Not So Neighborly Associations Foreclosing On Homes
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[URL]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128078864[/URL]
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Capt. Mike Clauer was serving in Iraq last year as company commander of an Army National Guard unit assigned to escort convoys. It was exceedingly dangerous work — explosive devices buried in the road were a constant threat to the lives of Clauer and his men.
He was halfway through his deployment when he got a bolt from the blue — a frantic phone call from his wife, May, back in Texas.
"She was bawling on the phone and was telling me that the HOA [homeowners association] had foreclosed on our house, and it was sold," he says. "And I couldn't believe that could even happen."
Clauer had a hard time understanding what his wife was saying. His $300,000 house was already completely paid for. Could it be possible that their home was foreclosed on and sold because his wife had missed two payments of their HOA dues?
In many states it is not difficult for an HOA to foreclose on a member's home for past dues even if the amount owed is just a few hundred dollars.
"I was really in a hurry trying to get home before my family was living on the streets," Clauer says.
[B]Sold For A Steal[/B]
But by the time he got back to Texas, it was too late. The Clauers' four-bedroom, 3,500-square-foot home had been sold on the courthouse steps for just $3,500 — enough to cover outstanding HOA dues and legal costs.
The new owner quickly sold it for $135,000 and netted a tidy profit.
"Basically it's everything to us," Clauer says. "Having a house like this paid for was huge for us, for our retirement plans. We thought we were so far ahead, and now it's like we're starting from the beginning."
Lawyers for the HOA say that while Clauer's case is regrettable, it was his and his wife's fault for not paying their dues in a timely manner.
"The fact of the matter is, the laws of the state of Texas allow the homeowners association to file assessment liens on properties who haven't paid their assessments, and they also allow foreclosure on those liens," says Patrick Whitaker, who represents the HOA. "And the homeowners association followed the letter of the law."
[B]Beg For Mercy[/B]
And in 33 states, an HOA does not need to go before a judge to collect on the liens.
It's called nonjudicial foreclosure, and in practice it means a house can be sold on the courthouse steps with no judge or arbitrator involved. In Texas the process period is a mere 27 days — the shortest of any state.
David Kahne, a Houston lawyer who advises homeowners, says that in Texas, the law is so weighted in favor of HOAs, he advises people that instead of hiring him, they should call their association and beg for mercy.
"I suggest you call the association and cry," he says.
If a homeowner misses a couple of association dues payments, the $250 or $500 they owe often becomes $3,000 after the association's lawyers add their legal fees, Kahne says.
It's not the HOA that has to pay the lawyer's bill but the delinquent homeowner. If the homeowner wishes to contest and loses, the owner is on the hook for legal fees that could run deep into the tens of thousands of dollars.
Kahne says that as the economy has gone under, HOA management companies and lawyers have been making millions off homeowners through this foreclosure process.
"We're having literally thousands of lawsuits filed over very small amounts of money," Kahne says. "And those very small amounts of money rapidly become large amounts of money when the association attorneys add their bills."
Suddenly faced with a demand that they pay $3,000 immediately or lose their home, many disbelieving homeowners don't know where to turn.
With the recession, foreclosure filings for delinquent HOA assessments in Texas have increased from about 1 percent of all home foreclosures to more than 10 percent currently, according to the industry.
[B]'Won't You Be My Neighbor'[/B]
Over the past 20 years, HOAs have exploded across Texas. While there are 1,100 municipalities, there are now 30,000 HOAs. And these associations have far more power to take away a citizen's home than any city or county in Texas.
The perception that the balance of power has swung too far toward HOAs has begun to permeate the Texas Legislature. Reform legislation has passed the Texas House of Representatives, but no bill has been able to make it through the state Senate.
"Associations are a collection of neighbors," says Republican state Sen. John Carona, who represents Dallas. "The goal has to be to work well together — have a harmonious community — and to create a lifestyle that people enjoy and want to be a part of."
In addition to representing Dallas, Carona owns the largest HOA management company in the country — Associa, which has more than 100 offices, 6,000 employees and 7,000 HOA clients in 30 states and Mexico.
Carona defends the rights of HOAs to foreclose for delinquent dues, even for small amounts.
"If an association did not have a means, a forceful means, to collect that money from any homeowner who, for whatever reason, couldn't pay, it places an unfair burden on every other owner in that association," Carona says. "And a burden, quite candidly, that those other members didn't bargain for."
There have been complaints that some members of HOA boards have bought HOA-foreclosed properties for a pittance, and then sold them for a hefty profit.
In Texas, there are no laws to prevent this. Carona says the best way to address this apparent conflict of interest is not by passing new state laws but by letting the HOAs handle it internally through modification of the association's constitution.
"I think that an association can avoid that type of thing by adopting conflict-of-interest rules," he says.
[B]Closing Loopholes[/B]
Republican state Rep. Burt Solomons from North Texas has been trying in vain to pass HOA reform legislation. He says during state legislative hearings there was no shortage of outraged homeowners, but he acknowledges that the HOAs, their property management companies and their lawyers fought back effectively.
Solomons says HOA board members and advocates testify and say, "'We need the power to access and fine and foreclose, and we need the money. And we look for people in violation of the rules and restrictions that we put in place.'"
"And they drive around in golf carts looking for them," Solomons says.
In theory, HOAs are only supposed to foreclose for nonpayment of dues. But Solomons says that through a loophole in Texas law, in practice, HOAs can foreclose for nonpayment of HOA fines, too. Solomons watched with frustration last year as his reform bill died in the Senate.
[B]Legal Recourse[/B]
As for Clauer, he's gone from fighting in Iraq to fighting his HOA in Texas. And if he weren't in the military, Clauer would have no legal recourse at this point.
But in a spasm of gratitude in 2003, Congress passed the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act, which was supposed to prevent nonjudicial foreclosures against military personnel fighting oversees.
"Hopefully we're going to get the house back," Clauer says. "That's what we're fighting for — that the judge will understand that this was illegal. That the HOA can't do what they've done."
If a federal court decides in favor of the Clauers, the foreclosure and subsequent sales of their home would have to be unwound and the deed returned to them. If they lose, the captain's nice, paid-for, suburban home would be lost to his family forever. The case goes to court early next year.
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This shouldn't even be fucking possible.
Home Owners Associations are the devil and hitler rolled into one. They are the worst fucking things ever.
EDIT: Seriously I wish Hell existed so these fuckers could go there
Seriously, fuck the system, my family just got fined £11,500 by the Child Support Agency for a payment which was missed over 15 years ago, but was left so long the interest has gone up massively. Fucking bullshit.
poor guy :smith:
Hope he gets his house back...
Should be illegal to take any military personal's house away if he is serving the country, End of story.
They keep this shit up, people are going to start being violent.
We got fined 500$ because we had a sign in our front lawn with my name on it saying "Go Chantilly Chargers"
Fuck those assholes. They also *almost* fined us because there was one spot above our garage with paint that was slightly faded.
HOA's are dumb.
HOA are constantly sending us letters, because my house doesn't look pretty, according to their standards.
Where the fuck do these assholes get this kind of power. Really come on they are selling other peoples' property with out even consenting the home owner. This is even worse than the crap that happened to the Sonoma gay couple, funny the government is supposed to serve us but only to pushed and bought away by private corporations.
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;23007828]Seriously, fuck the system, my family just got fined £11,500 by the Child Support Agency for a payment which was missed over 15 years ago, but was left so long the interest has gone up massively. Fucking bullshit.[/QUOTE]
The CSA are major fuckwits.
Hi welcome back to the country, thanks for protecting our lives. btw we took your house.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;23010377]Should be illegal to take any military personal's house away if he is serving the country, End of story.[/QUOTE]
This.
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[QUOTE=CubeManv2;23010377]Should be illegal to take any military personal's house away if he is serving the country, End of story.[/QUOTE]
This; Military should enable some kind of auto-pay from their pay for important shit like this.
So they were behind on a few hundred dollars, and they foreclosed their allready paid for $300,000 house? Sold for $3,500... wow.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;23010377]Should be illegal to take any military personal's house away if he is serving the country, End of story.[/QUOTE]
it should be illegal for a HOA to foreclose your house for missed payments. period.
see this is one of the few things I dislike about Texas
also HOA's are evil in general
HURR DURR NO YOU CAN'T PUT THAT 8'x8' SHED IN YOUR YARD IT WILL BLOCK THE GREEN SPACE
What a load of shit.
And I bet this loophole won't be sealed for quite a long time.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;23012328[B]]see this is one of the few things I dislike about Texas[/B]
also HOA's are evil in general
HURR DURR NO YOU CAN'T PUT THAT 8'x8' SHED IN YOUR YARD IT WILL BLOCK THE GREEN SPACE[/QUOTE]
That is possibly the first time i've ever seen someone say that. And one of the first times i've agreed with you. Texas is nice, despite some of the people here.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;23012328]see this is one of the few things I dislike about Texas
also HOA's are evil in general
HURR DURR NO YOU CAN'T PUT THAT 8'x8' SHED IN YOUR YARD IT WILL BLOCK THE GREEN SPACE[/QUOTE]
When it's not the HOA I have neighbors anonymously calling in city inspectors on each other.
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Oh guess, I live in texas
[QUOTE=green bandit;23011191]HOA are constantly sending us letters, because my house doesn't look pretty, according to their standards.[/QUOTE]
Send them a letter back saying "Well you're face doesn't look pretty either".
Await the sweet satisfaction of zing.
I hate these fuckers so much. Let is live in peace you assholes. You pricks shouldn't be able to tell us we have to pay them to buy a home. It's almost a monopoly. Really, go and find a home you can buy that ins't restricted by a HOA, sure they aren't one corporation but they do the same goddamn things. It's inhumane.
Home Owner Associations are such fucking bullshit. This kind of stuff should be illegal.
I don't think ours has pulled something like this, but the second week of february, after a real shitty winter, around 99% of the community got a letter that people would soon be fined if the grass(that had gotten brown for pretty much everyone) was not made to their perfect standards again. We had to pull up what was left of our whole front yard, along with several neighbors.
This is why we can't have nice things. :smith:
How is this shit even marginally legal in any fucking way?
Glad we don't have anything like this in my country.
homeowner's association
because fuck you, your house looks like ass
I hope they pull some fucking bullshit on some kid that grows up to be president, then they make a whole bunch of fucking bs laws against HOA, and then congress passses it cuz they are pissed at HOA too
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