• AP: Israel's Gaza blockade impoverishes residents
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[URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/SIG=11f589428;_ylt=AjztF1bJ2AImzmD5EHIw6gcUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBzc2k0M2xoBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1wcnZkbGluawRzbGsDYXA-/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ap.org%2Ftermsandconditions"] [IMG]http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/ap_logo_106.png[/IMG] [/URL] [IMG]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100528/capt.431d22b0f7c2423ab3407ed030341bb4-431d22b0f7c2423ab3407ed030341bb4-0.jpg?x=400&y=234&q=85&sig=VAfUcxD8k6yOoGW4HVO4CA--[/IMG] [I]Palestinians stand in a supermarket aisle in Gaza City, Friday, May 28, 2010. Over the past three years Israel has determined down to the tiniest detail what gets into the Gaza Strip and to its population of 1.5 million. Secret guidelines are used to differentiate between humanitarian necessities and nonessential luxuries, and Palestinians are often baffled by what is let is and what is barred[/I] [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100528/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_baffling_blockade#"]Source[/URL] [quote=Associated Press][B]GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip[/B] – [highlight]Military bureaucrats enforcing Israel's blockade of Gaza allow frozen salmon filet, facial scrub and low-fat yogurt into the Hamas-ruled territory. Cilantro and instant coffee are another matter — they are banned as luxury items.[/highlight] Over the past three years, Israel has determined down to the tiniest detail what gets into the Gaza Strip and to its population of 1.5 million, using secret guidelines to differentiate between humanitarian necessities and nonessential luxuries in its blockade meant to squeeze the Islamic militant group Hamas. [B]The results are often baffling.[/B] "Frozen salmon — we never had it before the blockade," said perplexed salesman Abed Nasser, examining a frozen chunk of fish. Critics have long maintained that Israel's blockade, imposed after Hamas' violent takeover of Gaza in 2007, has not just been confusing, but counterproductive. It has come under renewed scrutiny this week as hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists sail a flotilla to Gaza loaded with thousands of tons of goods. Israeli Col. Moshe Levy, a senior military official dealing with Gaza, called the flotilla a "provocation" and said all necessary humanitarian aid already reaches Gaza. Israeli officials say they will stop the flotilla by hauling the ships to an Israeli port if they don't turn back. Critics say the blockade has failed to dislodge Hamas and has hurt Gaza's poor and blocked reconstruction after Israel's devastating three-week military offensive in the winter of 2008-2009. [B]A Palestinian industry report says the blockade has wiped out over 100,000 jobs in Gaza by banning raw materials and stifling trade.[/B] With small exceptions for international aid projects, raw goods vital for trade and construction are banned. A biscuit factory cannot import margarine, and a tomato paste factory cannot bring in empty cans. While fruits, vegetables and frozen meats are let in, fresh meat, vinegar and jam, are not, said Sari Bashi of the Israeli rights group Gisha. [B]"There are enough quantities of basic food items in Gaza.[/B] But because there is a ban on raw materials needed for production and a ban on exporting finished products, people don't have enough money to buy things," she said. "That's why 80 percent of Gaza residents are dependent on international assistance." [B]Meanwhile, tunnels built under the Gaza-Egypt border haul in scarce goods at inflated prices, enriching smugglers and Hamas, which taxes the trade. Gaza markets are filled with smuggled products like chocolate sauce and shiny children's shoes that most residents cannot afford. [/B] Hamas officials have used smuggled cement to rebuild the notorious Ansar prison where they detain their rivals, and are currently building a shopping center. But three years after the blockade, Israel is only now shipping in the building materials the U.N. needs to construct 151 apartments for some of Gaza's poorest residents. "Gaza is being reconstructed — it's just that the U.N. is not doing any of the reconstruction," said U.N. spokesman Chris Gunness. He said the U.N. still had not been given permission to build another 450 apartments in the same project, nor to start rebuilding the 2,400 homes that were destroyed during the war. Israel has bristled at criticism, insisting there are no shortages of food or other essential goods. On Wednesday, Israel's Government Press Office issued a news release sarcastically encouraging people to visit one of Gaza's few upscale restaurants, Roots Club, which uses a mixture of smuggled and legally imported goods for its menu. "We have been told the beef stroganoff and cream of spinach soup are highly recommended," it said, attaching a menu. The press office's director, Daniel Seaman, said he issued the release to counter "propaganda" about a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. [B]Gaza's tiny elite and foreigners are well served by the handful of restaurants like Roots, where a meal costs more than a typical Gazan's daily wage. But such places are out of reach for virtually all of Gaza's residents, who overwhelmingly rely on U.N.-donated food aid.[/B] Israel says the blockade aims to dry up Hamas' homegrown weapons industry by keeping out steel that can be forged into rockets and fertilizer that can be turned into explosives. Officials say the blockade also constrains Hamas' ability to rule and pressures it to release Sgt. Gilad Schalit, an Israeli soldier held captive for four years. With Egypt destroying some tunnels and restricting the inflow of cash, Hamas has struggled to pay the salaries of its 32,000 civil servants and security forces in recent months. But Hamas remains firmly in power, and residents are left uncertain about what Israel will allow in at any given time. Israeli refuses to say what it bans or permits. The government said revealing that information would harm Israel's security and foreign relations, in response to a court challenge by the rights group Gisha in May. Maj. Guy Inbar, an Israeli military official, said Israel bans "luxury" food items because they "will not be consumed by the public — but only by the rich and corrupt Hamas leaders." The luxuries include goods considered staples in Gaza, like honey, instant coffee and spices, according to Bashi and Palestinian liaison official Raed Fattouh. Not included are the frozen seafood or low-fat yogurt purchased by Gaza's wealthy few at the al-Rimal supermarket, or facial scrubs and skin-whitening sunscreen at a nearby upmarket pharmacy — all from Israel. Seafood comes as frozen meat, skin creams as feminine hygiene products and diet yogurt comes as dairy, categories permitted by Israel. Some items have now been allowed to enter after being banned for years, like clothing, shoes and tea, providing the surreal sight of gleaming, expensive boxes of Israeli-imported caffeine-free blueberry tea sold alongside knocked-around boxes of tunnel-smuggled black tea. "Sometimes we ask (the Israelis) why some things are banned," Fattouh said. "'Release Schalit and make Hamas step down and then we'll lift the blockade,'" he said, quoting Israeli officials. "But there's no problem if you want to have a salmon dinner."[/quote] This is sad, and is absolutely unjustifiable.
In before BurnEmDown posts something justifying the blockade
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You know, while you do have a point Starpluck, I don't like the cut of your jib. You seem more focused on Israel than any sort of actual humanitarian interest. I mean, I suppose I could see it being more relevant to you personally, but this practically all you ever fucking talk about. And I also don't like this apocalyptic "the end of the zionist regime" shit. You realize that Israel can't be destroyed, as that would result in the deaths of thousands more innocent people? And it's not like Israel is the only bad bunch of fuckers in the middle east, almost every, if not every country there is. Heaving all this angst on Israel alone doesn't rub me the right way.
It's because no other country manages to cause the others this much suffering deliberately. If Israel would lift the blockade, the security threat to them wouldn't increase by some immense amount, and the people living in Gaza would be pleased and maybe even fed.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22212781]You know, while you do have a point Starpluck, I don't like the cut of your jib. You seem more focused on Israel than any sort of actual humanitarian interest. I mean, I suppose I could see it being more relevant to you personally, but this practically all you ever fucking talk about. And I also don't like this apocalyptic "the end of the zionist regime" shit. You realize that Israel can't be destroyed, as that would result in the deaths of thousands more innocent people? And it's not like Israel is the only bad bunch of fuckers in the middle east, almost every, if not every country there is. Heaving all this angst on Israel alone doesn't rub me the right way.[/QUOTE] Obviously Israel cannot be destroyed, true most countries are fucked up, but Israel is the only country that gets away with it, then gets funded by my tax payer money, and to the contrary, Israel is the minority of my news threads. [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/search.php?searchid=2819604[/URL] On that page it says I created 89 news threads, However only 15 of those threads are related to Israel, Hamas or even Hezbollah. 15 out of 89 news threads is most definitely a minority.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;22212810]It's because no other country manages to cause the others this much suffering deliberately. If Israel would lift the blockade, the security threat to them wouldn't increase by some immense amount, and the people living in Gaza would be pleased and maybe even fed.[/QUOTE] Yes, true, Israel is run by a bunch of bastards. I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is that by focusing solely on the faults of "the Zionist regime" you're doing nothing but stoking racial hatred. This isn't some Jewish conspiracy, this is another dick nation doing dick things to people for dick all reason. And there's a lot of that going on in the middle east. But no, instead of focusing on, "Hey, let's try and clean up the foot thick layer of shit that covers everything here", it's always "death to the zionists!" That's not a position I can support. [editline]01:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;22212911]Obviously Israel cannot be destroyed, and to the contrary, Israel is the minority of my news threads. [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/search.php?searchid=2819604[/URL] On that page it says I created 89 news threads, However only 15 of those threads are related to Israel, Hamas or even Hezbollah. 15 out of 89 news threads is most definitely a minority.[/QUOTE] Alright, I can accept that. It's just when you post shit like [IMG]http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5635/73869055.png[/IMG], it makes it hard to be on your side.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22212918]Yes, true, Israel is run by a bunch of bastards. I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is that by focusing solely on the faults of "the Zionist regime" you're doing nothing but stoking racial hatred. This isn't some Jewish conspiracy, this is another dick nation doing dick things to people for dick all reason. And there's a lot of that going on in the middle east. But no, instead of focusing on, "Hey, let's try and clean up the foot thick layer of shit that covers everything here", it's always "death to the zionists!" That's not a position I can support. [editline]01:31PM[/editline] Alright, I can accept that. It's just when you post shit like [IMG]http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5635/73869055.png[/IMG], it makes it hard to be on your side.[/QUOTE] That comment didn't seem to imply "Death to Zionists" but seemed to be subtly saying Israel will collapse(?) or lose a bunch of support since everything is finally becoming exposed, I think.
All though Zionism is a Jewish nationalist political movement, not all Zionists are Jewish, and not all Jews are Zionist. Hating Israel and Zionism isn't racist.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;22212995]All though Zionism is a Jewish nationalist political movement, not all Zionists are Jewish, and not all Jews are Zionist. Hating Israel and Zionism isn't racist.[/QUOTE] I met more Jews who are against Zionism. I really hate it though when Zionists say anti-Zionism is the same thing as Antisemitism. And then they call Jews who are against Zionism 'Self-hating Jews'. I can't accept that.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213012]I met more Jews who are against anti-Zionism. I really hate it though when Zionists say anti-Zionism is the same thing as Antisemitism.[/QUOTE] I live right beside a huge jewish neighbourhood. There are "help israel signs" everywhere. Literally everywhere, you can't drive 1 block without seeing at least 2.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22212982]That comment didn't seem to imply "Death to Zionists" but seemed to be subtly saying Israel will collapse(?) or lose a bunch of support since everything is finally becoming exposed, I think.[/QUOTE] When you say, "the evil racist zionist regime is soon coming to an end", what do you think that implies? I still dislike the term zionist. While it may in many cases be an accurate word, it seems like a way to dredge up hate against the Jews. That's what bugs me, I don't want to in any way say that Jewish people are somehow guilty for the actions of the Israeli government. I think the terms that are being used are being used more loosely than I'd like.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22213051]When you say, "the evil racist zionist regime is soon coming to an end", what do you think that implies? [/QUOTE] I never said that. [quote] I still dislike the term zionist. While it may in many cases be an accurate word, it seems like a way to dredge up hate against the Jews. That's what bugs me, I don't want to in any way say that Jewish people are somehow guilty for the actions of the Israeli government. I think the terms that are being used are being used more loosely than I'd like.[/quote]Zionism has almost really nothing to do with Jews, like my aforementioned post, I've me more Jews in my life then Zionists. They hate Zionism for many reasons, its usually because its racist ideology, and Zionism creates antisemitism. [release][B]1. IS IT TRUE[/B] that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily. [B]2. IS IT TRUE[/B] that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti. [B]3. IS IT TRUE[/B] that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid [B]4. IS IT TRUE[/B] that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber. [B]5. IS IT TRUE[/B] that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved. [B]6. IS IT TRUE[/B] that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions). [B]7. IS IT TRUE[/B] that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. [B]8. IS IT TRUE[/B] that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!" [B]9. IS IT TRUE[/B] that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed. [B]10. IS IT TRUE[/B] that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe". There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.[/release] The questions were by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L Dean of Nitra Yeshiva. [URL]http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/weissmandl.cfm[/URL]
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213012]I met more Jews who are against Zionism. I really hate it though when Zionists say anti-Zionism is the same thing as Antisemitism. And then they call Jews who are against Zionism 'Self-hating Jews'. I can't accept that.[/QUOTE] Agreed, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I dislike the term Zionism being used when describing the actions of the Israeli government. This is a political situation, not a religious one. When someone says the Israeli government is a "racist Zionist regime", it sounds to me like trying to pass off the reason for their dickery as something to do with them being Jewish. Which bothers me, because that very thing has happened multiple times in the past, and I refuse to be a part of that kind of thinking.
Truer words eh? [quote]The Israeli zionist regime is the only racist regime left on earth[/quote]Good start, quick jab at Israel being backwards. Disregarding Zimbabwe, South Africa, Cambodia, most Arab states being far worse off. Also making arbitrary judgements on something being racist. [quote]but is becoming so paranoid that it is in the early stages of self destruct[/quote]Well paranoia within ranks can result in sovietesque colapse but Israel trusts its own and is chugging along just fine. The only paranoia is being cautious around people who might blow themsleves up, reminds me of the US Marines being very cautious with the Japanese in WW2. [quote]Their lies that they used for the west as part of their propaganda machine is fast becoming ludicrous and the funny part is that they themselves are starting to believe their lies.[/quote] Alright, that's a bit of giberish. Propaganda machine, lies to the west, believing their own shit, fast becoming ludicrous, "it's funny", all just a bunch of rubbish chucked together to look impressive and make it seem like you know what you are talking about. [quote]As the west starts to question these lies, the Zionists are starting to believe them. Go figure.[/quote] Aren't you a funny one. "The west is questioning their lies, why aren't you?" Israel knows what they are doing, the west has only waned support among bleeding heart liberals who want a humanitarian cause to feel special about and you are just a douchebag. [quote]This will undoubtably bring more attention to this inhumane blockade on the forefront on world news.[/quote]Yeah, that's pretty much your plan. Bring as much attention to your own struggle regardless of what the scenario actually is. If people see enough destroyed buildings and crying people, they will believe anyone. [quote]They fail to realise that even their propaganda machine cannot stand up to the exposure of the internet.[/quote]Oh right, the resistance uses the net now. This is such a cliche it's hard to imagine someone would actually believe it. [quote]Once you start fighting a losing battle, you're history. Their arrogance and ignorance for the matter is the beginning of their end. Ignorance is no excuse for losing.[/quote]What is that, you're rallying the troops now? Making rich idiots with no sense of purpose think they can make a difference in the world and help a poor people? Sounds like a plan. [quote]You can hide the truth for some time, but time cannot erase the truth. The truth will come forth and expose the perpetrators when they least expect it.[/quote]Ok, this is getting out of hand. What truth are you talking about? Get the perpetrators? Are you just dreaming or do you think something will be exposed and Israel will cease to exist? Oops, I just realised it was a little too easy to attack this, might seem like a semi-strawman argument. Also sorry for refering to them in the second person, it's not aimed at starpluck, just the author of it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22213127]Agreed, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I dislike the term Zionism being used when describing the actions of the Israeli government. This is a political situation, not a religious one. When someone says the Israeli government is a "racist Zionist regime", it sounds to me like trying to pass off the reason for their dickery as something to do with them being Jewish. Which bothers me, because that very thing has happened multiple times in the past, and I refuse to be a part of that kind of thinking.[/QUOTE] A lot of Jews don't even consider Zionism as part of their beliefs, Zionism is much more political then religious. (See my edited post)
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213105]I never said that. Zionism has almost really nothing to do with Jews, like my aforementioned post, I've me more Jews in my life then Zionists. They hate Zionism for many reasons, its usually because its racist ideology, and Zionism creates antisemitism.[/QUOTE] I wasn't talking about what you said, I was talking about what the quote you supported said. It's not about the reality of the situation, it's about what people are using the situation to manipulate into thinking. I'm perfectly aware that Zionists and Jews aren't the same people, however the Middle East isn't the most informed audience. [editline]01:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;22213162]A lot of Jews don't even consider Zionism as part of their beliefs, Zionism is much more political then religious. (See my edited post)[/QUOTE] Remember, this is about politics. How you say what you say is more important than the text book definition of what you're saying.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22213175]I wasn't talking about what you said, I was talking about what the quote you supported said. It's not about the reality of the situation, it's about what people are using the situation to manipulate into thinking. I'm perfectly aware that Zionists and Jews aren't the same people, however the Middle East isn't the most informed audience.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately that's true. Many Middle Easterners typically generalize all Jews as Zionists; I doubt they have ever met a Jew. Statements like [URL="http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/visitorcomments/comment_details.cfm?ItemNo=1285"]these[/URL] create a little hope inside that they'll soon realize that they shouldn't be generalized. [quote] Remember, this is about politics. How you say what you say is more important than the text book definition of what you're saying.[/quote]Are you saying (modern) Zionism is a religious movement?
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213261]Unfortunately that's true. Many Middle Easterners typically generalize all Jews as Zionists; I doubt they have ever met a Jew. Statements like [URL="http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/visitorcomments/comment_details.cfm?ItemNo=1285"]these[/URL] create a little hope inside that they'll soon realize that they shouldn't be generalized. Are you saying (modern) Zionism is a religious movement?[/QUOTE] Well yes, that's what I'm talking about. It's important to be clear on this stuff. No, I'm saying the term "Zionism" is used in reference to Jewish people as a whole, and in using it you can come off as supporting the kind of vile scum that are just as bad as the Israeli government. It's a delicate issue.
Ok, that Jews against Zionism site is bullshit. The only proof that those things happened is that one guy accused them of it because he remembered a few letters, all while he was trying to get money out of them. Also that link you just posted is still bullshit. It's basicly the "I have a black friend so I'm not racist" trope with Israel.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22213341]Well yes, that's what I'm talking about. It's important to be clear on this stuff. No, I'm saying the term "Zionism" is used in reference to Jewish people as a whole, and in using it you can come off as supporting the kind of vile scum that are just as bad as the Israeli government. It's a delicate issue.[/QUOTE] No, Zionism is not really used in reference to the Jewish people, especially today.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Definition[/url] Short paragraph, easy read, lots of goodies.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213456]No, Zionism is not really used in reference to the Jewish people, especially today.[/QUOTE] You just said it was. [QUOTE=starpluck;22213261]Unfortunately that's true. Many Middle Easterners typically generalize all Jews as Zionists; I doubt they have ever met a Jew.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22213604]You just said it was.[/QUOTE] That's usually due to ignorance. What I meant, is that modern day Zionism has almost nothing to do with Judaism at all.
Zionism is still VERY closely related to Judaism. Most jews support the existance of Israel, just disagree with a lot of their actions or that they should be a Jewish state. The ones who do want the removal of Israel are disproportionately given publicity because it looks good if even the jews hate Israel.
Source? Can I see some polls or something?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22213807]Zionism is still VERY closely related to Judaism. Most jews support the existance of Israel, just disagree with a lot of their actions or that they should be a Jewish state. The ones who do want the removal of Israel are disproportionately given publicity because it looks good if even the jews hate Israel.[/QUOTE] Besides the moderate Jew that are against Israel, religious Jews are against Israel since, 'only the messiah can create Israel'. The U.N isn't a messiah.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22213862]Besides the moderate Jew that are against Israel, religious Jews are against Israel since, 'only the messiah can create Israel'. The U.N isn't a messiah.[/QUOTE] That doesn't really make sense so I'm guessing it only applies to religious fanatics who just want some justification for their views. Normal Jews aren't really concerned about the religious reasoning for it, it's a state of their own so wanting it destroyed is a bit illogical.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22213941]That doesn't really make sense so I'm guessing it only applies to religious fanatics who just want some justification for their views. Normal Jews aren't really concerned about the religious reasoning for it, it's a state of their own so wanting it destroyed is a bit illogical.[/QUOTE] I doubt any of them wants Israel destroyed, that's a bit too far.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;22212810]It's because no other country manages to cause the others this much suffering deliberately. If Israel would lift the blockade, the security threat to them wouldn't increase by some immense amount, and the people living in Gaza would be pleased and maybe even fed.[/QUOTE] Because Hamas has a long history of planting flowers and launching kitty cats at Israel. The strip is a country. Run by a terrorist organization that has spent its entire existence trying to destroy Israel. Why the HELL would Israel let them be for even a second? It's not like Hamas is only sorta maybe a terrorist group. CANADA calls them terrorists. Right along with The United States, The European Union, and Japan. It's a country RUN BY AN EXTREMIST GROUP. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ISRAEL TO DO? It isn't that I want people to necessarily agree with the actions taken by Israel, but it would be nice if you would take a tiny second to look at this from the other side of the fence from a political standpoint. Israel doesn't have a lot of happy options.
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