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The Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (Hungarian: 1956-os forradalom) was a spontaneous nationwide revolt against the government of the People's Republic of Hungary and its Soviet-imposed policies, lasting from 23 October until 10 November 1956.
The revolt began as a student demonstration which attracted thousands as it marched through central Budapest to the Parliament building. A student delegation entering the radio building in an attempt to broadcast its demands was detained. When the delegation's release was demanded by the demonstrators outside, they were fired upon by the State Security Police (ÁVH) from within the building. The news spread quickly and disorder and violence erupted throughout the capital.
The revolt spread quickly across Hungary, and the government fell. Thousands organized into militias, battling the State Security Police (ÁVH) and Soviet troops. Pro-Soviet communists and ÁVH members were often executed or imprisoned, as former prisoners were released and armed. Impromptu councils wrested municipal control from the ruling Hungarian Working People's Party and demanded political changes. The new government formally disbanded the ÁVH, declared its intention to withdraw from the Warsaw Pact and pledged to re-establish free elections. By the end of October, fighting had almost stopped and a sense of normality began to return.
After announcing a willingness to negotiate a withdrawal of Soviet forces, the Politburo changed its mind and moved to crush the revolution. On 4 November, a large Soviet force invaded Budapest and other regions of the country. Hungarian resistance continued until 10 November. Over 2,500 Hungarians and 700 Soviet troops were killed in the conflict, and 200,000 Hungarians fled as refugees. Mass arrests and denunciations continued for months thereafter. By January 1957, the new Soviet-installed government had suppressed all public opposition. These Soviet actions alienated many Western Marxists, yet strengthened Soviet control over Central Europe.
Public discussion about this revolution was suppressed in Hungary for over 30 years, but since the thaw of the 1980s it has been a subject of intense study and debate. At the inauguration of the Third Hungarian Republic in 1989, October 23 was declared a national holiday.[/quote]From Wikipedia.
Sadly, the revolution was crushed, when the soviet tanks penetrated Budapest's defenses. No help from the west, since they were busy with the Suez Crisis.
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Egyébként meg csá minden magyarnak.
I had relatives that participated in the revolution :buddy:
Too bad it fell through into failure :saddowns:
I always thought the reason the Hungarians didn't receive help from the West was because of fear of war with the Soviet Union.
[QUOTE=Uberwumpus;25582963]I always thought the reason the Hungarians didn't receive help from the West was because of fear of war with the Soviet Union.[/QUOTE]
Most pepole thinks that too, I mean it is pretty obvious, but they did interfere in Vietnam. Makes you think what if the revolution took place a few months later, would the West help?
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Sadly, the revolution was crushed, when the soviet tanks penetrated Budapest's defenses. No help from the west, since they were busy with the Suez Crisis.
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Happily *
[QUOTE=BBKF;25583754]They were Hungary for change.[/QUOTE]
Change you can believe in!
I love how Warhol uses Hungary as a prime example of successful communism all the time.
Sadly, the revolution was crushed, when the soviet tanks penetrated Budapest's defenses. No help from the west, since they were busy with the Suez Crisis.
so it wasnt really a revolution?
My grandfather was a tank commander there before the revolution and escaped with my aunts and grandmother when the shit started going down. Getting out, they almost got lined up against a wall a few times, but luckily my grandfather is a badass motherfucker/quick draw and got the soldiers to piss off most of the time. They had to eat snow because they couldn't afford to stop for supplies. Imagine telling your kids that snow'll have to do because you have no food, while you're being tracked by soldiers. From what I hear it's pretty amazing they got out and that my mother or I were born.
[QUOTE=Tuvok;25583834]Sadly, the revolution was crushed, when the soviet tanks penetrated Budapest's defenses. No help from the west, since they were busy with the Suez Crisis.
so it wasnt really a revolution?[/QUOTE]
Happily, the revolution was crushed.
[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25583876]Happily, the revolution was crushed.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha
We feel for ya dude.
Although we had a revolution in 1918
Cheers from Latvia
I love how Glorious leader is rating everyone dumb, and rating himself agree.
What is your problem with hungarians?
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[QUOTE=Latency;25583875]My grandfather was a tank commander there before the revolution and escaped with my aunts and grandmother when the shit started going down. Getting out, they almost got lined up against a wall a few times, but luckily my grandfather is a badass motherfucker/quick draw and got the soldiers to piss off most of the time. They had to eat snow because they couldn't afford to stop for supplies. Imagine telling your kids that snow'll have to do because you have no food, while you're being tracked by soldiers. From what I hear it's pretty amazing they got out and that my mother or I were born.[/QUOTE]
Wow, pretty amazing man, where did they went after all? A lot of pepole went to the US or the UK
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[QUOTE=Tuvok;25583834]Sadly, the revolution was crushed, when the soviet tanks penetrated Budapest's defenses. No help from the west, since they were busy with the Suez Crisis.
so it wasnt really a revolution?[/QUOTE]
Well, the old goverment was crushed, we had a new prime minister only for a few days, because the soviets took care of him sadly :saddowns: But after that, life was still pretty bad, but it was a lot better, the ÁVH (Basically, hungarian KGB) didn't waltz into your home at 3AM to take you away, because your neighbour who hated you phoned them, saying that you are a Spy from the west.
but noo soviet union is cool herp derp stalin 4 leader
My dad was born during the Revolution, my grandfather participated in it, shit is pretty awesome. Too bad it failed though.
[QUOTE=Paravin;25584332]but noo soviet union is cool herp derp stalin 4 leader[/QUOTE]
Are you a Christian?
[QUOTE=person11;25584370]My dad was born during the Revolution, my grandfather participated in it, shit is pretty awesome. Too bad it failed though.[/QUOTE]
Where are you from?
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[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25584403]Are you a Christian?[/QUOTE]
Stop trolling the thread, jeez.
[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25584403]Are you a Christian?[/QUOTE]
How does disliking the Soviet Union make a person Christian?
[QUOTE=Paravin;25584556]How does disliking the Soviet Union make a person Christian?[/QUOTE]
Never said it did.
I was asking you because I saw you shitstorming atheist threads before.
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[QUOTE=ZuXer;25584548]
Stop trolling the thread, jeez.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trolling this thread. I'm simply expressing my opinions which happen to be different from ones most of the people in this thread have.
The reason why I do this is because threads like this give communism a bad reputation. (Even though [b]the Soviet Union NEVER was communist[/b], it's still often associated with communism)
[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25584592]Never said it did.
I was asking you because I saw you shitstorming atheist threads before.
[editline]23rd October 2010[/editline]
I'm not trolling this thread. I'm simply expressing my opinions which happen to be different from ones most of the people in this thread have.
The reason why I do this is because threads like this give communism a bad reputation. (Even though [B]the Soviet Union NEVER was communist[/B], it's still often associated with communism)[/QUOTE]
So? Who cares, this thread and day exists, because lots of men, women, and children died, and we, atleast me, would like to draw a little attention to it. This is not a thread about communism, yet you try to de-rail it to be a thread about it. Stop it.
You don't make valid arguments, making posts that it was a good thing that the revolution was stopped, and the Soviet Union was not communist. :frog: This thread is not about this :colbert:
[QUOTE=ZuXer;25584691]So? Who cares, this thread and day exists, because lots of men, women, and children died, and we, atleast me, would like to draw a little attention to it. This is not a thread about communism.
You don make valid arguments, making posts that it was a good thing that the revolution was stopped, that is just trolling. :frog:[/QUOTE]
No, I'm simply breaking the bandwagon.
[QUOTE=Glorious leader;25584705]No, I'm simply breaking the bandwagon.[/QUOTE]
Oh fuck this I am not going to argue with you, it's not worth a ban.
I preferred the 1848 revolution.
I'd like to see a video game based around this.
But instead you play as a helpless Hungarian child, and you have to use stealth to survive and stay hidden.
As far as I know, there is a game about the 1848 revolution, but not about the 1956, other than some tower defense game.
Didn`t something smilair happened to Lithuania in the 60`s?
[QUOTE=ZuXer;25582998]Most pepole thinks that too, I mean it is pretty obvious, but they did interfere in Vietnam. Makes you think what if the revolution took place a few months later, would the West help?[/QUOTE]Thing is, Hungary is more directly related with the Soviet Union than Vietnam in terms of political relations and geography. Intervention in Hungary would be a far more direct threat to the Soviet Union than intervention in Vietnam ever could have been. One needs to remember that Eastern Europe at the time was seen by the Soviets as, first and foremost, the Soviet Union's buffer region against the West; prompted into being mainly by the mass destruction wreaked against it by Nazi Germany. By comparison of importance, the Soviet Union couldn't give a shit about Vietnam.
If the revolution had been stronger and lasted longer, it's possible the West may have aided them with weapons and other equipment, but direct military intervention would have been out of the question, even though this was before and ICBMs were the main form of nuclear weapons delivery, and therefore before MAD. (before the start of the 60s nuclear-carrying bombers were the main form of delivery)
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