• "Simpsons"/"Family Guy" crossover under fire for rape joke
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[QUOTE]The Fox network isn't responding to suggestions that it edit its upcoming crossover episode of "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy" to remove a joke where the punch line is "your sister's being raped." It punctuates a scene in which the incorrigible Bart is instructing Stewie Griffin in the art of the prank phone call. Bart dials the owner of Moe's Tavern and asks whether there is anyone there with the last name Keybum, first name Lee. When Moe calls out to his patrons, asking for a "leaky bum," everyone gets a laugh. Stewie thinks that's cool, and asks to make his own prank call. "Hello, Moe?" he says. "Your sister's being raped." Tim Winter, president of the advocacy group Parents Television Council, said he's a longtime fan of Matt Groening, creator of "The Simpsons," and sought out the trailer when it was released. He said he found it particularly offensive in the context of stories about sexual assaults on college campuses and, most recently, talk about abusive treatment of women by some players in the National Football League. He said when rape is accepted as a punch line for a joke in entertainment, "it becomes less outrageous in real life." Katherine Hull Fliflet, spokeswoman for the Washington-based RAINN (Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network), said she did not find the line offensive. "I think the show is making it clear that rape is not funny by how they are positioning the joke," Fliflet said. "It's my hope that would be the viewers' take-away." RAINN, which says it is the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization and operates a rape hotline, works with creators in Hollywood to help them depict sexual assault realistically. The group lists actress Christina Ricci as a national spokesperson. Winter said he didn't think the subject was worth joking about, and said he was particularly concerned about its exposure to younger viewers who may be fans of "The Simpsons," but are not familiar with the "Family Guy" style of comedy. "We don't mock certain groups because we realize that it is highly insensitive and morally wrong," he said. "Why wouldn't we do the same thing about sexual assault?"[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/simpsons-family-guy-crossover-under-fire-for-rape-joke/"]CBS News[/URL] I think this is kind of ridiculous. Tim is looking at the joke in a completely different context than it's being presented. IMO, the part of the joke that mentions rape is not funny at all, but it being unfunny is what makes the rest of the joke funny. Also, Seth McFarlane has been known to mock all groups indiscriminately, no matter how "insensitive" or "morally wrong" it may be. I mean Family Guy is kind of known for some of the crude humor that it has......
[quote]it becomes less outrageous in real life.[/quote] Yes, after watching a TV show that briefly touched on the subject, viewers across the country were have reported to joked about, and even engaged in the activity, considering it was now so completely normal.
[QUOTE=TheAdmiester;46069546]Yes, after watching a TV show that briefly touched on the subject, viewers across the country were have reported to joked about, and even engaged in the activity, considering it was now so completely normal.[/QUOTE] I killed fitty men.
Pretty sure Matt Groening didn't write the episode, I think it was the family guy writers
People still watch the simpsons and family guy?
I don't see the necessity for 'rape jokes' to exist in the comedic toolbox. Surely there is a lot more other material that can be used in its stead.
Not that I think rape jokes are particularly good humour but family guy has done so many of them that I'm more shocked that there's a news article about it [QUOTE=FurrehFaux;46069578]People still watch the simpsons and family guy?[/QUOTE] Yes? McFarlane has wanted to cancel it for a long time but it's so popular that Fox keeps going "noooo life support a bit longer"
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;46069578]People still watch the simpsons and family guy?[/QUOTE] People still make these kinds of posts?
So, the joke was known for a while as it apparently was in one of the previews of the episode and its only a problem now?
I'd defend that joke if it was a funny one, but that's probably the worst rape joke I've ever heard. And I know the joke's supposed to be bad, but why'd it have to be a bad rape joke? Why not a bad joke about a less touchy subject?
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;46069578]People still watch the simpsons and family guy?[/QUOTE] I prefer transmitting the scripts via morse code myself
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;46069578]People still watch the simpsons and family guy?[/QUOTE] People watch Family Guy enough to cancel American Dad.
They're making a stink about this [I]now?[/I] I started watching American Dad from the first episode recently, I'm at season 7 now and almost every single episode has had a joke about rape or child molestation.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46069619]I'd defend that joke if it was a funny one, but that's probably the worst rape joke I've ever heard. And I know the joke's supposed to be bad, but why'd it have to be a bad rape joke? Why not a bad joke about a less touchy subject?[/QUOTE] As I said in another thread. [QUOTE=bdd458;46069499]Ok so there's some outrage from some people over a joke in the Simpsons/Family Guy crossover. Basically Bart pulls his classic bit of calling Moe and saying something like with Stewie right next to him. So Stewie goes "OOOH LET ME TRY" and calls Moe. "Hello Moe, your sister’s being raped." and then hangs up. Some idiots are saying it's a rape joke but it's not. It's a joke about how Stewie has no boundaries at all and is honestly a terrible person. Apparently right after that Bart says something along the lines of "Too far man".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46069619]I'd defend that joke if it was a funny one, but that's probably the worst rape joke I've ever heard. And I know the joke's supposed to be bad, but why'd it have to be a bad rape joke? Why not a bad joke about a less touchy subject?[/QUOTE] because family guy is garbage and depends on controversy for publicity
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;46069669]People watch Family Guy enough to cancel American Dad.[/QUOTE] American Dad Isn't getting cancelled though, Is It?
If this were a Simpsons episode written by the Simpsons writers that joke would never fly
[QUOTE=Duskin;46069685]American Dad Isn't getting cancelled though, Is It?[/QUOTE] Its being moved to TBS apparently.
It's supposed to be bad, that's the point of the joke.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;46069694]If this were a Simpsons episode written by the Simpsons writers that joke would never fly[/QUOTE] Neither would jokes from South Park. The Simpsons isn't known for making bad jokes about sensitive subjects. Family Guy, however, is known for that due to one of the characters being an all around evil sadistic person.
[QUOTE=JiggleItGood;46069721]It's supposed to be bad, that's the point of the joke.[/QUOTE] and it's not even just that's its a bad joke, it's to show how little boundaries Stewie actually has. The real joke is that Stewie is a little shit head.
[QUOTE=Duskin;46069685]American Dad Isn't getting cancelled though, Is It?[/QUOTE] My mistake, it was cancelled, then picked up by TBS for 2 seasons.
[QUOTE=Duskin;46069685]American Dad Isn't getting cancelled though, Is It?[/QUOTE] Fuck I love American Dad, it's better than Family Guy imho.
[QUOTE=bdd458;46069732]and it's not even just that's its a bad joke, it's to show how little boundaries Stewie actually has. The real joke is that Stewie is a little shit head.[/QUOTE] it's like how south park made fun of gingers it isn't funny because "lol gingers" its funny because Cartman is an [B]asshole[/B]
the same "joke" could be made with anything like "Your dad is in hospital" or something, it'd still be taking something too far without using rape as the punchline
[QUOTE=J!NX;46069802]it's like how south park made fun of gingers it isn't funny because "lol gingers" its funny because Cartman is an [B]asshole[/B][/QUOTE] But nobody seemed to understand that and we got shit like "kick a ginger day" and children with red hair and freckles being ceaselessly bullied for having no souls Satire is dangerous in the hands of people who don't understand it
[QUOTE=SteakStyles;46069712]Its being moved to TBS apparently.[/QUOTE] Just found this out, its strange I watch it quite often but I didn't know about that till the other guy posted about it.. Good that someone "saved" it, I much prefer it over Family Guy.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46069802]it's like how south park made fun of gingers it isn't funny because "lol gingers" its funny because Cartman is an [B]asshole[/B][/QUOTE] So? Cartman/Stewie being an unfunny prick is not a good joke IMO. That's what single-handedly made me stop watching South Park.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46070012]So? Cartman/Stewie being an unfunny prick is not a good joke IMO. That's what single-handedly made me stop watching South Park.[/QUOTE] Ginger spotted
There was a Family Guy episode with a cut-away joke in which Quagmire rapes Marge. (Awkward shock "humor," that's the joke.) This is pretty tame all things considered.
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