Most of us think our civilization just goes back to 4000 b.c and that the ancient sumerians were the very first to be a civilization.
but now we discover more and more ancient structures which date back to the last ice age (10.000 years ago)
but at that time we were just simpel primitive people right? hunter gatherers
[video=youtube;_qOce0tBwkM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qOce0tBwkM&feature=related[/video]
Gobleki tepe or oldest known tempel in the world dates back to 11.000 bc
[video=youtube;VBs3Jn2whfM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBs3Jn2whfM[/video]
Yonaguni massive underwater structure build before the melting of the last ice age.
( dont mind the crazy alienconspiracy people in this video)
[video=youtube;zeDMSXOhDbY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeDMSXOhDbY&feature=related[/video]
Ancient flooded city of dwaraka ( india) another flooded city which was build before the melt down
So what are your thoughts about the history of mankind?
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It was a slow gradual procession from hunter gathers to farmers, who began to rely on agriculture as opposed to hunting more over time.
As farming villages eventually grew, organisation was required to keep them running, and some also had the ability to do crafts other than farming for a living. When trade rose and towns began to appear with well built houses, civilisation pretty much appeared.
There is evidence of neolithic towns and the such from the end of the Ice Age onwards like this, but nothing on the scale of organised states with writing, bearucracies and militaries until they rose in Egypt or Mesopotamia for example around about 5000 years ago.
Even as recent as say 1000 BC, you would have people living in iron age civilisations whilst in parts of Northern Europe you still had hunter gathers (Though they were dissappearing.)
I would argue that it depends on how you define civilisation, if you define it in terms of "low density agriculture providing resources for high density population", then you could argue that civilisation began virtually straight after humans discovered agriculture.
It was about 50,000 years ago when humans as we know them evolved.
Using our heightened brainy stuffs we learned how to farm, how to tame and tend to animals for food and building.
As many people know, technology be-gets technology and the more we learned the faster we discovered the next thing.
the exact time humans became a proper civilisation is not quite known but the big question is. What counts as civilised humanity?
Do we count the time when man first built a home?
Was it when they learned writing?
Was it after the first system of government was established?
Who knows? The funny thing is, we haven't been here for very long and we already rule the roost. in less than 20,000 years we went from mud huts to fucking space!
Who knows where we started? but where will we end up is what I wanna know.
Well, depends on the definition of Civilization.
I think that the first Hunter-Gatherers where the first civilization, but that the Sumerians, for absence of an older one, were the first real modern-like civilization.
I remember reading that in order to have a civilization, people must have:
At least 1 city,
A system of writing,
and public works projects.
The ancient Sumerians, as far as I know, are the earliest people to have all of these things that archaeologists know of.
Will Durant says the first form of culture is agriculture, so whenever we can trace that back to is the beginning of human civilization
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