their road side ice blocks.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27114282]At least they halt the terrorists, insurgents, hamas and eskimos power.[/QUOTE] This is coming from someone who looks like an SS commander. Also are these the terrorists and Insurgents your talking about. [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nf5FfHNth64/TRkhrpXj0MI/AAAAAAAALcc/JxFphLPMwIA/s1600/Gaza_Operation_Cast_Lead_001%255B1%255D.jpg[/media]

[QUOTE=SBD;27045547]Israel has become the monster it was created to save Jews from.[/QUOTE] i dunno i think thats a bit far. i mean, israel isn't forcing them into concentration camps or trying to systematically exterminate them

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122681]i dunno i think thats a bit far. i mean, israel isn't forcing them into concentration camps or trying to systematically exterminate them[/QUOTE] It doesn't have to be directly comparative to Hitler to be the same concept.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122693]It doesn't have to be directly comparative to Hitler to be the same concept.[/QUOTE] not saying that i agree with israels treatment of the palestinians (because i don't!) but comparing them to the nazi regime is ridiculous no matter what.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122715]not saying that i agree with israels treatment of the palestinians (because i don't!) but comparing them to the nazi regime is ridiculous no matter what.[/QUOTE] You have been brainwashed. The following is not safe for work. [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nf5FfHNth64/TRkhrpXj0MI/AAAAAAAALcc/JxFphLPMwIA/s1600/Gaza_Operation_Cast_Lead_001%255B1%255D.jpg[/media] [media]http://schema-root.org/region/middle_east/palestine/people/casualties/children/burnt_palestinian_child.jpg[/media]

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122737]You have been brainwashed.[/QUOTE] how so? i mean, what parallels can you draw between israel and nazi germany?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122715]not saying that i agree with israels treatment of the palestinians (because i don't!) but comparing them to the nazi regime is ridiculous no matter what.[/QUOTE] Agreed, but not 'no matter what'. You can compare a things, but not forced concentration camps and the like.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122789]Agreed, but not 'no matter what'. You can compare a things, but not forced concentration camps and the like.[/QUOTE] yeah rather then no matter what i meant more like, at the moment. if they actually started ethnically cleansing the reason then yeah the comparisons would have some merit, but until then comparing them to the nazi regime is just silly

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122763]how so? i mean, what parallels can you draw between israel and nazi germany?[/QUOTE] Take a look at the pictures. You're telling me that those are not evidence of systematic extermination, albeit under-the-radar and hidden by the jewish presence in the american/israeli media? [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122807]yeah rather then no matter what i meant more like, at the moment. if they actually started ethnically cleansing the reason then yeah the comparisons would have some merit, but until then comparing them to the nazi regime is just silly[/QUOTE] It is ethnic cleansing. [media]http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/Palestinian%20Dead%20in%20Street.jpg[/media]

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122808]Take a look at the pictures. You're telling me that those are not evidence of systematic extermination, albeit under-the-radar and hidden by the jewish presence in the american/israeli media?[/QUOTE] no it's not? it's people killed in over zealous IDF attacks which yeah it's shit but it's nothing compared to what the nazi's did. you could get pictures exactly like that but from the afghanistan war or the iraq one, is that evidence that america is trying to systematically exterminate the afghanis and iraqis?

[QUOTE=SBD;27045547]Israel has become the monster it was created to save Jews from.[/QUOTE] Somehow I find it hard to imagine that Israel is as bad as a country that executed end exploited 'undesirables' with industry-like efficiency. [QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122831]no it's not? it's people killed in over zealous IDF attacks which yeah it's shit but it's nothing compared to what the nazi's did. you could get pictures exactly like that but from the afghanistan war or the iraq one, is that evidence that america is trying to systematically exterminate the afghanis and iraqis?[/QUOTE] See dead person: cry genocide.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122808] It is ethnic cleansing.[/QUOTE] The indiscriminate white phosphorous bombings seem that way, but it's on a much smaller scale.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122840]The indiscriminate white phosphorous bombings seem that way, but it's less blatant.[/QUOTE] Ethnic cleansing is subjective since the reign of Hitler.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122808]Take a look at the pictures. You're telling me that those are not evidence of systematic extermination, albeit under-the-radar and hidden by the jewish presence in the american/israeli media? [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] It is ethnic cleansing.[/QUOTE] And not only that, just by looking at israeli settlements i believe they want to pressure the palestinians to move away into more moniterable areas, therefore causing them to live in de facto ghettos, that's what nazi germany did also, also i have no doubt as a result of this pressure, they will disperse into neighboring Arab countries, therefore making Israel almost entirely a Jewish state , Germany wanted to be an entirely German State, also i doubt Israel wants to kill off all of the Palestinians, but intimidate them into leaving Palestine and Israel can then claim they left peacefully.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122831]no it's not? it's people killed in over zealous IDF attacks which yeah it's shit but it's nothing compared to what the nazi's did. you could get pictures exactly like that but from the afghanistan war or the iraq one, is that evidence that america is trying to systematically exterminate the afghanis and iraqis?[/QUOTE] Actually, america's goal is the oil, not the land. And as such, to gain the land you either kill the populace or you force them to convert.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122850]Ethnic cleansing is subjective since the reign of Hitler.[/QUOTE] if you're gonna compare something to hitlers regime then it should actually deserve the comparison.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27122808] [media]http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/Palestinian%20Dead%20in%20Street.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] You know the story behind that right? It was taken by a hidden BBC journalist from his apartment window. Israeli agents arrested that man, then fired shots in the air to disperse the crowd, once they left they executed him on the spot

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122873]if you're gonna compare something to hitlers regime then it should actually deserve the comparison.[/QUOTE] Like I said, it is subjective.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122878]You know the story behind that right? It was taken by a hidden BBC journalist from his apartment window. Israeli agents arrested that man, then fired shots in the air to disperse the crowd, once they left they executed him on the spot[/QUOTE] Source?