I have thought out certain theories regarding people being frozen.
Now, when someone is frozen, their heart seizes to beat, their blood no longer travels through the veins and all other internal body functions that normally are running at a hundred percent, stop.
They're not ruined nor damaged in any way, they just stop.
[img]http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/DCBW/FrozenFaceJeffClose-BW.jpg[/img]
Now the person whom is frozen would be defined as not alive, better known as dead.
Because it can no longer reply to any actions what so ever, and this is because its frozen.
Some would say frozen to death, but no - the person is simply frozen.
What we do wrong, is that we unfreeze people to death. Well, some people who are frozen don't really ever get the chance to survive.
Perhaps they are located at rather unfitting spot, or maybe they're carrying a disease that can take on greater colds and survive longer than other organisms in the body.
What we need to do, is to find a proper method of unfreezing someone who is deeply frozen.
I haven't really given that part so much thought, so I figured maybe you had some ingenious theories.
The best way would most likely be to lower the frozen person into some hot liquid, and eventually using defibrillators to restart the body.
[img]http://www.coppschool.lancsngfl.ac.uk/Classwork/images/jelly.jpg[/img]
[i]I guess a shitload of hot jelly would do the trick.[/i]
Is this plausible, am I a genius and how does Carlos Mencia still get to do stand-up ? Discuss..
The cold does irreversible tissue damage over time, preventing them from being revived.
Try putting a grape in the freezer for a few days, then thawing it out. Note the difference.
[quote]The best way would most likely be to lower the frozen person into some hot liquid, and eventually using defibrillators to restart the body[/quote]
You never do this. The person can get burned and go into shock which can worsen the situation.
[QUOTE=ambershee;16134042]The cold does irreversible tissue damage over time, preventing them from being revived.
Try putting a grape in the freezer for a few days, then thawing it out. Note the difference.[/QUOTE]
This, unless you're referring to people being frozen instantly, but I don't think that's technically been done yet.
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"Hey guys listen to my dumbshit theory based on my grade 6 level of science education! I'm a fucking genius why hasn't anyone thought of it before!!!"
When water freezes, it forms microcrystals. These are generally very sharp and pointy, and water also expands when it freezes. So, what happens to all our cells? They pop. The ice causes irreversible damage to tissue, destroying cells. Also, leaving aside bodily death, what do you think happens to the mind? It just continues going? The electrical currents and chemical reactions would shut down completely, and thinking/memory relies on ACTIVE electrochemical reactions. Take away the electrochemistry, and you've got a wiped disk. Brain death.
So yes, freezing to death does happen.
It's the freezing process that does the damage; water expands as it freezes so it basically makes cells filled with water burst.
fffffffffff above poster posting 10 seconds before I did
The "Hot goo" theory reminds me of Austin Powers being unfrozen.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpNoaR_Nzrs[/media]
This has been thought about, and actually has a whole field of science devoted to it called cryogenics, or more specifically, cryobiology. The problem, as noted above, is that not all human tissue can recover from being exposed to subzero temperatures for very long periods of time. There are, however, some types of tissues that can be frozen and preserved, and are actively being done so today. Things such as semen, stem cells, human eggs, and underdeveloped human embryos all can be preserved.
Except they are frozen to death because the water in their cells freezes into ice crystals. These puncture the cell walls, killing them.
:science:
Hey guys if you stab someone in the gut they dont die from being stabbed they die from bleeding. - No
DUHHH
People freeze to death.
[QUOTE=Johnny Serva;16134031]Now the person whom is frozen would be defined as not alive, better known as dead.[/QUOTE]
Did you just contradict the thread title?
[QUOTE=Jallen;16134139]Hey guys if you stab someone in the gut they dont die from being stabbed they die from bleeding. - No[/QUOTE]
Guns don't kill people, blood loss and tissue damage caused by hydrostatic shock does!
OP needs to learn more biology and physics.
So what are you saying, I'm a genius ?
[QUOTE=Johnny Serva;16134161]So what are you saying, I'm a genius ?[/QUOTE]
I think that's the exact opposite of what we are saying
[QUOTE=Johnny Serva;16134161]So what are you saying, I'm a genius ?[/QUOTE]
No, we're saying your the opposite.
Ninjas :ninja:
[QUOTE=gnome;16134052]This, unless you're referring to people being frozen instantly, but I don't think that's technically been done yet.[/QUOTE]
Insert syringes filled with liquid nitrogen into your body and inject all at the same time...who's the fucking genius now?
[QUOTE=Johnny Serva;16134161]So what are you saying, I'm a genius ?[/QUOTE]
Just the opposite.
Ninja'd twice.
[QUOTE=Johnny Serva;16134161]So what are you saying, I'm a genius ?[/QUOTE]Hahaha.
No.
[QUOTE=ambershee;16134042]The cold does irreversible tissue damage over time, preventing them from being revived.
Try putting a grape in the freezer for a few days, then thawing it out. Note the difference.[/QUOTE]
If you put grapes in the freezer, take them out and eat them straight after, they will be like eating little balls of grape sorbet.
Saw it on a Jamie Oliver program.
Ice crystals form in the blood aswell I do believe, and when you unfreeze someone these travel around and rip you apart from the inside.
When people are frozen, they put warm saline into their bloodstream, and loop it through a pump/heater.
[QUOTE=alethemagicb;16134172]Insert syringes filled with liquid nitrogen into your body and inject all at the same time...who's the fucking genius now?[/QUOTE]
then the blood stops flowing to your body and your bodies cells die.
:downs:
I don't think people understand that once you freeze to death, [b]you're fucking dead[/b].
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;16134189]Ice crystals form in the blood aswell I do believe, and when you unfreeze someone these travel around and rip you apart from the inside.[/QUOTE]
If ice crystals are in your body, you are already dead.
[QUOTE=Dragon;16134065]"Hey guys listen to my dumbshit theory based on my grade 6 level of science education! I'm a fucking genius why hasn't anyone thought of it before!!!"[/QUOTE]
Why do you get away with posts like this.
Like, his idea is stupid, but really, how do you get away with shit like that.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;16134211]Why do you get away with posts like this.
Like, his idea is stupid, but really, how do you get away with shit like that.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, it's good to be king
[QUOTE=thisispain;16134200]then the blood stops flowing to your body and your bodies cells die.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
Yea fucktard it's called freezing
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